It's time to part ways

[P@triot]

If the "conservative" states were to form their own country, it would be a theocracy with an even wider gap between rich and poor compared to what we have now.

The new liberal country would likely be an inefficient socialist state, abundent with useless regulations and red tape, but it would still have a higher standard of living compared to conservative America.

A conservative nation would have a huge, well trained military. But no cops or firemen, because they are evil "gubermint" employees. But their massive military wouldnt be allowed to enforce laws within the nation, because that would be martial law and that would make you a socialist Obama loving communist. So it would be survival of the fittest and richest. Huge walls would be built around rich neighborhoods, while the local poor fought amongst themselves for scraps (kinda like wealthy gated communities in shitty poor metro areas now).

There would only be private schools....cuz you know, teachers are also evil gubermint employees.

Cars would have no tags or insurance. DMV's handle that. And you know who works at DMV's....yep. Gubermint employees.

The roads would be built and maintained only through the private sector. But when a road was needed, or needed to be repaired, there would be a big plastic jug with a "Please Donate" sign on it, so all the private citizens could collect enough to hire a private company to build the road. Meanwhile...while citizens drove on shitty roads or dirt roads, they'd bitch about "why dont somebody do sumtin' bout these dad gum roads!"

A conservative nation wouldn't need cops. See, unlike you liberal thugs, conservatives know how to conduct themselves in civilized, lawful fashion. Despite being 10x's the size of Occupy Wall Street, the Tea Party protests had exactly 0 crimes. No rapes. No murders. No shootings. No stabbings. No theft. In fact, after Tea Party rallies, the area's in question were cleaned up and left cleaner than before the Tea Party people got there.

And despite the ignorance of the left, I don't know a single conservative who hates taxes. What we hate is unconstitutional government taxing us back to the stone ages for unconstituional programs. Furthermore, at least half of the tax dollars are pissed away on the most insane pork spending, waste, and fraud known to man.

But of course, since the parasite class doesn't pay taxes, why should they give a fuck that conservatives hard earned tax dollars are being wasted?

 

[gallantwarrior]

Here is the reality of the political landscape in America today: the left has slid further and further left on the political scale and now the majority of the party is ruled by hard line radical communists/marxists/socialists/fascists, complete with all of the propaganda that ideology is known for. They are the parasite class that believes they are entitled to at least 50% of everything else other people have, and they will take it by force (well, they will try anyway ).

About 50 years ago, the golden boy of their party - John F. Kennedy - said two profound things. The first was that the only way to recover from a struggling economy was to cut taxes. The second, and more famous, was "Ask not, what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country". Today, anyone expressing that is viciously attacked by the idiot liberal dumbocrat as a "radical wing nut". That's how far off the sanity wagon their party has fallen.

So every day, America wakes up and butts heads with a radical ideology which is heavily uneducated and which is unwilling to work. And each day that is causing America to slip further into collapse. It's time that we end the war, part ways in a friendly manner, and allow them to incorporate their failed ideology (which will ultimately end in poverty for them like it has for Cuba and every other nation). Split the nation - 25 states each. Then we can continue the conservative constitutional path that created the greatest nation and earth and continue to thrive. There is no reason we should let their ignorance and failures drag us down.

You want to give them 25 states? I think you seriously overestimate how many states would want progressives running them. I dont think we should allow our brethren to be ruled with an iron fist.

That is a good point. We should allow a 'democratic' vote to be cast and the majority will rule which faction their state will join. Anyone not in agreement with the majority will just have to pack their shit and move on. I'm sure there will be plenty of space in the 'blue' states to welcome the new immigrants with open arms...as long as the new citizens arrived with open wallets.

 

[Full-Auto]

The only thing democrats should be given is a very hard time......

 

[gallantwarrior]

Mexico will annex the western Blue states, without a fight either.

They already have, for all intents and purposes. Particularly with the latest edict from their messiah-in-chief and self-proclaimed king, the one that declared anyone under the age of 30 who managed to slither across our borders to be worthy to compete on the severely limited job market.

 

[copsnrobbers]

Here is the reality of the political landscape in America today: the left has slid further and further left on the political scale and now the majority of the party is ruled by hard line radical communists/marxists/socialists/fascists, complete with all of the propaganda that ideology is known for. They are the parasite class that believes they are entitled to at least 50% of everything else other people have, and they will take it by force (well, they will try anyway ).

About 50 years ago, the golden boy of their party - John F. Kennedy - said two profound things. The first was that the only way to recover from a struggling economy was to cut taxes. The second, and more famous, was "Ask not, what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country". Today, anyone expressing that is viciously attacked by the idiot liberal dumbocrat as a "radical wing nut". That's how far off the sanity wagon their party has fallen.

So every day, America wakes up and butts heads with a radical ideology which is heavily uneducated and which is unwilling to work. And each day that is causing America to slip further into collapse. It's time that we end the war, part ways in a friendly manner, and allow them to incorporate their failed ideology (which will ultimately end in poverty for them like it has for Cuba and every other nation). Split the nation - 25 states each. Then we can continue the conservative constitutional path that created the greatest nation and earth and continue to thrive. There is no reason we should let their ignorance and failures drag us down.

They can have Alaska... Fuck em.

 

[francoHFW]

Pub dupes! What idiocy... Hint- Dems are worth more than GOP. ESPECIALLY if you take out our discriminated against blacks. So brainwashed....

 

[francoHFW]

OP- Brainwashed hater idiocy- Pub dupes.

Ok- you get the red states, we get the states that send their fed tax dollars to them- NO MORE lol. Then we exchange the intelligent people for your idiot dupes, fundies, and greedy a-holes...

 

[buckeye45_73]

If the "conservative" states were to form their own country, it would be a theocracy with an even wider gap between rich and poor compared to what we have now.

The new liberal country would likely be an inefficient socialist state, abundent with useless regulations and red tape, but it would still have a higher standard of living compared to conservative America.

A conservative nation would have a huge, well trained military. But no cops or firemen, because they are evil "gubermint" employees. But their massive military wouldnt be allowed to enforce laws within the nation, because that would be martial law and that would make you a socialist Obama loving communist. So it would be survival of the fittest and richest. Huge walls would be built around rich neighborhoods, while the local poor fought amongst themselves for scraps (kinda like wealthy gated communities in shitty poor metro areas now).

There would only be private schools....cuz you know, teachers are also evil gubermint employees.

Cars would have no tags or insurance. DMV's handle that. And you know who works at DMV's....yep. Gubermint employees.

The roads would be built and maintained only through the private sector. But when a road was needed, or needed to be repaired, there would be a big plastic jug with a "Please Donate" sign on it, so all the private citizens could collect enough to hire a private company to build the road. Meanwhile...while citizens drove on shitty roads or dirt roads, they'd bitch about "why dont somebody do sumtin' bout these dad gum roads!"

Well you're wrong, they would have roads, teachers and such, but they woudlnt be unionized and would have to earn their paycheck or they get fired. We would have severe penalties on criminals and liberals can let pedophiles out of jail, while we kill them.

And we're actually big supporters of cops, we'd have those and less administrator jobs that mayors put their friends in. Plus with cops, we'd make their work stick, so they wouldnt be arresting the same folks over and over and over again. And we'd allow them to beat ass on people who attack them.
For roads, we believe that is one of the few functions of government, so we'd have them built, without union labor, so they would be done better and faster (no more building roads in DECADES).

We'd have tons of jobs as lower taxes would cause business in liberalland to come over, while the liberals would have to build a wall to keep people in from the crappy economy, crime, and a military that would surrender to Mexico.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Most libtards couldn't survive Alaska. Outside of Anchorage, Fairbanks, and Juneau, it's still pretty rough. Oh, yeah...lot's of us have appropriate means of self-protection and backhoes...

 

[francoHFW]

All conservatives have produced is rich a-holes and DEPRESSIONS, jeebus what a bunch of stupid 50% racist brainwashed shytteheads.

So how come Pub conventions always get hurricanes, douchebag fundies?

 

[Sallow]

You guys lost during the Whiskey Rebellion. Your brother Mormons lost with their little snit fits. And you guys got your asses royally kicked in the civil war.

Feel free.

Start some shit again.

You get the same pasting you fucks always get.

 

[Bfgrn]

Here is the reality of the political landscape in America today: the left has slid further and further left on the political scale and now the majority of the party is ruled by hard line radical communists/marxists/socialists/fascists, complete with all of the propaganda that ideology is known for. They are the parasite class that believes they are entitled to at least 50% of everything else other people have, and they will take it by force (well, they will try anyway ).

About 50 years ago, the golden boy of their party - John F. Kennedy - said two profound things. The first was that the only way to recover from a struggling economy was to cut taxes. The second, and more famous, was "Ask not, what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country". Today, anyone expressing that is viciously attacked by the idiot liberal dumbocrat as a "radical wing nut". That's how far off the sanity wagon their party has fallen.

So every day, America wakes up and butts heads with a radical ideology which is heavily uneducated and which is unwilling to work. And each day that is causing America to slip further into collapse. It's time that we end the war, part ways in a friendly manner, and allow them to incorporate their failed ideology (which will ultimately end in poverty for them like it has for Cuba and every other nation). Split the nation - 25 states each. Then we can continue the conservative constitutional path that created the greatest nation and earth and continue to thrive. There is no reason we should let their ignorance and failures drag us down.

The great enemy of truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived and dishonest – but the myth – persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic. Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.
President John F. Kennedy

About 50 years ago, the golden boy of our party - John F. Kennedy implemented a demand-side cut that rests on the Keynesian theory that public consumption spurs economic activity. Government puts money in people's hands, as a temporary measure, so that they'll spend it. This distinction, taught in Economics 101, seldom makes it into the Washington sound-bite wars.

When Kennedy ran for president in 1960 amid a sluggish economy, he vowed to "get the country moving again." After his election, his advisers, led by chief economist Walter Heller, urged a classically Keynesian solution: running a deficit to stimulate growth. (The $10 billion deficit Heller recommended, bold at the time, seems laughably small by today's standards.) In Keynesian theory, a tax cut aimed at consumers would have a "multiplier" effect, since each dollar that a taxpayer spent would go to another taxpayer, who would in effect spend it again—meaning the deficit would be short-lived.

At first Kennedy balked at Heller's Keynesianism. He even proposed a balanced budget in his first State of the Union address. But Heller and his team won over the president. By mid-1962 Kennedy had seen the Keynesian light, and in January 1963 he declared that "the enactment this year of tax reduction and tax reform overshadows all other domestic issues in this Congress."

The plan Kennedy's team drafted had many elements, including the closing of loopholes (the "tax reform" Kennedy spoke of).Ultimately, in the form that Lyndon Johnson signed into law, it reduced tax withholding rates, initiated a new standard deduction, and boosted the top deduction for child care expenses, among other provisions. It did lower the top tax bracket significantly, although from a vastly higher starting point than anything we've seen in recent years: 91 percent on marginal income greater than $400,000. And he cut it only to 70 percent, hardly the mark of a future Club for Growth member.

JFK, the demand-side tax cutter

 

[auditor0007]

Dear Red States:

We're ticked off at the way you've treated California and we've decided we're leaving.

We intend to form our own country and we're taking the other Blue States with us.

In case you aren't aware that includes Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and all the Northeast.

We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation and especially to the people of the new country of New California.

To sum up briefly:

You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states.

We get stem cell research and the best beaches.[...].

We get the Statue of Liberty. You get OpryLand.

We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom.

We get Harvard. You get Ole' Miss.

We get 85 percent of America's venture capital and entrepreneurs.
You get Alabama.

We get two-thirds of the tax revenue. You get to make the red states
pay their fair share.

Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian Coalition's we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of single moms.[...]

With the Blue States in hand we will have firm control of 80% of the country's fresh water, more than 90% of the pineapple and lettuce, 92% of the nation's fresh fruit, 95% of America's quality wines (you can serve French wines at state dinners) 90% of all cheese, 90 percent of the high tech industry, most of the US low sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven

Sister schools plus Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Cal Tech and MIT.

With the Red States you will have to cope with 88% of all obese Americans and their projected health care costs, 92% of all US mosquitoes, nearly 100% of the tornadoes, 90% of the hurricanes, 99% of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100% of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia.

We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you.[...]

We're taking the good pot too. You can have that dirt weed they grow in Mexico.

Sincerely,
Author Unknown in New California

Dear Red States

Damn, I like this deal. Let's get her done.

 

[Borillar]

If the "conservative" states were to form their own country, it would be a theocracy with an even wider gap between rich and poor compared to what we have now.

The new liberal country would likely be an inefficient socialist state, abundent with useless regulations and red tape, but it would still have a higher standard of living compared to conservative America.

A conservative nation would have a huge, well trained military. But no cops or firemen, because they are evil "gubermint" employees. But their massive military wouldnt be allowed to enforce laws within the nation, because that would be martial law and that would make you a socialist Obama loving communist. So it would be survival of the fittest and richest. Huge walls would be built around rich neighborhoods, while the local poor fought amongst themselves for scraps (kinda like wealthy gated communities in shitty poor metro areas now).

There would only be private schools....cuz you know, teachers are also evil gubermint employees.

Cars would have no tags or insurance. DMV's handle that. And you know who works at DMV's....yep. Gubermint employees.

The roads would be built and maintained only through the private sector. But when a road was needed, or needed to be repaired, there would be a big plastic jug with a "Please Donate" sign on it, so all the private citizens could collect enough to hire a private company to build the road. Meanwhile...while citizens drove on shitty roads or dirt roads, they'd bitch about "why dont somebody do sumtin' bout these dad gum roads!"

A conservative nation wouldn't need cops. See, unlike you liberal thugs, conservatives know how to conduct themselves in civilized, lawful fashion. Despite being 10x's the size of Occupy Wall Street, the Tea Party protests had exactly 0 crimes. No rapes. No murders. No shootings. No stabbings. No theft. In fact, after Tea Party rallies, the area's in question were cleaned up and left cleaner than before the Tea Party people got there.

And despite the ignorance of the left, I don't know a single conservative who hates taxes. What we hate is unconstitutional government taxing us back to the stone ages for unconstituional programs. Furthermore, at least half of the tax dollars are pissed away on the most insane pork spending, waste, and fraud known to man.

But of course, since the parasite class doesn't pay taxes, why should they give a fuck that conservatives hard earned tax dollars are being wasted?

Ah, you guys would just be a bunch of gun toting vigilantes stringing up people from the nearest light posts.

All you conservatives hate taxes so you borrow money and spend like crazy on useless wars and corporate welfare.

Everybody pays taxes, not everyone makes enough to pay income taxes. Conservatives want to keep wages way down and then bitch that people don't pay income taxes. If you tightwads payed decent wages to Americans in America instead of pennies to Chinese slaves, more people would be paying income taxes. Conservatives in the investment class work hard sitting around the pool waiting for their dividend checks.

 

[auditor0007]

Nutters are quitters.

Yep...the OP is free to leave if he doesn't want to be part of the United States anymore.

See what I mean about the idiot liberal dumbocrats peeing themselves at the thought of not being able to mooch of off conservatives?

You get the communist utopia you dream about, we get our freedom and independence back. Everybody wins, so what's the problem?

Oh, that's right, you guys would actually have to start working without us around to "provide" for you (ie steal from us by force of government).

For the record, I want to be part of the US. It's you radical left-wing nuts that have wiped your ass with the constitution and pissed on everything America was founded on. It's you who doesn't want to be a part of the US.

You keep forgetting that the blue states pay more in federal taxes, by far, and receive less back. It's the red states that pay the least and get them most back. You and your brethren would have to figure out how to cover all that lost revenue. Blue states provide more than adequately for themselves. It's the red states who are the moochers and then bitch about liberals who support you. As usual, this shit couldn't be funnier.

 

[buckeye45_73]

You guys lost during the Whiskey Rebellion. Your brother Mormons lost with their little snit fits. And you guys got your asses royally kicked in the civil war.

Feel free.

Start some shit again.

You get the same pasting you fucks always get.

Sorry, we're union supporters, you know republicans, whereas the democrats were the confederates. So I thin you lost, you know Woodrow Wilson progressives that love the segregation.......

 

[Full-Auto]

Pub dupes! What idiocy... Hint- Dems are worth more than GOP. ESPECIALLY if you take out our discriminated against blacks. So brainwashed....

Funny frankie.......

You may wish to edit that remark?

You guys are worth more if you eliminate your discrimination against blacks..

You heard it from the horses mouth folks.

Racist bastards arent they..........

 

[gallantwarrior]

Yep...the OP is free to leave if he doesn't want to be part of the United States anymore.

See what I mean about the idiot liberal dumbocrats peeing themselves at the thought of not being able to mooch of off conservatives?

You get the communist utopia you dream about, we get our freedom and independence back. Everybody wins, so what's the problem?

Oh, that's right, you guys would actually have to start working without us around to "provide" for you (ie steal from us by force of government).

For the record, I want to be part of the US. It's you radical left-wing nuts that have wiped your ass with the constitution and pissed on everything America was founded on. It's you who doesn't want to be a part of the US.

You keep forgetting that the blue states pay more in federal taxes, by far, and receive less back. It's the red states that pay the least and get them most back. You and your brethren would have to figure out how to cover all that lost revenue. Blue states provide more than adequately for themselves. It's the red states who are the moochers and then bitch about liberals who support you. As usual, this shit couldn't be funnier.

Link?

 

[Sactowndog]

If the "conservative" states were to form their own country, it would be a theocracy with an even wider gap between rich and poor compared to what we have now.

The new liberal country would likely be an inefficient socialist state, abundent with useless regulations and red tape, but it would still have a higher standard of living compared to conservative America.

Not really, because that conservatie "theocracy state" as you call it, would pretty much be American until FDR....which we were owning the world, FDR fucked it up, but hey WW2 was a Godsend......

The dumb***** already tried it once, got their ass kicked and were lucky they didn't become the banana republic they were destined to be. I say let them go. Not a single top research university is located in that god forsaken part of the country. Let Mississipi, Alabama and Texas lead you down that path.

 

[JDzBrain]

You keep forgetting that the blue states pay more in federal taxes, by far, and receive less back. It's the red states that pay the least and get them most back. You and your brethren would have to figure out how to cover all that lost revenue. Blue states provide more than adequately for themselves. It's the red states who are the moochers and then bitch about liberals who support you. As usual, this shit couldn't be funnier.

Uh...NO...they don't! The federal tax rate is the same no matter which state you live in. States do NOT collect federal taxes!

And you seem to forget that the most indebted states in this country and the closest to going bankrupt are the blue...most LIBERAL states!

If Commifornia doesn't get bailed out soon...AGAIN...they'll be more than just the half dozen cities that have already filed bankruptcy going down. It's going be the whole damn state!

4th largest economy in the WORLD and you've managed to tax and spend yourselves onto equal footing with Greece. WAY TO GO Commifornia. But hey, any state that would elect governor Moon Beam...TWICE...deserves what they get!

Now, that out of the way, I say we just take the 30 states that have ALREADY made their choice and elected conservative Governors and then...as someone else suggest, let the others VOTE on whether they want to live under the jackbooted fascist policies progressives/socialist WILL deliver them OR under our brand new form of government know as a representative republican government.

Oh, wait. That's not new. That IS what our Constitution guarantees every state. A REPUBLICAN form of government!

Either way, I'm guessing there will be about 4-6 states flying the one world banner and the rest will be flying the Stars and Strips of our founders. Hell, we'll even take New Jersey since they've even woken up.

Of course you guys will be separated on the left and right coast. So you'll have to pay us a HELL of a tax to transport goods across the red states that will make up 85% of the land mass. We'll have to pay for the damage you do to OUR roads somehow!

Or you could just form 2 TINY...ah, hum...self sufficient countries.

By the way jackasses. Only 12% of all roads in this country were built by the federal government using federal tax dollars. And you have NEVER met a cop, fireman, teacher or EMT that is paid using federal tax dollars...EVER!

They are paid by your LOCAL government...PERIOD!

If the fed wasn't taking ever dime you earn from January 1st to April 17th...you MIGHT be able to afford to pay more property and school taxes so you could afford to pay cops and teachers better!