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OK, so people want to argue about South Africa. And unless you join in declaring how the whites are being randomly selected for slaughter while the government allows it, you are accused of supporting murder, rape and robbery of whites in South Africa. Now it's time people looked at the truth.
"Are protesters right on South Africa farm murder rate?
According to the best available statistics, farm murders are at their highest level since 2010-11.
South Africa's Police Service says 74 people were murdered on farms between April 2016 and March 2017, up from 58 in the previous year. '
The claim is white genocide in South Africa. But the number of those killed stated is 74, Let us continue.
"There were 19,016 murders in South Africa in 2016-17, according to the police.
According to Statistics South Africa's mid-year estimate for 2016, there were 55,908,900 people in South Africa.
That's 34 murders for every 100,000 people.
Are farmers at greater risk than this national average? "
Since so many are claiming to be all about rates:
"How many farmers?
The truth is, we don't know. We can't calculate a meaningful murder rate for farmers, because we don't know how many there are.
Do we include all 810,000 people employed in agriculture? That gives a farm murder rate of 9.1 per 100,000 - much lower than the South African average.
Or, do we restrict ourselves to the 32,375 commercial farmers counted in the country's last agricultural census in 2007?
That's what AfriForum, a group that campaigns for the interests of Afrikaners in South Africa, appears to have done.
It has estimated a farm murder rate of 156 per 100,000 that has been widely quoted in recent days."
What must be understood is this group is are AFRIKANRS. The people responsible for apartheid.
"It appears to be calculated as follows.
First, take the 50 murdered farmers counted by the TAU in 2016 (which excludes murders of family members, employees and visitors).
Then, divide by 32,000 - an estimate of the total number of farmers, based on the 2007 figure.
There are problems with this approach.
First, the data is very old, so the number of farmers may be different now.
Second, to exclude murdered family members, employees, and visitors to the farm from such an analysis misses part of the picture of what is happening on South African farms - but we don't know how many of those people there are.
Third, the 2007 census did not include small, non-commercial farms - but some of the murders counted in the figures did take place on smaller farms. By leaving them out, the murder rate comes out higher than it should."
.What has been mentioned her is that the white farmers are not the only ones getting killed.
"Can we talk about race?
This also helps explain why it's impossible to say whether white farmers are more at risk than black farmers - or more at risk than the population at large.
We simply don't know what proportion of people on South Africa's farms is white.
The closest we get is the 2016 Community Survey of agricultural households. Of the nearly 200,000 households whose agricultural activity takes place on farmland, about 54,000 have a white person at the head of the household.
The problem is, we don't know how many people are in each household or how many of the households are racially mixed.
So we don't know how many white people there are on South Africa's farms. And that means we can't work out how likely those white people are to be murdered.
In short - we have no clear idea about the murder rate on South African farms.
And because of that, the claim being made by protesters about farmers being more likely to be murdered is not supported by reliable data. "
So while people in South Africa can't accurately say if white farms are targeted, whites here are making claims about white genocide there.
Reality Check: Are protesters right on South Africa farm murders?
Why is this? Remember AfriForum?
DIRCO: AfriForum must stop sowing panic and fear
"Mabaya said there were groups and organisations in South Africa spreading false information and sparking panic, to advance their own political agendas. The International Relations department has asked them to stop.
“We call on organisations such as AfriForum that are spreading incorrect information sowing panic and fear to refrain from doing so. The South African Government has been very clear and transparent on a land reform process and the matter is now before Parliament.
“All stakeholders will be consulted and they are also encouraged to engage with Parliament. There is no reason for any Government anywhere in the world to suspect that any South African is in danger from their own democratically elected Government. That threat simply does not exist.”
DIRCO: AfriForum must stop sowing panic and fear - SA Breaking News
Searching for white genocide in South Africa
February 26, 2018 by Michael Bueckert
"The plight of white South Africans has clearly become, in Goldy’s words, “the flavor of the month” on the far-right. While it is a remarkable coincidence that these media personalities all decided to undertake the same project both independently and simultaneously, attention to this issue had been growing in alt-right circles throughout 2017, with articles appearing in Breitbart, the Rebel, and on conservative video blogs. In the image of the beleaguered Afrikaner, it appears that these online commentators — whose work is predominantly obsessed with fear-mongering attacks on Muslims and refugees — have finally found a supposedly persecuted minority they can get behind.
What has sparked the attention of the far-right in particular are the high rates of violent burglaries against white farmers in South Africa, what Afrikaners call plaasmoorde or “farm murders.” Drawing primarily on interviews with survivors of violent attacks, Southern and Hopkins have both utilized the format of short, provocative videos uploaded to YouTube to deploy a narrative that these incidents are not regular burglaries, but rather systematic and politically-motivated acts of ethnic cleansing, approved by the South African government, and deliberately ignored by the international media.
As the alt-right descends upon South Africa in search of white genocide, it is obvious that their concern-trolling for white South Africans is motivated, above all, by a domestic anti-immigration agenda. Deeply fearful of what happens when North American demographics shift and white people become a minority, what the alt-right really wants is a harrowing story about whites being “hunted to extinction” by a black majority which can be used to bolster the case for white supremacy at home.
Why white people?
In their reporting, the alt-right portrays white South Africans as facing patterns of marginalization and violence which constitute a unique threat to their very existence as a people. In a video titled “Why White People?” Southern tries to explain why she has decided to focus on whites when violent crime is a problem faced by all South Africans. White people in South Africa face “actual discrimination,” she asserts, “and not in the SJW sense” of minorities in North America (Social Justice Warrior or SJW is a pejorative and dismissive alt-right term for left-wing activist). In Nilsson’s documentary The Boer Project, South Africa’s Black Economic Empowerment program — its affirmative action policies meant to address centuries of racial segregation and oppression — is referred to as “reverse apartheid.” Multiple segments linger on “white refugee camps,” as if the vast black shanty towns and slums did not also exist."
Here is the whole thing. Searching for white genocide in South Africa
So what we see is 74 whites were murdered in a year. That does not constitute genocide. We have see that an organization representing white Afrikaners inaccurately distorted numbers to make things look like whites are victims of high amounts of violence. What we see is that South African authorities cannot find evidence supporting such claims. We see the land reforms are bound by a constitution by the South African government so the government is not turning a blind eye letting blacks target whites for murder, rape etc. We have also seen that this tale is an alt right meme that has been written about in almost every alt right media source to promote an anti immigration domestic agenda and a white supremacist agenda. These are the facts.
"Are protesters right on South Africa farm murder rate?
According to the best available statistics, farm murders are at their highest level since 2010-11.
South Africa's Police Service says 74 people were murdered on farms between April 2016 and March 2017, up from 58 in the previous year. '
The claim is white genocide in South Africa. But the number of those killed stated is 74, Let us continue.
"There were 19,016 murders in South Africa in 2016-17, according to the police.
According to Statistics South Africa's mid-year estimate for 2016, there were 55,908,900 people in South Africa.
That's 34 murders for every 100,000 people.
Are farmers at greater risk than this national average? "
Since so many are claiming to be all about rates:
"How many farmers?
The truth is, we don't know. We can't calculate a meaningful murder rate for farmers, because we don't know how many there are.
Do we include all 810,000 people employed in agriculture? That gives a farm murder rate of 9.1 per 100,000 - much lower than the South African average.
Or, do we restrict ourselves to the 32,375 commercial farmers counted in the country's last agricultural census in 2007?
That's what AfriForum, a group that campaigns for the interests of Afrikaners in South Africa, appears to have done.
It has estimated a farm murder rate of 156 per 100,000 that has been widely quoted in recent days."
What must be understood is this group is are AFRIKANRS. The people responsible for apartheid.
"It appears to be calculated as follows.
First, take the 50 murdered farmers counted by the TAU in 2016 (which excludes murders of family members, employees and visitors).
Then, divide by 32,000 - an estimate of the total number of farmers, based on the 2007 figure.
There are problems with this approach.
First, the data is very old, so the number of farmers may be different now.
Second, to exclude murdered family members, employees, and visitors to the farm from such an analysis misses part of the picture of what is happening on South African farms - but we don't know how many of those people there are.
Third, the 2007 census did not include small, non-commercial farms - but some of the murders counted in the figures did take place on smaller farms. By leaving them out, the murder rate comes out higher than it should."
.What has been mentioned her is that the white farmers are not the only ones getting killed.
"Can we talk about race?
This also helps explain why it's impossible to say whether white farmers are more at risk than black farmers - or more at risk than the population at large.
We simply don't know what proportion of people on South Africa's farms is white.
The closest we get is the 2016 Community Survey of agricultural households. Of the nearly 200,000 households whose agricultural activity takes place on farmland, about 54,000 have a white person at the head of the household.
The problem is, we don't know how many people are in each household or how many of the households are racially mixed.
So we don't know how many white people there are on South Africa's farms. And that means we can't work out how likely those white people are to be murdered.
In short - we have no clear idea about the murder rate on South African farms.
And because of that, the claim being made by protesters about farmers being more likely to be murdered is not supported by reliable data. "
So while people in South Africa can't accurately say if white farms are targeted, whites here are making claims about white genocide there.
Reality Check: Are protesters right on South Africa farm murders?
Why is this? Remember AfriForum?
DIRCO: AfriForum must stop sowing panic and fear
"Mabaya said there were groups and organisations in South Africa spreading false information and sparking panic, to advance their own political agendas. The International Relations department has asked them to stop.
“We call on organisations such as AfriForum that are spreading incorrect information sowing panic and fear to refrain from doing so. The South African Government has been very clear and transparent on a land reform process and the matter is now before Parliament.
“All stakeholders will be consulted and they are also encouraged to engage with Parliament. There is no reason for any Government anywhere in the world to suspect that any South African is in danger from their own democratically elected Government. That threat simply does not exist.”
DIRCO: AfriForum must stop sowing panic and fear - SA Breaking News
Searching for white genocide in South Africa
February 26, 2018 by Michael Bueckert
"The plight of white South Africans has clearly become, in Goldy’s words, “the flavor of the month” on the far-right. While it is a remarkable coincidence that these media personalities all decided to undertake the same project both independently and simultaneously, attention to this issue had been growing in alt-right circles throughout 2017, with articles appearing in Breitbart, the Rebel, and on conservative video blogs. In the image of the beleaguered Afrikaner, it appears that these online commentators — whose work is predominantly obsessed with fear-mongering attacks on Muslims and refugees — have finally found a supposedly persecuted minority they can get behind.
What has sparked the attention of the far-right in particular are the high rates of violent burglaries against white farmers in South Africa, what Afrikaners call plaasmoorde or “farm murders.” Drawing primarily on interviews with survivors of violent attacks, Southern and Hopkins have both utilized the format of short, provocative videos uploaded to YouTube to deploy a narrative that these incidents are not regular burglaries, but rather systematic and politically-motivated acts of ethnic cleansing, approved by the South African government, and deliberately ignored by the international media.
As the alt-right descends upon South Africa in search of white genocide, it is obvious that their concern-trolling for white South Africans is motivated, above all, by a domestic anti-immigration agenda. Deeply fearful of what happens when North American demographics shift and white people become a minority, what the alt-right really wants is a harrowing story about whites being “hunted to extinction” by a black majority which can be used to bolster the case for white supremacy at home.
Why white people?
In their reporting, the alt-right portrays white South Africans as facing patterns of marginalization and violence which constitute a unique threat to their very existence as a people. In a video titled “Why White People?” Southern tries to explain why she has decided to focus on whites when violent crime is a problem faced by all South Africans. White people in South Africa face “actual discrimination,” she asserts, “and not in the SJW sense” of minorities in North America (Social Justice Warrior or SJW is a pejorative and dismissive alt-right term for left-wing activist). In Nilsson’s documentary The Boer Project, South Africa’s Black Economic Empowerment program — its affirmative action policies meant to address centuries of racial segregation and oppression — is referred to as “reverse apartheid.” Multiple segments linger on “white refugee camps,” as if the vast black shanty towns and slums did not also exist."
Here is the whole thing. Searching for white genocide in South Africa
So what we see is 74 whites were murdered in a year. That does not constitute genocide. We have see that an organization representing white Afrikaners inaccurately distorted numbers to make things look like whites are victims of high amounts of violence. What we see is that South African authorities cannot find evidence supporting such claims. We see the land reforms are bound by a constitution by the South African government so the government is not turning a blind eye letting blacks target whites for murder, rape etc. We have also seen that this tale is an alt right meme that has been written about in almost every alt right media source to promote an anti immigration domestic agenda and a white supremacist agenda. These are the facts.
