Krugman's big argument about government jobs:

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    He says in his new book that if government spending can't create jobs then private spending can't either.

    The truth is that government spending can only create temporary make-work liberal jobs while the private sector can create real jobs.

    Whats the difference? A real job is created peacefully between 2 people who agree to create a job on a voluntary basis.

    A liberal make-work government job only exists at the point of a liberal gun.
     
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    what are military jobs?

    what are police jobs?


    what are teaching jobs?

    what are firefighter jobs?

    What are postal jobs?


    What are road maintainence jobs?
     
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    When the people need a service done they pay sozmeone to do it.

    That person then in turn pays taxes and buys shit.

    It aint rocket science you fact adverse fool
     
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    1) people buy lots of stuff; its only when the government is involved it is done at the point of a gun

    2) government liberal jobs cost about double what real jobs cost

    3) often they don't need to be done at all

    4) they are monopoly jobs so the efficiency with which they are done is about 30% of what a real job would be.

    5) government workers are ruined for life and then cant contribute to innovation in the private sector

    The solution to have a strong growing economy is reduce liberal jobs to the bone, and then some.
     
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    Truthmatters, you have to understand that Ed is a tool. Even he probably does not believe the drivel he spouts. It is just dogma. From his handler to Ed to whoever he can get to listen. No proof of anything.
    Just dogma. Makes no sense. And what he really hates is that even the tea party hero, the guy who's history they are trying to rewrite, RONALD REAGAN, understood that what you are saying was true. Used the logic to clean up his own mess. Easy to document, and Ed just gets flustered.

    Your points bug him, he can't argue them, since they are totally true. Expect really cool insults next.
     
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    of course make work doesn't stimulate it depresses the economy. If the tax money was not stolen it would create 2 jobs in the competitive private sector where you live and die by having the best product in the world.

    A government job has no competition at twice the price. Imagine what cars would be like if they were made by one government monopoly. In Hungary in 1985 you had to back cars up a hill because the carburetors were gravity feed, and you needed a dip stick to check gas level.

    Now even a liberal can see the trade off between capitalist make work and liberalism?
     
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    None of those are jobs that add to the bottom line.

    Government jobs do not add to net tax revenue nor do they add to net GDP.

    All the money spent by government employees belonged first to the private sector and was then taken from the private sector and given to public employees.

    The net result in taxes and GDP would be the same if the private sector kept and spent saved or invested all that money.

    In short government jobs do nothing for the economy.
     
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    Why can't Obama make everyone a czar

    Zero unemployment!
     
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    GDP would be more without the government jobs since

    1) a government worker makes twice the pay and produces about half the GDP as a real private sector worker

    2) a government worker often does make work that does not really need to be done and is not innovative so does not help GDP grow, at best it churns the economy at the current level.
     
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    The military and the police protect your right to private ownership of property. Who would bother to produce anything and add to the GDP if anyone could simply take ALL of what they produced away from them???

    The Founding Fathers did not create anarchy, they created a government by and FOR the people!
     

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