It just passed

Nah, it's more like, why should the government force me to buy a PRODUCT? A COMMODITY TO BE BOUGHT AND SOLD?!

That is an abominable assault on liberty.

Horseshit.

Do you have car insurance?

Does everyone pay for their own when they CHOOSE to own and drive a car? Stupid anaology.

well, they do now, but when the libtards get through whining about the "have nots" we the federal income tax payers will have to purchase their car insurance too,, they love their sugar tits.
 
What a great victory this is for America.

All the forces of darkness were arrayed against this, the Republicans, the corporate lobbyists, Fox Lies...

And yet it still passed.

Praise Jesus!

You really need to pay attention more, Big Pharm and Insurance companies are the big winners in this. They cut the deals with the Dems.

only for the short term. onloy for the short term.
 
yeah, damn those these for paying grandma and grand pa's medical and all those damn SS checks.

I bet people would rather pay for their own ailing parents, eh? Instead of pawning the old folks off on the guvment

That's ironic you would bring that up, when this bill flips the middle finger at grandma and grandpa's medical coverage...

GOP spin as fact?

:whip:

Fact: go try to purchase a Medicare Advantage plan.....Cannot be done. This Bill killed the entire plan. Why do you think AARP stopped advertising their Medicare Advantage program months ago? That's when they made their deal with the Dems.
 
Caterpillar, IL largest manufacturer employer, announced this bill will cost it $100 million. This will equate to heads rolling, or glup, another large US manufacturer going overseas!

I can't believe Caterpillar is the only one being hit by this. Many other like Corporation will also be hit hard.

The last thing we needed is a hit to the private sector, yet that is what we just got!

2nd UPDATE Caterpillar: Health Bill Would Cost Company $100M - WSJ.com

CHICAGO (Dow Jones)--Caterpillar Inc. (CAT) said the proposed overhaul of the U.S. health-care system could increase its costs by $100 million, signaling disquiet in corporate America about the controversial plan.

The heavy-equipment maker's concerns are focused on the potential loss of subsidies to prescription drug costs it covers for retired employees.

In a letter Thursday to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.) and House Republican Leader John Boehner (R., Ohio), Caterpillar urged lawmakers to vote against the plan "because of the substantial cost burdens it would place on ...
 
don't be fooled by that misnomer. the gubbmint will place such restrictions and rules and taxes on the insurance companies as to drive them out of business,, that's the end game, the public option,, everything they try to sell you in between now and the public option is pure lies.


That's not how I see it playing out. There are currently 1,300 health insurance companies across the U.S. Only 6 are allowed to "compete" in CA. CA has a very active insurance commissioner which provides a preview of Federal Coming Attractions.

The largest most well connected insurance companies will use the Federal Government to regulate out of existence the smaller, more cost effective competitors. Then these Large Behemoth Crony Companies, with the help of those who regulate them, will split up the U.S. into their protected territories, turning themselves into virtual public utilities.

They will collude with government to set a targets for profits and return on capital on a cost plus basis. The point will be to maintain the cost structure in order to generate predictable profits.

They will keep the cost of providing services to individuals under control by using regulators to periodically define down the standard of care so that they can keep a constant ratio of revenue to costs - leading to less service, longer wait times, and de facto rationing.
 
What a great victory this is for America.

All the forces of darkness were arrayed against this, the Republicans, the corporate lobbyists, Fox Lies...

And yet it still passed.

Praise Jesus!

You really need to pay attention more, Big Pharm and Insurance companies are the big winners in this. They cut the deals with the Dems.

only for the short term. onloy for the short term.

Exactly...it's only a matter of time before the government takes over the pharmaceutical industry and single payer becomes reality...I sure hope you fucking libtards are happy.
 
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What a great victory this is for America.

All the forces of darkness were arrayed against this, the Republicans, the corporate lobbyists, Fox Lies...

And yet it still passed.

Praise Jesus!

You forgot to add "The majority of the American people" in the "forces of darkness...arrayed against this" part.

Make no mistake. This bill was written and passed so that a minority of Americans could benefit from the money taken forcefully from the other majority of Americans.

Bullshit.

Every other industrialized nation in the world has national health insurance, and they pay HALF per capita what we pay for healthcare.

Unchecked capitalism destroyed our economy.

No. Liberals in control of the purse-strings did that.
 
Unchecked capitalism destroyed our economy.

Unchecked stupidity...such as yours...is destroying the United States of America.

Personal insults will never take the place of reasoned arguments.

You lose.

Wrong shit for brains...you lose....hope you like paying astronomical premiums for your healthcare for the forseeable future...

Oh wait....your a fucking loser who begged for a handout because you still live in your mommy's basement...
Your info has been forwarded to the IRS for fine collection. Have a nice day.
 

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