LePen Top Vote Getter in First Round

All they need support is the idea of free trade, free markets and free minds and they'll get exactly what they're hoping for and more.

Don't need Brussels for that.
The catch is that to vote for what passes for 'free trade' in France, you have to vote for wide open borders, to slide deeper into the European Union and the loss of French identity.

The more conservative candidate is in favor of more government control of the economy and less involvement in the EU and secure borders.

As long as non citizens do not benefit from any form of government provided support, you're good to go. Robust trade and peaceful interaction do not diminish the cultural identity of a nation, they support it. After all, why would foreign nations trade with you if your culture didn't produce something of value?

In less than 20 years 90% of the voting public will be in favor of government aid of some form due to an 80% unemployment rate from the Robotics Revolution.

Dont be too proud to admit in 2040 that Bernie was right after all.

I'm sorry, are you advocating Socialism? That's never been right, IMO. Deeply immoral ideology.

Re what the voting public wants, that's what the Constitution is for. We are not a democracy, we are a Constitutional Republic. Two wolves and a sheep do not get to decided what's for dinner. Of course, they can try to overthrow and write a new law of the land. Good luck with that.
 
I'm sorry, are you advocating Socialism? That's never been right, IMO. Deeply immoral ideology.

Re what the voting public wants, that's what the Constitution is for. We are not a democracy, we are a Constitutional Republic. Two wolves and a sheep do not get to decided what's for dinner. Of course, they can try to overthrow and write a new law of the land. Good luck with that.
Nordic Model Socialism is not Marxism and some would say not even socialism.

It is a mixed economy where the top priority is not corporate profits but the interests and welfare of the public instead.

Sort of 'Capitalism with a human face'.
 
Yup I'm dying to have WWIII which the euro was designed to prevent.

WWII was fought to end the Axis powers attempt to instill themselves as central planners. The bureaucracies in Brussels opted for creeping progressive meddling to obtain their central planner status. Better than using military force I suppose, but if one cares about actual results over intentions, best to stop them before things get out of hand.

European countries can conduct free trade among themselves without the meddlers in Brussels. Free trade equals peace; people in charge forcing their will on others causes war.
The Common Market, forerunner of the European Union (EU), was formed to combat European nationalisms and economic competition between its member states which lead to wars. It is working and has the support of European youth who want a future characterized by cooperation and shared identity.
Europe must remain White in order to preserve its heritage, culture and traditions. Diversity and multiculturalism doesn't work. The Muslim migration has proven that.

I agree multiculturalism doesn't work. However, if peoples of the same land embrace a successful and productive culture, diversity of background, be it ethnic, racial, geographic, or otherwise is not a problem and can actually be an asset.
The USA is the most multicultural and ethnically mixed country on the planet.

No, you want multiculturalism, or at least you think you do. From the time of the founding, through most of the progressive era, the American culture was simple and hugely successful. Further, a key element of that culture was that any citizen from any background could and did succeed by embracing things like getting an education, working your ass off so your kids have it better, being charitable while protecting what was yours, and just generally acting like a decent human being.

Of course there are other cultures within the society. Some do okay, most do not, at least if government statistics and the rhetoric of the left are to be believed.

And that's my point. Some cultures work, some don't. They can influence one another over time. They can even live peacefully in their own bordering areas, but there is no "multi". It's a ridiculous Utopian fantasy for some and a tool for the central planners to herd the sheep.

Don't be a sheep.
 
I'm sorry, are you advocating Socialism? That's never been right, IMO. Deeply immoral ideology.

Re what the voting public wants, that's what the Constitution is for. We are not a democracy, we are a Constitutional Republic. Two wolves and a sheep do not get to decided what's for dinner. Of course, they can try to overthrow and write a new law of the land. Good luck with that.
Nordic Model Socialism is not Marxism and some would say not even socialism.

It is a mixed economy where the top priority is not corporate profits but the interests and welfare of the public instead.

Sort of 'Capitalism with a human face'.

If that human face requires theft, enforced by armed government agents, it's immoral. Whatever you call it, if that public interest means that because I happen to the be a healthcare provider, I must provide my services to you, well, then you have made me an indentured servant. Also immoral.

Freedom baby.
 
I'm sorry, are you advocating Socialism? That's never been right, IMO. Deeply immoral ideology.

Re what the voting public wants, that's what the Constitution is for. We are not a democracy, we are a Constitutional Republic. Two wolves and a sheep do not get to decided what's for dinner. Of course, they can try to overthrow and write a new law of the land. Good luck with that.
Nordic Model Socialism is not Marxism and some would say not even socialism.

It is a mixed economy where the top priority is not corporate profits but the interests and welfare of the public instead.

Sort of 'Capitalism with a human face'.

If that human face requires theft, enforced by armed government agents, it's immoral. Whatever you call it, if that public interest means that because I happen to the be a healthcare provider, I must provide my services to you, well, then you have made me an indentured servant. Also immoral.

Freedom baby.
Taxation by the government is not theft.

Try again.
 
..Freedom baby.
Ayn Rand Rules:badgrin:
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<---Lady Liberty :badgrin:

:badgrin: Taxation is theft :badgrin: Ignorance is wisdom :badgrin:
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Looks like another Eurpoean nation tilting right to protect their citizens.
French presidential election: Le Pen, Macron projected as winners in first round

Looks like you are wrong

With 97 percent of votes counted, centrist candidate Emmanuel Macron decisively won Sunday’s first round with 23.9 percent of votes. Macron will meet hardliner Le Pen in the runoff on May 7. Le Pen took home 21.4 percent of the votes. Conservative Fillon and far-left candidate Jean-Luc Mélenchon were eliminated, with 19.9 and 19.6 percent respectively.
 
Looks like another Eurpoean nation tilting right to protect their citizens.
French presidential election: Le Pen, Macron projected as winners in first round

Looks like you are wrong

With 97 percent of votes counted, centrist candidate Emmanuel Macron decisively won Sunday’s first round with 23.9 percent of votes. Macron will meet hardliner Le Pen in the runoff on May 7. Le Pen took home 21.4 percent of the votes. Conservative Fillon and far-left candidate Jean-Luc Mélenchon were eliminated, with 19.9 and 19.6 percent respectively.
2.5%.. decisive?
 
All they need support is the idea of free trade, free markets and free minds and they'll get exactly what they're hoping for and more.

Don't need Brussels for that.
The catch is that to vote for what passes for 'free trade' in France, you have to vote for wide open borders, to slide deeper into the European Union and the loss of French identity.

The more conservative candidate is in favor of more government control of the economy and less involvement in the EU and secure borders.

As long as non citizens do not benefit from any form of government provided support, you're good to go. Robust trade and peaceful interaction do not diminish the cultural identity of a nation, they support it. After all, why would foreign nations trade with you if your culture didn't produce something of value?

In less than 20 years 90% of the voting public will be in favor of government aid of some form due to an 80% unemployment rate from the Robotics Revolution.

Dont be too proud to admit in 2040 that Bernie was right after all.

I'm sorry, are you advocating Socialism? That's never been right, IMO. Deeply immoral ideology.

Re what the voting public wants, that's what the Constitution is for. We are not a democracy, we are a Constitutional Republic. Two wolves and a sheep do not get to decided what's for dinner. Of course, they can try to overthrow and write a new law of the land. Good luck with that.
And you profess to be moral?
 
The entire global establishment are backing Macron in France. That should tell you everything you need to know.
 
I'm sorry, are you advocating Socialism? That's never been right, IMO. Deeply immoral ideology.

Re what the voting public wants, that's what the Constitution is for. We are not a democracy, we are a Constitutional Republic. Two wolves and a sheep do not get to decided what's for dinner. Of course, they can try to overthrow and write a new law of the land. Good luck with that.
Nordic Model Socialism is not Marxism and some would say not even socialism.

It is a mixed economy where the top priority is not corporate profits but the interests and welfare of the public instead.

Sort of 'Capitalism with a human face'.

If that human face requires theft, enforced by armed government agents, it's immoral. Whatever you call it, if that public interest means that because I happen to the be a healthcare provider, I must provide my services to you, well, then you have made me an indentured servant. Also immoral.

Freedom baby.
Taxation by the government is not theft.

Try again.

Why, because you voted for it? Because the government approves? At one time, people voted for and governments supported slavery and when some stood up and said no, this is immoral, your ilk argument they're not real people. Now you tell us taking other people's money isn't theft. The self denial is overwhelming.

Sorry, but forcing money from an individual with the threat of incarceration if that person does not hand over the loot is absolutely theft.

The left are an immoral people and must be resisted.
 
All they need support is the idea of free trade, free markets and free minds and they'll get exactly what they're hoping for and more.

Don't need Brussels for that.
The catch is that to vote for what passes for 'free trade' in France, you have to vote for wide open borders, to slide deeper into the European Union and the loss of French identity.

The more conservative candidate is in favor of more government control of the economy and less involvement in the EU and secure borders.

As long as non citizens do not benefit from any form of government provided support, you're good to go. Robust trade and peaceful interaction do not diminish the cultural identity of a nation, they support it. After all, why would foreign nations trade with you if your culture didn't produce something of value?

In less than 20 years 90% of the voting public will be in favor of government aid of some form due to an 80% unemployment rate from the Robotics Revolution.

Dont be too proud to admit in 2040 that Bernie was right after all.

I'm sorry, are you advocating Socialism? That's never been right, IMO. Deeply immoral ideology.

Re what the voting public wants, that's what the Constitution is for. We are not a democracy, we are a Constitutional Republic. Two wolves and a sheep do not get to decided what's for dinner. Of course, they can try to overthrow and write a new law of the land. Good luck with that.
And you profess to be moral?

I do. Are you professing to actually be contributing something meaningful to this discussion?
 

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