Lesson from Jimmy Carter: Weakness invites aggression

[mudwhistle]

But at what cost? Can't think beyond just today, can you?

Sure I can. We're better off now than we were during the Iraq War. The costs are less. This isn't difficult. C'mon.

The media made sure you felt that way.

Now everything is Sunshine and Roses......


We're only $8,000,000,000,000.00 more in debt than we were then......

 

[Spoonman]

Russia never would have attempted this under bush. they never would have attempted this under Clinton because of a strong aggressive republican congress. for 5 years putin has been manipulating Obama until the time was right to strike

 

[Spoonman]

But at what cost? Can't think beyond just today, can you?

Sure I can. We're better off now than we were during the Iraq War. The costs are less. This isn't difficult. C'mon. Conservatives have lost two Presidential elections in a row now , and voters' fear of an unrepentant GOP aggressive foreign policy is the number reason why.

really? them why is the national debt growing so rapidly?

 

[Sallow]

Russia never would have attempted this under bush. they never would have attempted this under Clinton because of a strong aggressive republican congress. for 5 years putin has been manipulating Obama until the time was right to strike

Attempted what?

Did you miss the Georgia invasion?

Well yeah..you did.

 

[thanatos144]

Russia never would have attempted this under bush. they never would have attempted this under Clinton because of a strong aggressive republican congress. for 5 years putin has been manipulating Obama until the time was right to strike

Attempted what?

Did you miss the Georgia invasion?

Well yeah..you did.

You just hate not being able to defend Obama's actions don't you?

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[Sallow]

Russia never would have attempted this under bush. they never would have attempted this under Clinton because of a strong aggressive republican congress. for 5 years putin has been manipulating Obama until the time was right to strike

Attempted what?

Did you miss the Georgia invasion?

Well yeah..you did.

You just hate not being able to defend Obama's actions don't you?

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What does that even mean?

 

[birddog]

Attempted what?

Did you miss the Georgia invasion?

Well yeah..you did.

You just hate not being able to defend Obama's actions don't you?

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What does that even mean?

It means you are a dumbass! There, now you know.

 

[mudwhistle]

You just hate not being able to defend Obama's actions don't you?

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What does that even mean?

It means you are a dumbass! There, now you know.

Most people learn a lesson from the past.

Not Obama.

Sallow's rationale is that because GWB was in office and it happened that let's Obama off the hook.

But we've been telling Obama for years not to trust Russia, but instead he did. Felt he could be more flexible after the election. A smart president would have done everything he could to prevent it from happening again. Instead Obama practically laid out the red carpet for Putin. What a fool.

 

[francoHFW]

And the Georgia attack was violent, dingbats...and Boooosh did NOTHING.The whole world EXCEPT hater dupes know who the dumbasses are...LOL

 

[Billo_Really]

Yes you did "ace" - and in the process you exposed your ignorance and humiliated yourself (as usual).

Are you that pussy, you can't answer a simple question?

Do questions scare you?

Are you not man enough to answer them?

 

[Billo_Really]

Clinton "warned" Bush while ignoring the problem and encouraging Al Qaeda for 8 years. He gutted defense.

We suffered more terrorist attacks under Bill Clinton than all U.S. president in history combined. And you think giving Bush a "warning" is something to be proud of?!?

Do you think Bush doing nothing for 8 months is something to admire?

 

[Billo_Really]

You really believe the Iranians were "self-governed"?

We're the Iraqis also "self-governed" under Saddam Hussein? We're the Russians also "self-governed" under Joseph Stalin?

If the strongest argument you can make is an outrageous and completely historically inaccurate one, it really proves you're on the wrong side of the debate.

Check this out fuck-face, it's not up to you or your wretched ilk, to decide who leads what country.

It's none of your god-damn business!

 

[Billo_Really]

And how would any of those things helped? What good would it done to run out of the room screaming and panicking as you libtards do and as you expect others to do?

He was waiting on information, stupid. Libtards love to crow about Obama's calm demeanor and rational "thinking" (as if Obama has done that even once in his miserable life - he's just a puppet for daddy's ideology) but when a Republican does the same thing and doesn't go off half-cocked on a knee-jerk reaction, you cry about it.

Proof that you are a blind, retarded, partisan HACK!

He was told the country was "under attack", what other fucking information do you need to know?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Rott, dude, you have already been outed.

Look up "false equivalency", learn it, stop doing it.

 

[Kondor3]

The OP has a point


Bush was considered weak, that is why the terrorists attacked us on 9-11

Unlikely.

Shrub had only been in office about 8 months at the time of the attacks.

The planning for 9-11 (including agent infiltration, flying lessons, etc.) had been underway longer than that.

No doubt... Shrub had has own collection of faults worth bemoaning.

Weakness in the face of the enemy probably wasn't one of them.

Now... Carter, on the other hand... America's answer to Neville Chamberlain.

 

[dr.d]

I'm sure Putin and his pals r laughing their asses off as Americans of different ideologies argue back and forth over which of our presidents was weakest and thereby invited more aggression...



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[hangover]

The OP has a point


Bush was considered weak, that is why the terrorists attacked us on 9-11

Actually they attacked us because Clinton gave them free roam to operate and did so while gutting defense. Al Qaeda operatives who were captured are on record that 9/11 took years of recruiting, training, planning, and financing. Bush was only on the job for less than 8 months and operating under Clinton's final defense-gutted budget when the attacks occured.

Oops...wrongwinger wrong once again!

Bush was handed the CIA report on the USS Cole when he took office, and did nothing about it.

bin Laden saw that weakness and exploited it.

H.W. Bush as CIA director during Nixon....nough said.

 

[1776]

Asswipe....Bush was busy fighting Democraps over his Admin picks after Democraps claimed he stole the election.

If he started a war in Afghanistan before 9-11 over intel that Clinton sat on....scum like you would've impeached Bush in his first year.

Clinton "warned" Bush while ignoring the problem and encouraging Al Qaeda for 8 years. He gutted defense.

We suffered more terrorist attacks under Bill Clinton than all U.S. president in history combined. And you think giving Bush a "warning" is something to be proud of?!?

Do you think Bush doing nothing for 8 months is something to admire?

 

[Kondor3]

Yeppers... so what do we do about that?

I'm sure Putin and his pals r laughing their asses off as Americans of different ideologies argue back and forth over which of our presidents was weakest and thereby invited more aggression...

 

[Iceweasel]

Yeppers... so what do we do about that?

What we should have done all along. Utilize our resources and produce oil and gas to export levels. Russia's economy is shakey at best, that would have been a big stick they couldn't have used on Europe.