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5stringJeff said:Read your Bible.
rtwngAvngr said:Maybe to a degree. Get into the present, man. Chrisitan Zionism is by no means the only jew influence in america. It just happens to be one, and it's one of the most influential pro israel influence on the right IMO. Be honest.
rtwngAvngr said:Why should he read his bible when religion plays no part here, as you've asserted in adjacent posts? I thought it was all about democracy. I guess that's a lie.
You're losing it. The neocon movement is dead.
5stringJeff said:Christian Zionism is a Christian influence, not a Jewish one.
rtwngAvngr said:It's a pro Israel christian influence. Jews are highly interested in israel. Did you know that? Your little word games are not impressive.
5stringJeff said:To use your analogY:
1. Hitler ate breakfast.
2. Hitler was evil.
3. Therefore, all who eat breakfast are evil.
rtwngAvngr said:Bushbots are having mental breakdowns all over america.
rtwngAvngr said:Dude, there's clearly a jewish influence in Christian Zionism and a Christian Zionsit influence in america. It's the transitive property, not the shit-headed ridiculousness you posted above.
5stringJeff said:There is not a Jewish influence in Christian Zionism; it's a biblically influenced position. If you don't know the difference between Christianity and Judaism, it's worthless to debate with you.
rtwngAvngr said:Yeah. Right jeff. I have some magic beans for ya, too.
rtwngAvngr said:I'm just certian the evangelical movement wouldn't have been allowed to flourish as it has if they hadn't included Christian Zionism in their platform.
dmp said:I'm still wondering why non-christians voted...
5stringJeff said:So the Jews would have tried to stop the rise of evangelical Christianity if it didn't include Zionism... just like the Jews have stopped anti-Semitic Christian and Muslim movements in the past, right?
rtwngAvngr said:Well, there are valid non-mythological reasons for supporting israel. But in any international relationship it should be a two way street. When jews advocate screwed up detrimental policy in the U.S. we should pull some support. Fair's fair. My problem with Christian Zionism is that it seems to promote unconditional jewish support, regardless of how red-headed-step-child-like they treat us.
dmp said:The question: Do Jews need Christ for Salvation? Is purely a Christian-based question. People who dont know christianity really would have no idea.
The formulation of a body of moral principles to govern mankind is currently the objective of a worldwide, multicultural and religio-political network that is working diligently to hasten mankind's return to the Natural Law. This many-faceted movement is demanding that entire nations submit to a set of principles variously termed the Noahide Laws, the Moral Law, Natural Law, Universal Law, etc. Such a movement would normally not concern Christians, who are required under most circumstances to obey the laws of those in governmental authority. However, this movement is not working exclusively outside the pale of Christianity, but has infiltrated and is using the Christian Church to establish its global governing apparatus.
