Joe Mauer: AL MVP

[Paulie]

LOL, so you really didn't understand. Wow!

The point dumb-ass, is that setup men pitch in more "tough spots" than closers, most of the time. It was very simple. You are so out of touch, that you think the only tough spots pitched by relievers, are by the closer. That how retarded you are, LOL.

You are officially the most desperate retard on this board.

Let's keep going round-in-round, making you look stupid is getting fun!

A set-up man starts the 8th inning off. A closer starts the 9th inning off. Either way, the pitcher is opening the inning with no runners on base. How 'tough' the spot is in either inning depends on who's due up. But being responsible for getting the last 3 outs of the game with a 2 or 1 run lead is typically a much tougher spot than opening the 8th. I'm not sure there's a baseball fan alive that would disagree with that, other than YOU apparently. In fact, Madson himself said this during a postgame on-field interview after closing a game out this season.

You're trying to back peddle out of your stupid ass post about "tough spots'. Just admit that you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about.

You're obviously getting a set up man EXTREMELY confused with a specialist who more often than not comes into a game with inherited runners.

Everyone knows you're a moron but you. But that's understandable, being that you're a MORON.

No genius, setup men inherit runners all the time. All the time. Closers very rarely do.

Look, I'm beyond feeling bad for you and your simplistic, childish views of baseball. You haven't evolved with the game. Your views are of an older guy who hasn't caught up, and is desperately trying to hold on.

I feel bad for you. It's not easy dealing with the fact that you are terrible at something, in which you thought you were good at. Denial is a powerful thing, and you are great at it!

Discussing baseball with you is like discussing philosophy with a caveman. You are baseball retarded. I no longer get joy out of beating the shit of you in debates. I seriously feel terrible for you. So, I'm gonna lay off. Because desperation is one of the saddest things in life. I wish you well, and hope logic creeps into your life someday.

PS: You are seriously one of the dumbest fucks I've ever encountered!

Sorry brotha, but you're not going to win this one. The only time Madson inherited runners this season was if the starter went into the 8th and then got yanked in the middle of it. Sometimes it happened, most times it DIDN'T.

We had very few starters take a game into the 8th inning this year until Lee came aboard. These days, especially in the NL, it's considered a successful start to go 7 innings. The optimal game plan is 7 innings from your starter, the 8th from your set up man, and then your closer. This is fucking baseball 101 these days.

But yeah, this discussion is definitely over. I've grown tired of you.

 

[Xenophon]

Sorry brotha, but you're not going to win this one. The only time Madson inherited runners this season was if the starter went into the 8th and then got yanked in the middle of it. Sometimes it happened, most times it DIDN'T.

We had very few starters take a game into the 8th inning this year until Lee came aboard. These days, especially in the NL, it's considered a successful start to go 7 innings. The optimal game plan is 7 innings from your starter, the 8th from your set up man, and then your closer. This is fucking baseball 101 these days.

But yeah, this discussion is definitely over. I've grown tired of you.

According to modern sports, 6 innings and three runs is a 'quality start'.

Of course that is bullshit, that is a 4.50 ERA, but the new age stat gurus think they know it all, while they know nothing, as this thread shows.