JOKER96BRAVO
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So is the entity known as God fallible because he is subject to circumstance?
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where would you get this idea?JOKER96BRAVO said:So is the entity known as God fallible because he is subject to circumstance?
Considering this, my question is still of some importance to me.eric said:Gentlemen, just an idea to consider:
We are making the assumption of that time is linear and constant. This is completely false, as PROVEN by science. Consider the idea that to God everything that has ever happened, is happening now, and will happen, does so in a single point in time, we just perceive it differently. This can explain many of the questions we ask.
JOKER96BRAVO said:It was just a question.
But let me tell you how I thought of it.
If God is all knowing and powerful than how come his plan is altered by our
personal decisions???
JOKER96BRAVO said:Still invalidates free will. He is planning for the decisions I WILL make.
It's not free will if he knows the outcome it's planned. You can't say that
right now he knew I was going to type the word "GOAT", if he did it's part
of his plan and I didn't really choose to type it did I.
JOKER96BRAVO said:So the power to make what really happens lies within your kids???
What if they change their minds?
But you have no control over the fact that they can change their mind.-=d=- said:I know they will not. It was an 'example' for you of sort of how God knows WHAT we will choose to do - he doesn't FORCE us to choose what we will do.
JOKER96BRAVO said:But you have no control over the fact that they can change their mind.
You cannot force them to do this everyday. Your knowledge of what they will
do is based on what they have done. So if you drop your briefcase at the
door to catch your daughter, and she chooses one day no to do it then you have
to change your plan huh?
JOKER96BRAVO said:It was just a question.
But let me tell you how I thought of it.
If God is all knowing and powerful than how come his plan is altered by our
personal decisions??? That makes him subject to circumstance doesnt it???
He cant be all knowing and powerful by knowing what we will choose to do
vs allowing us the free will to choose what we do. If he knows what I will choose
to do then its part a plan or its not free will. If I make the wrong decisions and I
go to hell and he knew what I would choose then that means he made me that
way, made me for hell right??? If his plan is in fact altered by my free will then he has no plan, therefore he cant be all knowing and powerful.
JOKER96BRAVO said:In the case that the power to choose my own path lies within myself,
The verdict will still make God's plan circumstantial no matter what he knows
based on the fact that I will ultimately create my life.
Therefore he can't be all powerful because he doesn't decide what
happens to me since I choose.