Lets set the record: Liberals, would you submit to Big Socialism right now??

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    I think our debates will get much better if we simply set the record on some issues. Lets start: Liberals, would you submit to the following Big Socialism in America if it were offered tomorrow:

    - ALL citizens pay will be taxed a flat rate of 60%, all business pays same rate.
    - 40% of that will go federal, 20% state, to fund government programs.
    - Reduced rent housing will be provided for all non home owners.
    - Healthcare will be paid for 100%. Submit your claim at hospital, response will ensue.
    - Government food cards will be issued for all who net <$30,000 (18K goes to tax).
    - Government school will be free to all US residents.
    - Our borders will remain open.

    So thats it libs. 60% of your money goes to gov't. But, food, house, education, healthcare is guaranteed, funded and run by gov't. The rest is up to you. Would you accept it?
     
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    Not this Liberal.

    Nope. How about a 0% tax rate?

    Nope. How about putting usurers camping out in the rigged mortgage/credit industry to trial?


    Nope. How about putting the racketeer/gangster insurance industry to trial?

    How about disregarding the whole rigged system of so-called "higher education"?
    Lots of unemployed people with degree's, and student loan debts to match.
    Isn't education oh so wonderful?

    Ahh...
    Yeah blame the guy looking for work.
    Ya don't like rich people exploiting people for slave wages? Then don't buy the products.
    Stop eating Tyson chicken. Then the "illegal" will go home.
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    Better yet, put the rich people trying to practice slavery to the trial.
    Lot easier than the "show me your papers" rah rah.
     
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    Bucs I bet that shit sells better in your trailer park than here.
     
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    I'd support a broad-based emergency aid program for the poor, but I think those who can should work. I'd support subsistence level aid only for those who are rendered unable to work because of disability or new children, and even then, with an effort to rehabilitating or sheltering them so that some work is possible.
     
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    Let's set the record straight. Have you Conservatives all purchased your jackboots and practiced sieg hieling enough already?

    Have you stopped beating your wife yet?:lol:
     
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    You seem to labored under the misconception that the lack of taxes and social programs are requirements for a highly entrepreneurial capitalist system. This is not true. Fortune Small Business did a study to determine the most entrepreneurial nations. Looking at the 10 most entrepreneurial nations, all nations accept one had a government support healthcare system. Most nations had higher taxes than the US. All have programs similar to Social Security.

    Oh, and the US is rated the 2nd most entrepreneurial nation on earth.

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    No.

    But what you're describing is in no way "Big Socialism". Further proving that you guys don't even know what these words mean.

    I'm NOT a socialist, by the way.
     
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    Most countries that have social programs, like Germany and England do not tax all the citizens a.t the same rate. I would be for taxing the top 1% more, along with corporations. I would also be for regulating our corporations quite a bit more, and fining them if they outsource. And if they want to make all their products outside of the US tax them even more, or treat the goods as if they are a foreign product.
    I am all for going back to Pre Reagan tax rates.
     
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    That was three years ago (and alot has economically changed). Where have we fallen to, since?
     
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    Hey Dreamweaver:

    "There is little evidence that the residents of some nations are more entrepreneurial than those from other countries."

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