It’s official: Trump condones murder of Washpo journalist

[Lesh]

Of a state he was an enemy of.

He was not an "enemy" he was a critic. Something that until recently wasn't a capital crime

---------------------------------- depends on how a foreign country , a different culture views things Lesh ,

Put it to you this way..

Putin had a lawyer murdered in a jail in Russia and we slapped sanctions on them.

MBS murders an American resident who is also an American journalist...and Trump excuses it and disrespects his own intel agencies.

So....

 

[Correll]

Of a state he was an enemy of.

He was not an "enemy" he was a critic. Something that until recently wasn't a capital crime

---------------------------------- depends on how a foreign country , a different culture views things Lesh ,

Put it to you this way..

Putin had a lawyer murdered in a jail in Russia and we slapped sanctions on them.

MBS murders an American resident who is also an American journalist...and Trump excuses it and disrespects his own intel agencies.

So....

Those sanctions. What have they accomplished?

 

[Doc1]

Khashoggi really trash talked Mo Salman, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia. What did he expect when he went to visit Mr. Salman on his own turf? Did he expect to get a freaking medal?

He went to TURKEY...assuming that an action like this was out of bounds.

Not in the world of Trump however. Despots can do whatever they want

He went to the Saudi consulate. Of a state he was an enemy of.


That was never a good idea.


Unless it is America. America is not a serous country.

Again. He was in Turkey not SA. An action like this (as we can see by the world wide reaction) is unheard of. He SHOULD have been safe.
But in a world where Trump has signaled to MBS can whatever the fuck he wants to...journalists are NOT safe anywhere if they speak out against despots

They never have been. If you play in the ME you play by their rules

 

[saveliberty]

Twisted words and panties is all the left has.

 

[Coyote]

Should he attack the Saudi’s? Are ewe libtards wanting to go to war? When will ewe sign up?

Is that the only moronic action you can come up with? We have similar issues with allies before, and we have done something. Not gone to war. Now we have given authoritarians a green light to kill whomever with a check.

 

[Hossfly]

Khashoggi really trash talked Mo Salman, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia. What did he expect when he went to visit Mr. Salman on his own turf? Did he expect to get a freaking medal?

He went to TURKEY...assuming that an action like this was out of bounds.

Not in the world of Trump however. Despots can do whatever they want

He went to the Saudi consulate. Of a state he was an enemy of.


That was never a good idea.


Unless it is America. America is not a serous country.

Again. He was in Turkey not SA. An action like this (as we can see by the world wide reaction) is unheard of. He SHOULD have been safe.
But in a world where Trump has signaled to MBS can whatever the fuck he wants to...journalists are NOT safe anywhere if they speak out against despots

If he was in the SA embassy then he was technically in SA. That's the rule whether liberals like it or not. When Iran took over the American embassy in 1979 it was an act of war and Carter didn't get re-elected in 1980 because he didn't react properly. Only minutes after Reagan was sworn in did the Iranians release the embassy hostages. Reagan would have gotten his big stick out and the Ayatollahs knew not to mess with Ronnie like they did with Jimmah.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Should he attack the Saudi’s? Are ewe libtards wanting to go to war? When will ewe sign up?

Is that the only moronic action you can come up with? We have similar issues with allies before, and we have done something. Not gone to war. Now we have given authoritarians a green light to kill whomever with a check.

Ah, No babe luv, that's what you radical leftists did in Venezuela....big time.

 

[MisterBeale]

Khashoggi really trash talked Mo Salman, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia. What did he expect when he went to visit Mr. Salman on his own turf? Did he expect to get a freaking medal?

He went to TURKEY...assuming that an action like this was out of bounds.

Not in the world of Trump however. Despots can do whatever they want

Now you are starting to FINALLY understand the reality of the STATE. Obama was a despot as well, the media just brainwashed you to think otherwise.

It took DONALD J. TRUMP to make you realize that the U.S. is no different than any other nation on Earth?

Hell, Anwar al-Awlaki, a US CITIZEN and citizen journalist, never had his habeas corpus rights honored. He was killed just on the say so of the state and media propaganda. We all believe he was a terrorist based solely on the say so of Obama and the lettered clandestine agencies. No right to trial, no right to face the evidence; Nothing. I guess that makes Obama WORSE than Trump, by far, doesn't it?

What do we know about it? No facts really, just the say so of the corporate media and the state, the same folks that are constructing the story for you now.

According to HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH;
https://www.hrw.org/news/2011/12/19/q-us-targeted-killings-and-international-law#11. Was the targeted killing of Anwar al-Awlaki in Yemen lawful?

". . . The United States may be engaged in an armed conflict in Yemen during which it would be permitted to target combatants. However, even if that were the case, the attack on Awlaki might not have been lawful because under the laws of war a “propagandist” is not a valid military target and attacking him on that basis would be prohibited. On the other hand, an individual actively involved in operational planning would be a valid military target – but not if he played an operational role only in the past. The US should make clear what information supported its rationale that Awlaki was playing an ongoing operational role in a battle zone and thus could be lawfully attacked.

The New York Times reported that the Obama administration considered the killing of Awlaki to be consistent with a legal opinion drafted in mid-2010 by the Office of Legal Counsel, the section of the Justice Department that provides legal advice to the executive branch. The administration should release the legal opinion, or otherwise disclose its analysis of the applicable international law in targeted killings and the manner by which individuals are determined to be lawful targets of attack. To date, the administration has refused to confirm or deny the existence of the legal opinion.. . . "

 

[MisterBeale]

When I see thread after thread at this forum, started by people like the OP of this one....I can't help but wonder where all the intelligent people have gone.

Notice -- these partisans just attack and never offer THEIR Mid East policy plans. I'd be floored if they did. Our mid east policy has sucked under BOTH parties for 35 years. Made the same mistake of either supporting DESPOTS and shotgun waving dictators, or DEPOSING them.

Which ones does BlackFlag like? OR -- is it possible, we should admit our failures and disasters in that region and leave them to destroy each other. Which is their normal historical state of affairs.

But don't CRY like a baby when the Shia or Sunni Caliphate is reconstituted ala the Ottoman Empire. That's the Arab end game.

Dictators and despots are REQUIRED in those countries to keep the blood flow down. We should recognize that.

Send me an alert if ANY of these opportunist leftist baby whiners has a coherent Mid East policy. I can't waste time watching partisans blame each other for the SAME FAILED SHIT decade after decade...

The shit fails because you need to get out of the Middle East altogether. Let them all kill each other. When there's no one left, the killing will end.

So you agree on this journalist? Why cry over spilled milk?

 

[WillowTree]

Should he attack the Saudi’s? Are ewe libtards wanting to go to war? When will ewe sign up?

Is that the only moronic action you can come up with? We have similar issues with allies before, and we have done something. Not gone to war. Now we have given authoritarians a green light to kill whomever with a check.

What did obamaturd dew to Libya? Did ewe complain? Moron? Dew speak!

 

[WillowTree]

Four Dead Americans! Come on libturds speak out!

 

[OKTexas]

Trump has taken "negotiating from a place of weakness" to a fine art form

He keeps talking about how badly we need the Saudis.

Bullshit. They need us more than we need them.

Their entire military is based on our weapons. That ,eams the supply chain and all the spare parts come from us. Unless they want to rebuild their entire military...they don't have the option to "switch".

He talks about oil....we are self sufficient. We don't NEED Saudi oil and if they raise prices...other nations will ramp up production. For a country so dependent (solely actually) that is a disaster.

Yeah, we're so oil independent we import more than 32 million barrels a month.

U.S. Total Crude Oil and Products Imports

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[Valerie]

Four Dead Americans! Come on libturds speak out!

let's pretend we didn't have thorough congressional hearings on BENGHAAAAAZI



poor pitiful weeping fraud willow, never grew out of playing make-pretend as a child

 

[Dragonlady]

Of a state he was an enemy of.

He was not an "enemy" he was a critic. Something that until recently wasn't a capital crime

---------------------------------- depends on how a foreign country , a different culture views things Lesh ,

Put it to you this way..

Putin had a lawyer murdered in a jail in Russia and we slapped sanctions on them.

MBS murders an American resident who is also an American journalist...and Trump excuses it and disrespects his own intel agencies.

So....

Those sanctions. What have they accomplished?

They've accomplished so much, that Vladimir Putin was willing to attempt to sabotage the US elections to get a President elected who would lift those sanctions. Reports out of Russia was that he was enraged when Congress and the Senate all but unanimously passed a Resolution to require their consent in order to lift sanctions. He expected Trump to lift sanctions as soon as he was inaugurated, as Flynn had promised the Russian Ambassador.

The Magnitsky Act also stopped the sale of Russian oil to the USA and its European allies, which, combined with dropping oil prices, has plunged the Russian economy in to recession and increased unemployment.

Last but not least, the sanctions are interfering with the Russian oligarchs' ability to travel to western countries to access their stolen billions or to launder money.

This is why Ms. Velnetskaya has been given a free hand and an unlimited budget to get these sanctions lifted.

 

[WillowTree]

Four Dead Americans! Come on libturds speak out!

let's pretend we didn't have thorough congressional hearings on BENGHAAAAAZI



poor pitiful weeping fraud willow, never grew out of playing make-pretend as a child

What did obamaturd dew to Libya was the question. Can you answer? Four dead Americans! Four!

 

[Correll]

They've accomplished so much, that Vladimir Putin was willing to attempt to sabotage the US elections to get a President elected who would lift those sanctions.

Cool mindreading. What number am I thinking of? Somewhere between 1 and 1,000,000.

Reports out of Russia was that he was enraged when Congress and the Senate all but unanimously passed a Resolution to require their consent in order to lift sanctions. He expected Trump to lift sanctions as soon as he was inaugurated, as Flynn had promised the Russian Ambassador.

Reasonable. He is the President of Russia, and the sanctions are hurting his citizens.

The Magnitsky Act also stopped the sale of Russian oil to the USA and its European allies, which, combined with dropping oil prices, has plunged the Russian economy in to recession and increased unemployment.

Cool, so we're hurting innocent Russian people.

Last but not least, the sanctions are interfering with the Russian oligarchs' ability to travel to western countries to access their stolen billions or to launder money.

Wow. What a major problem I am sure.

This is why Ms. Velnetskaya has been given a free hand and an unlimited budget to get these sanctions lifted.

So, you've caused some pain to the Russian people.


Wow[

 

[OKTexas]

Khashoggi really trash talked Mo Salman, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia. What did he expect when he went to visit Mr. Salman on his own turf? Did he expect to get a freaking medal?

He went to TURKEY...assuming that an action like this was out of bounds.

Not in the world of Trump however. Despots can do whatever they want

The dude died on Saudi soil and was a Saudi citizen. You can bitch and moan all you want, only the Saudis have jurisdiction over what happened there. There are limits on what the US can do, of course you commies want Trump to cut off our collective noses to spite our collective faces. Then you'd find something to bitch about that too.

.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Let me ask liberals this, what SHOULD he have done? What would OBAMA have done?

Trump does something, oh he's trying to start a war!!!
Trump does nothing, oh he's trying to appease the Saudis!!!

Can the man win?

 

[WillowTree]

Dew ewe remember we had a hearing on Benghazi?

 

[Lesh]

The dude died on Saudi soil and was a Saudi citizen. You can bitch and moan all you want, only the Saudis have jurisdiction over what happened there. There are limits on what the US can do, of course you commies want Trump to cut off our collective noses to spite our collective faces. Then you'd find something to bitch about that too.

Magnitsky died in a Russian JAIL