Lets Jews aka Israelis take care of themselves.

[Picaro]

The claim anyone in the Mideast or any Muslim wants to harm Jews is easily disproven and an obvious lie.
Israel has only existed since 1948, and before then, for almost 2000 years, Jews in the Mideast lived safely and happily under Muslim rule.
That is because the Quran forbids harming Jews.
The Quran calls Jews "Brothers of the Book", meaning they share the same Old Testament with Muslims.
And there are passages specifically prohibiting harming Jews over religious differences.

All the problems that Jews have in the Mideast have been created by Zionists, and it is entirely Israel that is at fault.
No one else could be at fault because everything was fine before the European Zionist invasion in the 1930s.

Lol more quackery. Nobody in the ME has ever lived 'safely and happily', except under Greek, Turkish, or Persian rulers. You clearly have never read any history that involves Planet Earth.

 

[Rambunctious]

If you say you can't live next to or with people of a different faith you are blasted by everyone unless the people you can't abide are Israeli.....

Maybe one day you Jew hater Muslim lovers will explain that one to me.....
It wasn't Jews that flew jets into our buildings......

You are not very bright.
Jews in the Mideast were under Muslim rule for centuries, so then clearly Muslims never had any problem with Jews.
In fact, it was ONLY Christians who ever had any problem with Jews and tried to murder them.
But you seem to be totally ignoring that by the US supplying all the B-17 bombers, P-51 Mustangs, M-4 Shermans, etc., to the Zionists in 1948, that the US became responsible for all the massacres committed by Zionists, and DESERVED having jets flown into buildings.
The US created Israel totally out of thin air in 1948, through the UN, and there is no legal basis for doing that.
Israel should not exist.
No theocracy should ever exist as long as any other religion exists within that country.
It has to be inherently discriminatory, and Israel is about the worst I have ever seen.

The UN voted to place Jews in Israel....can we start from there?...being under Muslim rule is not a party pal....read your own words....

 

[Rigby5]

Unfortunately, most Americans have been so brain washed by the media that they think Israel is our de facto 51st state which we are obligated to defend and economically support, as though it was written into the Constitution. ...

Yeah .........I'm brainwashed........a freaking maniac................yup yup.

If the middle east tries to wipe them off the face of the earth ........as many have vowed over there.........WELL................I think we should make them wish they weren't born..............

So.......yup...........attack Israel and we will pound your asses like tent stakes........

appreciate the post........clearing it up where I stand.

You do realize that 'wipe off the map' statement was made by ONE person (the Iranian political leader) many years ago AND he was just quoting someone else AND the entire phrase was misunderstood?

Besides, even if he meant it...Iran would not dare.

Israel has hundreds of nuclear warheads and dozens of Jericho IRBM's that could completely obliterate Iran if it chose to do so. If Iran launched nukes at Israel, Iran would quickly be 'wiped off the map'...and they know it.

So they will never do it.

MAD works.


Plus, Israel has the most powerful military of any Middle Eastern country. The only two that are close - Egypt and Saudi Arabia - are on good terms with Israel right now (especially the latter).

Israel needs ZERO help from America.

We helped them get that way............and Turkey has a better military than Saudi Arabia.........Egypt has a good one........with American weapons......

Turkey is turning to the Russians........and made a deal with Iran.........Qatar joined them for oil sales to Europe.........Amazing that Sunni's and Shia's doing deals these days........unheard of before.

Any reading of Arab history for, oh, say, the last 4,000 years, will point out that their treaties and agreements aren't worth the match it takes to burn them. They're incapable of honest dealing, at any level, with anybody, even within their own tribes. If it wenre't for Europeans, they wouldn't even have countries of their own today, the would be under either Turkey's or Russia's or IRan's thumbs, i.e non-Arab satellites.

Nonsense, name one treaty any Arab country has ever violated?
In contrast, the US is scum.
We negotiated Saddam's forces to retreat from Kuwait under a white flag, and then massacred them from the air, without warning.

And by the way, Turkey, Russia, and Iran are not Arab.
That is why they are the problems.
They invade and take over because they are not Arab and have no concern for the natives.

 

[Rambunctious]

Unfortunately, most Americans have been so brain washed by the media that they think Israel is our de facto 51st state which we are obligated to defend and economically support, as though it was written into the Constitution. ...

Yeah .........I'm brainwashed........a freaking maniac................yup yup.

If the middle east tries to wipe them off the face of the earth ........as many have vowed over there.........WELL................I think we should make them wish they weren't born..............

So.......yup...........attack Israel and we will pound your asses like tent stakes........

appreciate the post........clearing it up where I stand.

You do realize that 'wipe off the map' statement was made by ONE person (the Iranian political leader) many years ago AND he was just quoting someone else AND the entire phrase was misunderstood?

Besides, even if he meant it...Iran would not dare.

Israel has hundreds of nuclear warheads and dozens of Jericho IRBM's that could completely obliterate Iran if it chose to do so. If Iran launched nukes at Israel, Iran would quickly be 'wiped off the map'...and they know it.

So they will never do it.

MAD works.


Plus, Israel has the most powerful military of any Middle Eastern country. The only two that are close - Egypt and Saudi Arabia - are on good terms with Israel right now (especially the latter).

Israel needs ZERO help from America.

We helped them get that way............and Turkey has a better military than Saudi Arabia.........Egypt has a good one........with American weapons......

Turkey is turning to the Russians........and made a deal with Iran.........Qatar joined them for oil sales to Europe.........Amazing that Sunni's and Shia's doing deals these days........unheard of before.

Any reading of Arab history for, oh, say, the last 4,000 years, will point out that their treaties and agreements aren't worth the match it takes to burn them. They're incapable of honest dealing, at any level, with anybody, even within their own tribes. If it wenre't for Europeans, they wouldn't even have countries of their own today, the would be under either Turkey's or Russia's or IRan's thumbs, i.e non-Arab satellites.

Nonsense, name one treaty any Arab country has ever violated?
In contrast, the US is scum.
We negotiated Saddam's forces to retreat from Kuwait under a white flag, and then massacred them from the air, without warning.

And by the way, Turkey, Russia, and Iran are not Arab.
That is why they are the problems.
They invade and take over because they are not Arab and have no concern for the natives.

Where do you get this nonsense?...

 

[McRocket]

'lie
1
[lahy]
noun
a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.'

the definition of lying

Prove that Penelope made a false statement with deliberate intent to deceive?

Everyone that has land around Israel are your enemies.

Ummm...both Egypt and Jordan have peace treaties with Israel.

Now you with Penelope can decide which one of you two is just lying and which one does it deliberately..

Obviously, reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

Hello?

Proof of lying requires you to prove intent to deceive.

And you cannot do that unless the person in question admits to the deception. Which you have not shown they have done. Thus, there is ZERO, factual proof of lying on her part on this.

Again...DUH.

You don’t know dip about Israel.

Wow...now there is a statement that is easily to verify...NOT.

So the ENTIRE sum of your intellect thought and pondered...and came up with that?!?

So noted.



Have a nice day.

And the entire sum of your perspective?
FuckTheJews.org?

You’ve ever been to Israel?

Never been (or even heard of that website - funny you have).

So I assume then that you will NEVER comment about anyplace you have never been?

Suuuuure.

But Israel is BAD!

Again with the insults to Jewish people. You are such a hypocrite on this.

One minute praise. Next minute...insult them.

You seem conflicted.

Perhaps therapy would help you.


Have a nice day.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Thats fine but do you or do you not support BDS? Simple "yes" or "no" will suffice.

I support BDS 100%.

Which is crazy

 

[McRocket]

You have no problem with a state which according to you "steal land and treat it's former citizens (the Palestinians) like virtual excrement"? Really?

The so called Palestinians have been kicked out of every Muslim nation in the region...they strapped bombs to themselves just to kill Jews....The Palestinians were exiled because they were killing people.....The Palestinians are murdering hateful people....if they change for the better the situation they are in will follow....

And where is your unbiased link that factually proves that EVERY Palestinian is a 'murdering, hateful person' (as you claim)?

I guarantee you can provide no such link.

Which means your entire statement is utter nonsense.


Though clearly, you have a MASSIVE hate on for ALL Palestinians.

You hate millions of people whom you do not even know.

Sad AND pathetic.

Now me? I hate no one.

 

[keepitreal]

Let the Israelis take care of themselves

Let the Mexicans take care of themselves

They do.

They do.

Really now?

Who went on a fucking road trip,
expecting people to provide for their trip along the way,
and clean up after them and demanded $50,000 to go home?

You trash ‘Christians’ for not acting ‘Christian’
then want to dictate who ‘Christians’ can help

Fuck off

 

[Rambunctious]

You have no problem with a state which according to you "steal land and treat it's former citizens (the Palestinians) like virtual excrement"? Really?

The so called Palestinians have been kicked out of every Muslim nation in the region...they strapped bombs to themselves just to kill Jews....The Palestinians were exiled because they were killing people.....The Palestinians are murdering hateful people....if they change for the better the situation they are in will follow....

And where is your unbiased link that factually proves that EVERY Palestinian is a 'murdering, hateful person (as you claim)?

I guarantee you can provide no such link.

Which means your entire statement is utter nonsense.

Where did I say everyone of them?....hmmmmmmmmm? many Palestinians live in Israel and work in Israel along side of Jews peaceably every day....

 

[Rigby5]

The claim anyone in the Mideast or any Muslim wants to harm Jews is easily disproven and an obvious lie.
Israel has only existed since 1948, and before then, for almost 2000 years, Jews in the Mideast lived safely and happily under Muslim rule.
That is because the Quran forbids harming Jews.
The Quran calls Jews "Brothers of the Book", meaning they share the same Old Testament with Muslims.
And there are passages specifically prohibiting harming Jews over religious differences.

All the problems that Jews have in the Mideast have been created by Zionists, and it is entirely Israel that is at fault.
No one else could be at fault because everything was fine before the European Zionist invasion in the 1930s.

Lol more quackery. Nobody in the ME has ever lived 'safely and happily', except under Greek, Turkish, or Persian rulers. You clearly have never read any history that involves Planet Earth.

That is ridiculous. The Jews were almost always used for high ranking administrative position like vezir.
Jews were appointed as state administrators so often under Arab rule, that vezir even implies they are Jewish.
Look at the Iberian Penninsula, and you will see that all the Muslim states like Grenada, were ruled and administered by Jews for the Muslim Moors. That only ended when the Christians started massacring people and starting their inquisitions, crusades, and conquistadors.
Name a single time Jews were abused by Muslims, anywhere or any time?
Never happened.
The Ottoman empire was not Arab, but it was Muslim.
Jews lived under Arab or Muslim rule since 160 AD.
They were only abused in the Mideast by Christian Crusaders.
And by the way, there was never any Greek rule in the Mideast.
The Macadonians under Alexander were not Greek, and he died young.
Persians became Muslim as well and the Ottoman.

 

[McRocket]

Let the Israelis take care of themselves

Let the Mexicans take care of themselves

They do.

They do.

Really now?

Who went on a fucking road trip,
expecting people to provide for their trip along the way,
and clean up after them and demanded $50,000 to go home?

You trash ‘Christians’ for not acting ‘Christian’
then want to dictate who ‘Christians’ can help

Fuck off

You post to the person and then tell them to fuck off.

Okaaay.

Then I assume you will not be posting to them on this again...unless you are bat shit crazy (telling someone to 'fuck off' and then instigating further discussion).

 

[Rigby5]

If you say you can't live next to or with people of a different faith you are blasted by everyone unless the people you can't abide are Israeli.....

Maybe one day you Jew hater Muslim lovers will explain that one to me.....
It wasn't Jews that flew jets into our buildings......

You are not very bright.
Jews in the Mideast were under Muslim rule for centuries, so then clearly Muslims never had any problem with Jews.
In fact, it was ONLY Christians who ever had any problem with Jews and tried to murder them.
But you seem to be totally ignoring that by the US supplying all the B-17 bombers, P-51 Mustangs, M-4 Shermans, etc., to the Zionists in 1948, that the US became responsible for all the massacres committed by Zionists, and DESERVED having jets flown into buildings.
The US created Israel totally out of thin air in 1948, through the UN, and there is no legal basis for doing that.
Israel should not exist.
No theocracy should ever exist as long as any other religion exists within that country.
It has to be inherently discriminatory, and Israel is about the worst I have ever seen.

The UN voted to place Jews in Israel....can we start from there?...being under Muslim rule is not a party pal....read your own words....

Wrong.
The UN voted to control and reduce Jewish immigration into Palestine, but the Jews illegal smuggled themselves in.
In fact the Zionists murdered Count Folke Bernadotte, the official UN moderator in Palestine.
The UN never voted in favor of Jews in Palestine, but only voted to partition Palestine into Israel and Palestine after so many Jews had gotten there illegally.
And yes, Jews did have a party under Muslim rule for over a century.
The Jews were harmed by the Romans and Christians, not Muslims.

 

[Rigby5]

Another lie from Sheri. Add to that ignorance and stupidity. Israel left Lebanon in 1984 and the Golan Heights were part of Syria who initiated the 67 War along with Egypt and Jordan

You just keep telling that same lie. The '67 war started when Israeli tanks rolled into Egypt.

Actually the 1967 war started with an Israeli sneak attack on Egyptian air bases, but close enough.

 

[admonit]

You have no problem with a state which according to you "steal land and treat it's former citizens (the Palestinians) like virtual excrement"? Really?

The so called Palestinians have been kicked out of every Muslim nation in the region...they strapped bombs to themselves just to kill Jews....The Palestinians were exiled because they were killing people.....The Palestinians are murdering hateful people....if they change for the better the situation they are in will follow....

And where is your unbiased link that factually proves that EVERY Palestinian is a 'murdering, hateful person' (as you claim)?

Where the poster used the words "EVERY Palestinian"? As you see, you even don't need to admit your lie..

 

[Picaro]

Unfortunately, most Americans have been so brain washed by the media that they think Israel is our de facto 51st state which we are obligated to defend and economically support, as though it was written into the Constitution. ...

Yeah .........I'm brainwashed........a freaking maniac................yup yup.

If the middle east tries to wipe them off the face of the earth ........as many have vowed over there.........WELL................I think we should make them wish they weren't born..............

So.......yup...........attack Israel and we will pound your asses like tent stakes........

appreciate the post........clearing it up where I stand.

You do realize that 'wipe off the map' statement was made by ONE person (the Iranian political leader) many years ago AND he was just quoting someone else AND the entire phrase was misunderstood?

Besides, even if he meant it...Iran would not dare.

Israel has hundreds of nuclear warheads and dozens of Jericho IRBM's that could completely obliterate Iran if it chose to do so. If Iran launched nukes at Israel, Iran would quickly be 'wiped off the map'...and they know it.

So they will never do it.

MAD works.


Plus, Israel has the most powerful military of any Middle Eastern country. The only two that are close - Egypt and Saudi Arabia - are on good terms with Israel right now (especially the latter).

Israel needs ZERO help from America.

We helped them get that way............and Turkey has a better military than Saudi Arabia.........Egypt has a good one........with American weapons......

Turkey is turning to the Russians........and made a deal with Iran.........Qatar joined them for oil sales to Europe.........Amazing that Sunni's and Shia's doing deals these days........unheard of before.

Any reading of Arab history for, oh, say, the last 4,000 years, will point out that their treaties and agreements aren't worth the match it takes to burn them. They're incapable of honest dealing, at any level, with anybody, even within their own tribes. If it wenre't for Europeans, they wouldn't even have countries of their own today, the would be under either Turkey's or Russia's or IRan's thumbs, i.e non-Arab satellites.

Nonsense, name one treaty any Arab country has ever violated?
In contrast, the US is scum.
We negotiated Saddam's forces to retreat from Kuwait under a white flag, and then massacred them from the air, without warning.

And by the way, Turkey, Russia, and Iran are not Arab.
That is why they are the problems.
They invade and take over because they are not Arab and have no concern for the natives.

lol here's a list of treaties they've ever kept:





... End of list.

thanks for asking.

 

[Indeependent]

Now you with Penelope can decide which one of you two is just lying and which one does it deliberately..

Obviously, reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

Hello?

Proof of lying requires you to prove intent to deceive.

And you cannot do that unless the person in question admits to the deception. Which you have not shown they have done. Thus, there is ZERO, factual proof of lying on her part on this.

Again...DUH.

You don’t know dip about Israel.

Wow...now there is a statement that is easily to verify...NOT.

So the ENTIRE sum of your intellect thought and pondered...and came up with that?!?

So noted.



Have a nice day.

And the entire sum of your perspective?
FuckTheJews.org?

You’ve ever been to Israel?
I guess you reject any vote the UN holds except for anti-Israel Resolutions by Muslims and African nations that are murdering their own citizens.

So how about those post WWII created nations that have been at war with other for decades?

But Israel is BAD!

why in the heck would one want to go to Israel??

Obviously you haven’t been there.
But you don’t even believe in your own Bible.

 

[Mudda]

Israel is always boasting what a hi tech country they are and how they lead in inventions and innovations.

While at the same time begging the U.S. and other western power for more free money and weapons to help defend themselves from the problems they create with their neighbors by attacking and bombing them on a regular basis. ....

But they’re bombing Muslims, so that’s a good thing, isn’t it?

 

[Rigby5]

You have no problem with a state which according to you "steal land and treat it's former citizens (the Palestinians) like virtual excrement"? Really?

The so called Palestinians have been kicked out of every Muslim nation in the region...they strapped bombs to themselves just to kill Jews....The Palestinians were exiled because they were killing people.....The Palestinians are murdering hateful people....if they change for the better the situation they are in will follow....

That is incredibly ignorant.
Palestinians have never moved, and are likely the oldest cultures in the entire Mideast.
They are the Canaanites, Akkadians, Urites, Amorites, Chaldeans, Phoenicians, Philistines, etc.
They never left or lived elsewhere.
They commit suicide when there is no other choice and their homes are being stolen.
Anyone would do the same.
The Palestinians were never exiled until Zionists wanted their homes, and there was no legal basis for killing them or forcing them to leave.
Israelis all deserve to die unless they give back the Palestinian homes.

 

[Indeependent]

If you say you can't live next to or with people of a different faith you are blasted by everyone unless the people you can't abide are Israeli.....

Maybe one day you Jew hater Muslim lovers will explain that one to me.....
It wasn't Jews that flew jets into our buildings......

You are not very bright.
Jews in the Mideast were under Muslim rule for centuries, so then clearly Muslims never had any problem with Jews.
In fact, it was ONLY Christians who ever had any problem with Jews and tried to murder them.
But you seem to be totally ignoring that by the US supplying all the B-17 bombers, P-51 Mustangs, M-4 Shermans, etc., to the Zionists in 1948, that the US became responsible for all the massacres committed by Zionists, and DESERVED having jets flown into buildings.
The US created Israel totally out of thin air in 1948, through the UN, and there is no legal basis for doing that.
Israel should not exist.
No theocracy should ever exist as long as any other religion exists within that country.
It has to be inherently discriminatory, and Israel is about the worst I have ever seen.

Any non-Muslim had to pay an anti-Beheading Tax.
But you already knew that.

 

[Rigby5]

BTW...I have no problem with Israel existing.

You have a big problem with the Jewish state.

But Israel is especially immoral because according to Judaism,

Another expert in Judaism.

It is not hard to be an expert in Judaism.
All you have to do is be Jewish and learn the true history that Jews are all taught.
There is not one Jew who is not taught that it is a sin to return to Jerusalem until the coming of the Messiah.