Is the "free stuff" remark fair to Sanders?

nat4900

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Many of us have learned on this forum that to expect right wingers to be "fair and balanced" (love that Fox slogan) is a fool's errand......Nonetheless, is it really fair to simply state that Sanders is offering "free stuff" without any plan as to how to finance the largess .....or is it just partisan bullshit?

Right wingers may strongly disagree with Sanders about a Medicare for all plan regarding health care insurance, but to be fair, he has stated that indeed a tax would be imposed on individuals and families, but the return on the savings (which would basically screw over PRIVATE health insurers) would be substantial. We may think of ourselves as "exceptional", but such HC deliveries have existed in other industrialized countries for decades and to say that we could not do the same is an admission that we may be far from exceptional.

Second, the "free stuff" regarding college tuition has also been addressed by Sanders....Primarily his source of income would be generated from taxing the gambling speculations of Wall Streeters....but more important is Sanders' reasoning that a college degree in the 21st century is the equivalent of a HS diploma and that we have long made high school attendance both mandatory and free.

You may not agree with Sanders....but at least stick to your proper reasons for the disagreement.
 
I don't care how hard you fuckers have to work for my free college Archaeology degree. It's been a dream of mine since forever, and now thanks to Bernie, it's FREE! And you Progs are going to pay for it!

Sa-weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!
 
Many of us have learned on this forum that to expect right wingers to be "fair and balanced" (love that Fox slogan) is a fool's errand......Nonetheless, is it really fair to simply state that Sanders is offering "free stuff" without any plan as to how to finance the largess .....or is it just partisan bullshit?

Right wingers may strongly disagree with Sanders about a Medicare for all plan regarding health care insurance, but to be fair, he has stated that indeed a tax would be imposed on individuals and families, but the return on the savings (which would basically screw over PRIVATE health insurers) would be substantial. We may think of ourselves as "exceptional", but such HC deliveries have existed in other industrialized countries for decades and to say that we could not do the same is an admission that we may be far from exceptional.

Second, the "free stuff" regarding college tuition has also been addressed by Sanders....Primarily his source of income would be generated from taxing the gambling speculations of Wall Streeters....but more important is Sanders' reasoning that a college degree in the 21st century is the equivalent of a HS diploma and that we have long made high school attendance both mandatory and free.

You may not agree with Sanders....but at least stick to your proper reasons for the disagreement.

We mock the fact that he gets you rubes to think this stuff is "free" when we will all end up paying for it, and more than you think because every time some progressive comes up with an idea, government has to create giant bureaucracies to run it, and the overhead on that becomes a significant cost.

In the end we all end up paying for it, even if you just tax "evil" oil companies, wall street firms, and banks, because those people will ALWAYS make their money, and they will find ways to pass any extra costs right down to our level.
 
Many of us have learned on this forum that to expect right wingers to be "fair and balanced" (love that Fox slogan) is a fool's errand......Nonetheless, is it really fair to simply state that Sanders is offering "free stuff" without any plan as to how to finance the largess .....or is it just partisan bullshit?

Right wingers may strongly disagree with Sanders about a Medicare for all plan regarding health care insurance, but to be fair, he has stated that indeed a tax would be imposed on individuals and families, but the return on the savings (which would basically screw over PRIVATE health insurers) would be substantial. We may think of ourselves as "exceptional", but such HC deliveries have existed in other industrialized countries for decades and to say that we could not do the same is an admission that we may be far from exceptional.

Second, the "free stuff" regarding college tuition has also been addressed by Sanders....Primarily his source of income would be generated from taxing the gambling speculations of Wall Streeters....but more important is Sanders' reasoning that a college degree in the 21st century is the equivalent of a HS diploma and that we have long made high school attendance both mandatory and free.

You may not agree with Sanders....but at least stick to your proper reasons for the disagreement.
Free stuff?? Like having a wall built for free by a foreign nation?
 
The sooner the left (and Sanders) realizes there is no such thing as "free stuff" the sooner the reality of Sander's pie in the sky BS will come crumbling down
 
Is it fair? What else is there to socialism besides promising "free stuff"?

Socialism fixes what capitalism fucks up.
And capitalism fixes what socialism fucks up.
Socialism is an abstract failure. Good luck proving otherwise.
Capitalism has never fucked up?? You sticking with that notion?


Capitalism works. Socialism has repeatedly been thrown on the trash heap. People never learn.
 
Is it fair? What else is there to socialism besides promising "free stuff"?

Socialism fixes what capitalism fucks up.
And capitalism fixes what socialism fucks up.
Socialism is an abstract failure. Good luck proving otherwise.
Capitalism has never fucked up?? You sticking with that notion?
Is it fair? What else is there to socialism besides promising "free stuff"?

Socialism fixes what capitalism fucks up.
Yeah just look how well socialism worked out for the Soviet Union, Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea and Laos. :rolleyes:

Socialism: The complete fucking idiots economic system of choice.

Neither socialism nor capitalism are all or nothing systems.
 
Is it fair? What else is there to socialism besides promising "free stuff"?

Socialism fixes what capitalism fucks up.
And capitalism fixes what socialism fucks up.
Socialism is an abstract failure. Good luck proving otherwise.
Capitalism has never fucked up?? You sticking with that notion?


Capitalism works. Socialism has repeatedly been thrown on the trash heap. People never learn.
I can't understand why God uses it in Heaven...
 
Is it fair? What else is there to socialism besides promising "free stuff"?

Socialism fixes what capitalism fucks up.
And capitalism fixes what socialism fucks up.
Socialism is an abstract failure. Good luck proving otherwise.
Capitalism has never fucked up?? You sticking with that notion?
Gawd no. I will be the first to say unregulated capitalism is a shit show.
 

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