Is the "free stuff" remark fair to Sanders?

[NYcarbineer]

No, it doesn't. Govt didn't earn that money so they, in essence, have no accountability of how that money was earned. Naturally, the money gets wasted.

Here is total waste on money

Cost of War in Iraq & Afghanistan
$1,669,362,982,980

I agree. We can also add 15 trillion wasted on welfare.

If we end Medicaid and public education tomorrow,

how much better will America be, and how soon?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Is it fair? What else is there to socialism besides promising "free stuff"?

Socialism fixes what capitalism fucks up.

Yeah! There's was an abundance of toilet paper in Venezuela until you Socialist Fruit Cakes fixed that

 

[TNHarley]

Is it fair? What else is there to socialism besides promising "free stuff"?

Socialism fixes what capitalism fucks up.

And capitalism fixes what socialism fucks up.
Socialism is an abstract failure. Good luck proving otherwise.

What's an abstract failure? Define it and include examples.

Look at actual socialist countries(past and present) and tell me you think it is good what they do.
The government gets too much power. Like moon said, people suck.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Is it fair? What else is there to socialism besides promising "free stuff"?

Socialism fixes what capitalism fucks up.

And capitalism fixes what socialism fucks up.
Socialism is an abstract failure. Good luck proving otherwise.

Capitalism has never fucked up?? You sticking with that notion?

Capitalism works. Socialism has repeatedly been thrown on the trash heap. People never learn.

People learn that capitalism won't look out for them if it doesn't have to.

You're implying that government does look out for us. Now that's hilarious.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

No, it doesn't. Govt didn't earn that money so they, in essence, have no accountability of how that money was earned. Naturally, the money gets wasted.

Here is total waste on money

Cost of War in Iraq & Afghanistan
$1,669,362,982,980

I agree. We can also add 15 trillion wasted on welfare.

sure you are always railing against the Pentagon LOL ...welfare at least benefits s Americans.

 

[Indeependent]

Socialism fixes what capitalism fucks up.

And capitalism fixes what socialism fucks up.
Socialism is an abstract failure. Good luck proving otherwise.

Capitalism has never fucked up?? You sticking with that notion?

Capitalism works. Socialism has repeatedly been thrown on the trash heap. People never learn.

People learn that capitalism won't look out for them if it doesn't have to.

You're implying that government does look out for us. Now that's hilarious.

Are you implying that CEOs love their underlings?

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

If he wanted dictatorship he wouldnt have given us free will.

I think you are upset there is a Negro President...LOL

 

[bendog]

the vast majority of us who earned professional degrees, work, pay our taxes and raise kids benefited from public education, so yeah in some instance the gummit really has looked out for us.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

No, it doesn't. Govt didn't earn that money so they, in essence, have no accountability of how that money was earned. Naturally, the money gets wasted.

Here is total waste on money

Cost of War in Iraq & Afghanistan
$1,669,362,982,980

I agree. We can also add 15 trillion wasted on welfare.

sure you are always railing against the Pentagon LOL ...welfare at least benefits s Americans.

I've stated numerous times that Ive always been against the iraq and vietnam wars.

 

[Moonglow]

If he wanted dictatorship he wouldnt have given us free will.

I think you are upset there is a Negro President...LOL

At least God is white..

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

At least God is white..

and so is Santa for that matter and Santa gives the free stuff........

 

[LordBrownTrout]

If he wanted dictatorship he wouldnt have given us free will.

I think you are upset there is a Negro President...LOL

You brought up color, not I and that isn't the reason why he is such a worthless leader.

 

[bendog]

the vast majority of us who earned professional degrees, work, pay our taxes and raise kids benefited from public education, so yeah in some instance the gummit really has looked out for us.

But, yes, the Bern is offering free shit the masses can tax the "rich" to get without work.

 

[Moonglow]

the vast majority of us who earned professional degrees, work, pay our taxes and raise kids benefited from public education, so yeah in some instance the gummit really has looked out for us.

And they got rid of yard darts..

 

[jillian]

Many of us have learned on this forum that to expect right wingers to be "fair and balanced" (love that Fox slogan) is a fool's errand......Nonetheless, is it really fair to simply state that Sanders is offering "free stuff" without any plan as to how to finance the largess .....or is it just partisan bullshit?

Right wingers may strongly disagree with Sanders about a Medicare for all plan regarding health care insurance, but to be fair, he has stated that indeed a tax would be imposed on individuals and families, but the return on the savings (which would basically screw over PRIVATE health insurers) would be substantial. We may think of ourselves as "exceptional", but such HC deliveries have existed in other industrialized countries for decades and to say that we could not do the same is an admission that we may be far from exceptional.

Second, the "free stuff" regarding college tuition has also been addressed by Sanders....Primarily his source of income would be generated from taxing the gambling speculations of Wall Streeters....but more important is Sanders' reasoning that a college degree in the 21st century is the equivalent of a HS diploma and that we have long made high school attendance both mandatory and free.

You may not agree with Sanders....but at least stick to your proper reasons for the disagreement.

you know it isn't a fair assessment. but that's never stopped the RWNJ's.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

If he wanted dictatorship he wouldnt have given us free will.

I think you are upset there is a Negro President...LOL

You brought up color, not I and that isn't the reason why he is such a worthless leader.

you do realize you are a phony asshole who is not referring to Bush when you talk about a "dictatorship" LOL you are talking "of the Negro POTUS" fuck you moron you are not fooling anyone

 

[NYcarbineer]

Really? When did elections end?

As soon as you partisan lemmings started running the joint; we don't have elections anymore we have bread and circuses smothered in the illusion of choice.

lol, you nuts on the right can't win elections boohoo.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

This Lord Brown fuck face sure is a phony one lol he loves the "Dictatorship" under the GOP

 

[NYcarbineer]

Free stuff?

Two wars and two tax cuts.

 

[oreo]

Many of us have learned on this forum that to expect right wingers to be "fair and balanced" (love that Fox slogan) is a fool's errand......Nonetheless, is it really fair to simply state that Sanders is offering "free stuff" without any plan as to how to finance the largess .....or is it just partisan bullshit?

Right wingers may strongly disagree with Sanders about a Medicare for all plan regarding health care insurance, but to be fair, he has stated that indeed a tax would be imposed on individuals and families, but the return on the savings (which would basically screw over PRIVATE health insurers) would be substantial. We may think of ourselves as "exceptional", but such HC deliveries have existed in other industrialized countries for decades and to say that we could not do the same is an admission that we may be far from exceptional.

Second, the "free stuff" regarding college tuition has also been addressed by Sanders....Primarily his source of income would be generated from taxing the gambling speculations of Wall Streeters....but more important is Sanders' reasoning that a college degree in the 21st century is the equivalent of a HS diploma and that we have long made high school attendance both mandatory and free.

You may not agree with Sanders....but at least stick to your proper reasons for the disagreement.

I watched the PBS debate 2/11/2016, and I swear there were several times--that Sanders looked like he was going to pass out, or have a heart attack. He's older than dirt. He's really not in that good shape for being 75 years old. John McCain running against Obama at 81 years old was really in much better shape and he survived 7 years of torture. Bernie Sanders looks like a 100 miles of bad road.

Anyway Hillary Clinton buried the old fart tonight. I learned tonight that Sanders is just another canned speech politician. When he was asked specific questions about foreign policy--he would revert back to his canned speech. Free college tuition, Wall Street, etc. etc. etc.

When Hillary was responding to a question his long arms were flying all over the place--those fingers were going a 100 miles an hour. His blood pressure must have gone to 300--he would get real red faced--coughing--wheezing--and once he caught his breath it was time to give another memorized canned speech.

WTF-- how could anyone take this guy serious enough to be our next POTUS. Really!!!! She nailed him on several things, his prior voting record, and the final nail in his coffin, when she brought up that Sanders had called for Obama to be challenged for the DNC nomination in 2012. Man did face go beserk then. His face went bright red--and I thought that was it fer the old fella. He tried to say that he was "friends" with Obama--but no friend would do that--LOL

Of course, Sanders was never a Democrat, he was the "Liberty Party" aka Socialist Party--then switched to Independent, and recently changed to Democrat to run for the Presidency.

Hillary Clinton will be the nominee of this party.

If Sanders wants to do more debates they need paramedics, with stretcher and life saving equipment on the stage with him.