CDZ Isn't smaller governance better?

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    We hear about how Denmark, Sweden, etc. are the happiest nations. I don't know if that's true or not but, they are smaller populations. Is it possible that they do well because they are smaller?

    For that matter, the smaller and closer to home is our governance, is it not better?

    From what I can gather, the left typically likes to consolidate huge swathes of people and govern them from one, centralized government. But, as far as I can tell, government is better when it's smaller and more localized.

    What say you?
     
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    It is for exactly that reason that the great men who founded this nation wisely set it up with a fairly minimal central government, leaving the vast majority of governance to states or localities.
     
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    Well, may I suggest we ask them WHY they are happy?

    Denmark:
    Salie asked, “How can we be as happy as you guys?”

    “I think it’s the welfare state,” Wiking replied. “It is focusing on reducing extreme unhappiness, and investing in public goods that create quality of life for all.”

    “If you asks Danes, ‘Are you happily paying your tax?’ Eight out of ten will say, ‘Yes, to some degree I’m happily paying my tax,’” Wiking said. “And I think that’s because people are aware of the huge benefits they get in terms of quality of life.”

    “Basically, social mobility is high because the obstacles are very, very low,” he said. “You’re really given the basics for a good, healthy, productive life.”

    “Family life balance is phenomenally better than it would be back in the U.S.,” she told Salie. “The Danes, they leave work at five o’clock and they’re home for dinner by 5:30, so Richard is home for dinner every single night. We both agree that it’s probably the best decision that we’ve made as a family.”
     
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    Dude. Please. This is hardly the place for reality.
     
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    So after the constitution of the first confederation didn't bestow enough power on the federal government you had to rewrite the constitution to form a more perfect union and then you had to have a civil war to fix those mistakes.

    Yeah, wise.
     
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    “…the left typically likes to consolidate huge swathes of people and govern them from one, centralized government.”

    Incorrect.

    Liberals are pragmatists, they believe the best government is government that works best, regardless its size: local governments are best suited to serve the needs of the people of local jurisdictions; a larger national government is best suited to address foreign relations, provide for the national defense, and to act as a valuable resource for smaller local governments.

    Consequently, the thread premise fails as a false dilemma fallacy, as neither larger government nor smaller government is ‘better.’
     
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    The DoED is one example of leftist ideology on governance. I think education would be better if this federal bureaucracy did not exist. Can you demonstrate how federalizing education is BETTER than it was before?
     
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    I thought the "clean debate zone" was supposed to be free of idiotic rhetoric and flaming.
     
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    How you feel on this issue is based on which of these statements you believe is most true ...

    1. Government causes more problems than it solves

    Or

    2. Government solves more problems than it creates.
     
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    Of course, Somalia has 'small government', and I don't think it's working for them.
     
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