CDZ Isn't smaller governance better?

[kaz]

I think you may have me there! There probably are no instances of unlimited democracy recorded in history. So maybe there is no proof, whatsoever, that it would be a disaster. Maybe it would be awesome.


Is that what you're advocating for - democracy with no constitutional limitations? Do you think that would be a good idea?

Yes. I'd like to find out. This is the first time in history a large population could do it, via votes on the Internet (if secured).

I would want it localized, like the Electoral College is. Cities must not make laws for the country, or vice versa.

I'd like it to be localized in your neighborhood. I'm not giving up my rights to majority rule.

Tyranny of the majority isn't freedom. Power divided is power checked. Majority vote is two wolves and a sheep voting what to have for dinner

 

[kaz]

It is up to you to show it's not a worthwhile expenditure. Home schooled?

You must work in government or academia. No one else could be this stupid.

Why are you in the CDZ if you want to post insults? It's fine if you want to do that, you could just stay in the regular political forum

 

[kaz]

We hear about how Denmark, Sweden, etc. are the happiest nations. I don't know if that's true or not but, they are smaller populations. Is it possible that they do well because they are smaller?

For that matter, the smaller and closer to home is our governance, is it not better?

From what I can gather, the left typically likes to consolidate huge swathes of people and govern them from one, centralized government. But, as far as I can tell, government is better when it's smaller and more localized.

What say you?

I don't know about Denmark, but Sweden and Norway are tiny populations with huge land areas and massive energy reserves fueling their endless government giveaways. It makes it a whole lot easier than the rest of us who are being driven to bankruptcy by endless socialist spending

 

[sartre play]

Best government, works for the majority of the people ,& not just for them self's the wealthy. enough of party over country.

 

[kaz]

Best government, works for the majority of the people ,& not just for them self's the wealthy. enough of party over country.

Best government stays out of the way of the people

 

[rightwinger]

I prefer the right size government

As determined by We the People

 

[task0778]

If you ain't got the money, you shouldn't spend it. Good governance whatever it's size does not create debt and deficits that future generations are forced to pay for.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

“Isn't smaller governance better?”

This is as meaningless as asking if ‘god’ exists – there must first be consensus as to what constitutes ‘small government.’

 

[kaz]

“Isn't smaller governance better?”

This is as meaningless as asking if ‘god’ exists – there must first be consensus as to what constitutes ‘small government.’

To a degree, but clearly there is a bias towards whether someone wants government to solve all our problems and take responsibility for our lives as the left does or whether we tend to believe there should be no other options before we agree to have government remove our liberty as libertarians do. I don't know what Republicans believe. They don't seem to know either

 

[rightwinger]

“Isn't smaller governance better?”

This is as meaningless as asking if ‘god’ exists – there must first be consensus as to what constitutes ‘small government.’

To a degree, but clearly there is a bias towards whether someone wants government to solve all our problems and take responsibility for our lives as the left does or whether we tend to believe there should be no other options before we agree to have government remove our liberty as libertarians do. I don't know what Republicans believe. They don't seem to know either

We belong to a society
Government is our agent to implement that society

We achieve more as a group than as individuals. We the People decide what functions we want from our government

 

[dblack]

We belong to a society ...

but we don't 'belong' to a government.

Government is our agent to implement that society

No, it isn't. Government is our agent to defend our rights. Implementing society should remain a voluntary, cooperative endeavor - not by government mandate.

We achieve more as a group than as individuals.

That's true. Just keep it peaceful. No need to resort to violence if others don't want to go along with your plan.

We the People decide what functions we want from our government

We the People already decided that. We recorded the results of our decision in the Constitution. If we want to modify it, we have to revisit the document.

 

[rightwinger]

We belong to a society ...

but we don't 'belong' to a government.

Government is our agent to implement that society

No, it isn't. Government is our agent to defend our rights. Implementing society should remain a voluntary, cooperative endeavor - not by government mandate.

We achieve more as a group than as individuals.

That's true. Just keep it peaceful. No need to resort to violence if others don't want to go along with your plan.

We the People decide what functions we want from our government

We the People already decided that. We recorded the results of our decision in the Constitution. If we want to modify it, we have to revisit the document.

The government is We the People

We created it to form a more perfect union

 

[dblack]

We belong to a society ...

but we don't 'belong' to a government.

Government is our agent to implement that society

No, it isn't. Government is our agent to defend our rights. Implementing society should remain a voluntary, cooperative endeavor - not by government mandate.

We achieve more as a group than as individuals.

That's true. Just keep it peaceful. No need to resort to violence if others don't want to go along with your plan.

We the People decide what functions we want from our government

We the People already decided that. We recorded the results of our decision in the Constitution. If we want to modify it, we have to revisit the document.

The government is We the People

No, it isn't. Its the servant of the people.

We created it to form a more perfect union

Your holy scripts are failing you.

 

[rightwinger]

We belong to a society ...

but we don't 'belong' to a government.

Government is our agent to implement that society

No, it isn't. Government is our agent to defend our rights. Implementing society should remain a voluntary, cooperative endeavor - not by government mandate.

We achieve more as a group than as individuals.

That's true. Just keep it peaceful. No need to resort to violence if others don't want to go along with your plan.

We the People decide what functions we want from our government

We the People already decided that. We recorded the results of our decision in the Constitution. If we want to modify it, we have to revisit the document.

The government is We the People

No, it isn't. Its the servant of the people.

We created it to form a more perfect union

Your holy scripts are failing you.

Read your Constitution

A government of the people, by the people and FOR the people

 

[Wry Catcher]

We hear about how Denmark, Sweden, etc. are the happiest nations. I don't know if that's true or not but, they are smaller populations. Is it possible that they do well because they are smaller?

For that matter, the smaller and closer to home is our governance, is it not better?

From what I can gather, the left typically likes to consolidate huge swathes of people and govern them from one, centralized government. But, as far as I can tell, government is better when it's smaller and more localized.

What say you?

I'd rather six fire fighters show up when my house is in flames, than one.

 

[rightwinger]

We hear about how Denmark, Sweden, etc. are the happiest nations. I don't know if that's true or not but, they are smaller populations. Is it possible that they do well because they are smaller?

For that matter, the smaller and closer to home is our governance, is it not better?

From what I can gather, the left typically likes to consolidate huge swathes of people and govern them from one, centralized government. But, as far as I can tell, government is better when it's smaller and more localized.

What say you?

I'd rather six fire fighters show up when my house is in flames, than one.

Fire Departments are socialist

 

[Wry Catcher]

We hear about how Denmark, Sweden, etc. are the happiest nations. I don't know if that's true or not but, they are smaller populations. Is it possible that they do well because they are smaller?

For that matter, the smaller and closer to home is our governance, is it not better?

From what I can gather, the left typically likes to consolidate huge swathes of people and govern them from one, centralized government. But, as far as I can tell, government is better when it's smaller and more localized.

What say you?

I'd rather six fire fighters show up when my house is in flames, than one.

Fire Departments are socialist

I think most of the Trump supporters and fellow travelers voting for the GOP believe all government employees, except those in the Military, are an example of the first step on the slippery slope toward Marxism, and that Marxism is the goal of all liberals, progressives and the Democratic Party.

Their evidence is clear and never convincing, and emanates from the words of Limbaugh, Hannity, Alex Jones and the Fox Entertainment News Shows.

 

[rightwinger]

We hear about how Denmark, Sweden, etc. are the happiest nations. I don't know if that's true or not but, they are smaller populations. Is it possible that they do well because they are smaller?

For that matter, the smaller and closer to home is our governance, is it not better?

From what I can gather, the left typically likes to consolidate huge swathes of people and govern them from one, centralized government. But, as far as I can tell, government is better when it's smaller and more localized.

What say you?

I'd rather six fire fighters show up when my house is in flames, than one.

Fire Departments are socialist

I think most of the Trump supporters and fellow travelers voting for the GOP believe all government employees, except those in the Military, are an example of the first step on the slippery slope toward Marxism, and that Marxism is the goal of all liberals, progressives and the Democratic Party.

Their evidence is clear and never convincing, and emanates from the words of Limbaugh, Hannity, Alex Jones and the Fox Entertainment News Shows.

Yet, somehow
Republicans never seem to cut employees and budgets only increase

 

[kaz]

We hear about how Denmark, Sweden, etc. are the happiest nations. I don't know if that's true or not but, they are smaller populations. Is it possible that they do well because they are smaller?

For that matter, the smaller and closer to home is our governance, is it not better?

From what I can gather, the left typically likes to consolidate huge swathes of people and govern them from one, centralized government. But, as far as I can tell, government is better when it's smaller and more localized.

What say you?

I'd rather six fire fighters show up when my house is in flames, than one.

Fire Departments are socialist

I think most of the Trump supporters and fellow travelers voting for the GOP believe all government employees, except those in the Military, are an example of the first step on the slippery slope toward Marxism, and that Marxism is the goal of all liberals, progressives and the Democratic Party.

Their evidence is clear and never convincing, and emanates from the words of Limbaugh, Hannity, Alex Jones and the Fox Entertainment News Shows.

I'm sure you do believe that. But back to reality, it depends what they do. There are other examples of legitimate government besides the military. And being military doesn't make it automatically legitimate. We have way too big a military that is way over involved in the world's affairs

 

[rightwinger]

We are the largest and most powerful country in the history of mankind

We need a large government