Leftism: The Perpetual, Universal, Mistake

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1. Well...you may choose to call it communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism....
...or, simply use the generic...'Leftism'....no matter.
Any differences are mere technicalities, distinctions without differences.

All of them demand that the individual bend the knee and submit to the dictates of big, unimpeded, government.



Today is a perfect time to bring up an example....

Today is an anniversary of sorts....and not a pleasant one. 'TheAndijan massacre occurred when Uzbek Interior Ministry(MVD) and National Security Service(SNB) troops fired into a crowd of protesters in Andijan in Uzbekistan on 13 May 2005.... ' Andijan massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And it is an important lesson in the geopolitical reality of Leftwing politics.




What is the result of speaking out....thinking, even.....against big collectivist government?

2. "A row of armored tanks rolled slowly toward the square. Each one carried a machine gun on the turret, manned by a soldier.
A chopper- Charlie recognized it as an Mi-24 Hind- thundered over he roof of a hotel across from the square. A man with a scoped rifle sat in the open bay of the chopper.....

".. I see we now have the attention of our great leader, President Karimov"

Charlie watched the approaching tanks. Several armored personnel carriers followed, filled with soldiers. A tall young officer with an enormous hat leaped from the lead vehicle to the ground and began to point his arms, ordering men from the vehicles. The troops poured out, but they weren't carrying riot shields or batons....they were carrying submachine guns.


Surely they weren't planning....

Before he could even finish the thought, the officer shouted a command and the soldiers loaded and cocked their weapons.....pointing toward the crowd.
Time seemed to slow. Could this really be happening? Without so much as a warning, they were going to fire on unarmed civilians?
The hubbub of the crowd died down as they seemed to sense what was about to happen. For a moment, there was no sound at all but the idling of the tanks.

Then the cry of the officer rang out. "Fire!"

All of the soldiers opened fire at once until the shooting became a deafening rattle of death. ...pure chaos. The crowd, unsure of which way to flee, facing gunfire from snipers on every side of the square, swirled and surged frantically in all directions.



....a bloody woman dragging a lifeless man, her facie crazed with disbelief and horror. Next, it was a child- knocked down, disappearing in the melee. Next, an old man in a turban, blasted in the chest, falling like a puppet whose strings had been cut.....on the ground, and folded, her torso oddly twisted, like a paper doll that had been bent at some anatomically impossible angle."
From the novel "Out of Range," by Hank Steinberg.




3. And, the President mentioned in the passage above.....a real person. Uzbek President, communist, and leader of the Liberal Democrat Party.

" Islom Abdugʻaniyevich Karimov(CyrillicUzbek:Ислом Абдуғаниевич Каримов;Russian:Ислам Абдуганиевич Каримов,Islam Abduganiyevich Karimov;Tajik:Ислам Абдуганиевич Каримов; born 30 January 1938) is the first President of Uzbekistan, in office since 1990.

President of theUzbek Soviet Socialist Republic.... 24 March 1990 – 1 September 1991.... First Secretary of the Communist Party of Uzbekistan Communist Party(1964–91) People's Democratic Party(1991–2007) Liberal Democratic Party(2007–present) Islam Karimov - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



An accident that his party chose the title the Liberal Democrat Party? Just a coincidence?
Hardly.


It is what big government collectivists feel most comfortable with.
 
Slave owning Founders were liberals and communist, why their collective of free labor made sure they were all paid the same..
 
So the Romanov's were communist, socialist and democrats, since under their regimes they massacred folks also..Same with many, many Popes....
 
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Today is a perfect time to bring up an example....

Today is an anniversary of sorts....and not a pleasant one. 'TheAndijan massacre occurred when Uzbek Interior Ministry(MVD) and National Security Service(SNB) troops fired into a crowd of protesters in Andijan in Uzbekistan on 13 May 2005.... ' Andijan massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And it is an important lesson in the geopolitical reality of Leftwing politics.

.

Compared to what? George Bush's massacre of hundreds of innocents during Shock and Awe?
 
1. Well...you may choose to call it communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism....
...or, simply use the generic...'Leftism'....no matter.
Any differences are mere technicalities, distinctions without differences.

All of them demand that the individual bend the knee and submit to the dictates of big, unimpeded, government.



Today is a perfect time to bring up an example....

Today is an anniversary of sorts....and not a pleasant one. 'TheAndijan massacre occurred when Uzbek Interior Ministry(MVD) and National Security Service(SNB) troops fired into a crowd of protesters in Andijan in Uzbekistan on 13 May 2005.... ' Andijan massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And it is an important lesson in the geopolitical reality of Leftwing politics.




What is the result of speaking out....thinking, even.....against big collectivist government?

2. "A row of armored tanks rolled slowly toward the square. Each one carried a machine gun on the turret, manned by a soldier.
A chopper- Charlie recognized it as an Mi-24 Hind- thundered over he roof of a hotel across from the square. A man with a scoped rifle sat in the open bay of the chopper.....

".. I see we now have the attention of our great leader, President Karimov"

Charlie watched the approaching tanks. Several armored personnel carriers followed, filled with soldiers. A tall young officer with an enormous hat leaped from the lead vehicle to the ground and began to point his arms, ordering men from the vehicles. The troops poured out, but they weren't carrying riot shields or batons....they were carrying submachine guns.


Surely they weren't planning....

Before he could even finish the thought, the officer shouted a command and the soldiers loaded and cocked their weapons.....pointing toward the crowd.
Time seemed to slow. Could this really be happening? Without so much as a warning, they were going to fire on unarmed civilians?
The hubbub of the crowd died down as they seemed to sense what was about to happen. For a moment, there was no sound at all but the idling of the tanks.

Then the cry of the officer rang out. "Fire!"

All of the soldiers opened fire at once until the shooting became a deafening rattle of death. ...pure chaos. The crowd, unsure of which way to flee, facing gunfire from snipers on every side of the square, swirled and surged frantically in all directions.



....a bloody woman dragging a lifeless man, her facie crazed with disbelief and horror. Next, it was a child- knocked down, disappearing in the melee. Next, an old man in a turban, blasted in the chest, falling like a puppet whose strings had been cut.....on the ground, and folded, her torso oddly twisted, like a paper doll that had been bent at some anatomically impossible angle."
From the novel "Out of Range," by Hank Steinberg.




3. And, the President mentioned in the passage above.....a real person. Uzbek President, communist, and leader of the Liberal Democrat Party.

" Islom Abdugʻaniyevich Karimov(CyrillicUzbek:Ислом Абдуғаниевич Каримов;Russian:Ислам Абдуганиевич Каримов,Islam Abduganiyevich Karimov;Tajik:Ислам Абдуганиевич Каримов; born 30 January 1938) is the first President of Uzbekistan, in office since 1990.

President of theUzbek Soviet Socialist Republic.... 24 March 1990 – 1 September 1991.... First Secretary of the Communist Party of Uzbekistan Communist Party(1964–91) People's Democratic Party(1991–2007) Liberal Democratic Party(2007–present) Islam Karimov - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



An accident that his party chose the title the Liberal Democrat Party? Just a coincidence?
Hardly.


It is what big government collectivists feel most comfortable with.

The protests were instigated by Islamist extremist groups.
 
Communism in its purist form is stateless. Google "withering away of the state"
FAIL
 
The Founders were conservatives? So much for any credibility of the OP...


Watch how quickly I reveal you to be a lying, uneducated twit.


Now....the Founders, they were Classical Liberals....known today as conservatives.

Their fundamental ideas were based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

No socialists, communists, Nazis, Liberals, fascists, nor Progressives can make that claim.


Stop lying....do your best.
 
4. The slaughter of innocents in that passage in Steinberg's novel refers to a very real event, one that occurred on this date, May 13th.

"TheAndijan massacreoccurred when UzbekInterior Ministry(MVD) andNational Security Service(SNB) troops fired into a crowd ofprotestersinAndijaninUzbekistanon 13 May 2005.[1][2][3]Estimates of those killed on 13 May range from 187, the official count of the government, to several hundred.[1][4]A defector from the SNB alleged that 1,500 were killed.[5]The bodies of many of those who died were allegedly hidden inmass gravesfollowing themassacre.[6]

The Uzbek government eventually acknowledged that poor economic conditions in the region and popular resentment played a role in the uprising.[12]

The Uzbek government ordered the closing of the United States air base inKarshi-Khanabadand improved ties with the People's Republic of China and Russia, who supported the regime's response in Andijan." Andijan massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia





Whether Uzbekistan, or China, or Russia..... or the current administration of the United States? .....what do they have in common?

Of course: they abhor the principles upon which the United States was founded:

individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


Conservative principles.
 
PROPAGANDA: information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.

THE BIG LIE: "All of them demand that the individual bend the knee and submit to the dictates of big, unimpeded, government."
 
The Founders were conservatives? So much for any credibility of the OP...


Watch how quickly I reveal you to be a lying, uneducated twit.


Now....the Founders, they were Classical Liberals....known today as conservatives.

Their fundamental ideas were based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

No socialists, communists, Nazis, Liberals, fascists, nor Progressives can make that claim.


Stop lying....do your best.
Google "mercantilism" :thup:
 
The People's REPUBLIC of China.
The Founders were conservatives? So much for any credibility of the OP...


Watch how quickly I reveal you to be a lying, uneducated twit.


Now....the Founders, they were Classical Liberals....known today as conservatives.

Their fundamental ideas were based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

No socialists, communists, Nazis, Liberals, fascists, nor Progressives can make that claim.


Stop lying....do your best.

They did not support free markets. You have parroted that line 50 times now and have been wrong every time.

They supported tariff based protectionism, they supported a strong and supreme federal government.
 
OP doesn't realize conservatives used to support a social hierarchy... :dunno:
 
PROPAGANDA: information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.

THE BIG LIE: "All of them demand that the individual bend the knee and submit to the dictates of big, unimpeded, government."



As is true in every avenue of your life,...'you're a day late and a penny short.'

Well....perhaps not a day...but, certainly late.

This was in post #10:
Whether Uzbekistan, or China, or Russia..... or the current administration of the United States? .....what do they have in common?

Of course: they abhor the principles upon which the United States was founded:

individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


Conservative principles.



It aborted your post before you gave birth to it.


Or....would you like to deny this: "...you may choose to call it communism, socialism, Liberalism, Nazism, Progressivism, or Fascism....
...or, simply use the generic...'Leftism'....no matter.
Any differences are mere technicalities, distinctions without differences.....none favor individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


Please do...so that all can see that you are a liar, as well as a slow-witted dolt.
 

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