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Using the term "function" loosely. Though, claiming the economy currently functions only occurs with people who haven't checked the Labor Force Participation Rate, and Missing Worker Rate. Socialism is destroying the economy.What is uninformed about his answer? We do run on a blend of socialism and capitalism.
The Too Big Too Fail Banks and the poor operate on socialism and the rest of us work under capitalism, more or less.
Dont know that it is socialism that is causing jobs to get exported or letting in millions of black market laborers to suppress working wages.Using the term "function" loosely. Though, claiming the economy currently functions only occurs with people who haven't checked the Labor Force Participation Rate, and Missing Worker Rate. Socialism is destroying the economy.What is uninformed about his answer? We do run on a blend of socialism and capitalism.
The Too Big Too Fail Banks and the poor operate on socialism and the rest of us work under capitalism, more or less.
That's partly the Obamacare(Check the Labor Force Participation directly after it was rammed through), in the south it's the illegals jumping the border and taking the entrance level jobs, and the executive orders passed by Obama to regulate businesses. He's making it a less business-friendly place, so other countries are looking better, and they're moving there.Dont know that it is socialism that is causing jobs to get exported or letting in millions of black market laborers to suppress working wages.
OK, I see where you are going with it, but I am not sure that this is anything more than just poorly performing government bureaucracy as opposed to socialist theory.That's partly the Obamacare(Check the Labor Force Participation directly after it was rammed through), in the south it's the illegals jumping the border and taking the entrance level jobs, and the executive orders passed by Obama to regulate businesses. He's making it a less business-friendly place, so other countries are looking better, and they're moving there.Dont know that it is socialism that is causing jobs to get exported or letting in millions of black market laborers to suppress working wages.
Government owning businesses is part of socialist policy, businesses won't just hang out and let someone else control them. Well, there's the tax on workers once you employ a specific number of people, forcing benefits for employees on a certain number of hours, and now there's overtime executive order gone into effect recently. There's the regulations on the coal industry, which is causing them to drop workers.OK, I see where you are going with it, but I am not sure that this is anything more than just poorly performing government bureaucracy as opposed to socialist theory.
Dont know that it is socialism that is causing jobs to get exported or letting in millions of black market laborers to suppress working wages.
Socialism for the top 1% has been so wildly successful ever since Lincoln and the Republicans imposed it on the nation that it's only natural for the other 99% to want it for themselves, so why not? they've made it look pretty good. Big business likes it; just look at the amount of investment they've poured into Red China, viet Nam, Mexico, and other socialist countries.
Dont know that it is socialism that is causing jobs to get exported or letting in millions of black market laborers to suppress working wages.Using the term "function" loosely. Though, claiming the economy currently functions only occurs with people who haven't checked the Labor Force Participation Rate, and Missing Worker Rate. Socialism is destroying the economy.What is uninformed about his answer? We do run on a blend of socialism and capitalism.
The Too Big Too Fail Banks and the poor operate on socialism and the rest of us work under capitalism, more or less.
Government owning businesses is part of socialist policy, businesses won't just hang out and let someone else control them. Well, there's the tax on workers once you employ a specific number of people, forcing benefits for employees on a certain number of hours, and now there's overtime executive order gone into effect recently. There's the regulations on the coal industry, which is causing them to drop workers.OK, I see where you are going with it, but I am not sure that this is anything more than just poorly performing government bureaucracy as opposed to socialist theory.
How Obamacare Increases Unemployment | Manhattan Institute
This link explains part of it pretty well.
Guess you guys should stop letting illegals in, huh? Well, can't blame the Liberals entirely, the establishment Republicans love illegals, too. Also a reason Worker Visas are a stupid idea. You're wrong that it's just some excuse, because business regulation and high business taxes destroy the economy, but you're right that the establishment buys politicians to make things easier for most successful businesses. The regulations and massive tax rates cripple the non-establishment businesses specifically.It isn't; that's just the hand waves and excuses labor racketeers make for taking their factories overseas to police states and dictatorships, while importing cheap easily exploited and abused illegals to collapse the social safety net and wages locally, and buying massive subsidies and tax avoidance legislation from your friendly and obliging Congressman.
No, this is outright false, no business "relies on Food Stamps". Food Stamps may even be a reason for wages dropping, because AGAIN, businesses have to keep wages 'livable' in order to sell their products and services. Giving out Food Stamps would allow them to lower their wages more, while selling the same amount. If the government didn't steal money from people for this program in the first place, and a lot of other worthless programs, wages would be higher for everyone, and taxes would be lower. There's no reliance on it, just awareness. Right now, we have 160 Federal Government Agencies, most of which we don't need. This isn't even counting all the worthless programs for redistributing wealth and giving out free stuff to lazy people.Whether businesses own the govt. or the govt. owns the businesses is a distinction without a difference for the 99%'ers as far as consequences go. Wal-Mart and many other businesses rely on food stamps and other programs to keep their employees fed, and somewhat cared fro medically, for instance. It helps keep wages low and discontent from breaking out into open street warfare and the costs of damage from riots and looting down for the insurance business among others.
Using the term "in need" very loosely, because the vast majority of people on Food Stamps, Welfare, and Unemployment have widescreen TVs and eat TV Dinners that you just throw in the microwave. My 'parents' got by with far less than those people when they first struck out on their own, they ate beans and rice because it was the cheapest things they could find, had no bed, had no couch, had no TV. They slept on the floor, they walked to work, they earned their money by working hard any way they could. People today aren't 'in need', people in other countries live in mud houses, bathe in creeks, and and are starving to death. Nobody in this country should be considered needy unless they are physically incapable of working ANY job.A large part of the US military is a socialist program. Back in the day when JFK was prez, we had a draft. My choice was to get drafted into the Army or enlist in some other branch of service. I chose the Navy, and I ended up helping to make the world a safer place for corporate America to operate in, in places of the world where it wouldn't have been safe for them to do business otherwise. This includes the shipping lanes I helped keep safe for oil companies who brought their product here. Lots of servicemen in the last fifteen years have given their lives for corporate America in the middle east. Shouldn't the oil companies give military guys who protected the middle east, a discount for gas at the pump? Say 20%? Hell no they say. This is all about profit for our shareholders and CEO's. And if we can avoid paying taxes at all, which we do in many years, so be it.
You could say yeah, but we needed oil from the middle east to run our country. And I could say yeah, then let those service guys that helped make all of it possible, share in the profits. Socialism for the rich, and we only hear bellyaching when an ordinary citizen in need gets help from the government.
Between Kshama Sawant's reelection to the Seattle council and the phenomenal popularity of the Sanders campaign it seems many in the U.S. electorate are now more opened minded to the idea of overtly socialists candidates. What can we expect in the future? Also there seems to be some dispute over what socialism is. Some might define it as state control over production and distribution while others describe it as either social or workers' control. Whichever, how do you define it and what developments do you expect for the future?
George Orwell gave his own first-hand observation of socialism in action during the Spanish Civil War description:
"I had dropped more or less by chance into the only community of any size in Western Europe where political consciousness and disbelief in capitalism were more normal than their opposites. Up here in Aragon one was among tens of thousands of people, mainly though not entirely of working-class origin, all living at the same level and mingling on terms of equality. In theory it was perfect equality, and even in practice it was not far from it. There is a sense in which it would be true to say that one was experiencing a foretaste of Socialism, by which I mean that the prevailing mental atmosphere was that of Socialism. Many of the normal motives of civilized life-snobbishness, money-grubbing, fear of the boss, etc.-had simply ceased to exist. The ordinary class-division of society had disappeared to an extent that is almost unthinkable in the money-tainted air of England; there was no one there except the peasants and ourselves, and no one owned anyone else as his master...One had breathed the air of equality. I am well aware that it is now the fashion to deny that Socialism has anything to do with equality. In every country in the world a huge tribe of party-hacks and sleek little professors are busy 'proving' that Socialism means no more than a planned state-capitalism with the grab-motive left intact. But fortunately there also exists a vision of Socialism quite different from this." George Orwell - Homage to Catalonia
Using the term "in need" very loosely, because the vast majority of people on Food Stamps, Welfare, and Unemployment have widescreen TVs and eat TV Dinners that you just throw in the microwave. My 'parents' got by with far less than those people when they first struck out on their own, they ate beans and rice because it was the cheapest things they could find, had no bed, had no couch, had no TV. They slept on the floor, they walked to work, they earned their money by working hard any way they could. People today aren't 'in need', people in other countries live in mud houses, bathe in creeks, and and are starving to death. Nobody in this country should be considered needy unless they are physically incapable of working ANY job.A large part of the US military is a socialist program. Back in the day when JFK was prez, we had a draft. My choice was to get drafted into the Army or enlist in some other branch of service. I chose the Navy, and I ended up helping to make the world a safer place for corporate America to operate in, in places of the world where it wouldn't have been safe for them to do business otherwise. This includes the shipping lanes I helped keep safe for oil companies who brought their product here. Lots of servicemen in the last fifteen years have given their lives for corporate America in the middle east. Shouldn't the oil companies give military guys who protected the middle east, a discount for gas at the pump? Say 20%? Hell no they say. This is all about profit for our shareholders and CEO's. And if we can avoid paying taxes at all, which we do in many years, so be it.
You could say yeah, but we needed oil from the middle east to run our country. And I could say yeah, then let those service guys that helped make all of it possible, share in the profits. Socialism for the rich, and we only hear bellyaching when an ordinary citizen in need gets help from the government.
As far as oil is concerned, especially with the way the Liberals have been fighting against them, I highly doubt they could afford a 20% discount, but I think that every store and every restaurant should have a military discount, for the men and women who've fought for this country. Of course, if we could drill over here, or frack, or build pipelines, maybe it would be a different story, but Liberals don't like lower gas prices.
Got any citations for all of this, or is it more right-wing Facebook posts you're passing along as fact?
Actually, my parents won't let me have a Facebook account~
Got any citations for all of this, or is it more right-wing Facebook posts you're passing along as fact?
Mostly from personal experience, meeting people like that. I've VERY rarely encountered a truly poor person. Interestingly, the people I've met that are truly poor have actually gone to.. you know, I actually forgot the name of the place, but it's for helping poor people dress-up and write a resume, then they actually get interviews on their behalf.. anyway, people who are ACTUALLY in a bad place more often try to get a job than become a sponge and soak up socialist government programs. You know that saying? Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. "Teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime".
Anyway, statistics I could find: http://www.slate.com/content/dam/sl...re_recips_1.png.CROP.promovar-mediumlarge.png
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I'm actually curious what state these were taken in, because that makes a huge difference. You'd think if they were poor, they wouldn't spend anything on entertainment, and would buy less expensive food.That's also a lot of money spent on transportation, too. Also curious what "other" is.
Between Kshama Sawant's reelection to the Seattle council and the phenomenal popularity of the Sanders campaign it seems many in the U.S. electorate are now more opened minded to the idea of overtly socialists candidates. What can we expect in the future? Also there seems to be some dispute over what socialism is. Some might define it as state control over production and distribution while others describe it as either social or workers' control. Whichever, how do you define it and what developments do you expect for the future?
George Orwell gave his own first-hand observation of socialism in action during the Spanish Civil War description:
"I had dropped more or less by chance into the only community of any size in Western Europe where political consciousness and disbelief in capitalism were more normal than their opposites. Up here in Aragon one was among tens of thousands of people, mainly though not entirely of working-class origin, all living at the same level and mingling on terms of equality. In theory it was perfect equality, and even in practice it was not far from it. There is a sense in which it would be true to say that one was experiencing a foretaste of Socialism, by which I mean that the prevailing mental atmosphere was that of Socialism. Many of the normal motives of civilized life-snobbishness, money-grubbing, fear of the boss, etc.-had simply ceased to exist. The ordinary class-division of society had disappeared to an extent that is almost unthinkable in the money-tainted air of England; there was no one there except the peasants and ourselves, and no one owned anyone else as his master...One had breathed the air of equality. I am well aware that it is now the fashion to deny that Socialism has anything to do with equality. In every country in the world a huge tribe of party-hacks and sleek little professors are busy 'proving' that Socialism means no more than a planned state-capitalism with the grab-motive left intact. But fortunately there also exists a vision of Socialism quite different from this." George Orwell - Homage to Catalonia
Bernie Sanders candidacy has been transformative, for one simple and obvious reason: The leadership and majority in The Congress has ignored the plight of the American citizenry. Every effort to provide a fair deal to the majority of Americans has been road blocked by The Congress, labeled Socialism (or, communism, statism, Marxism) and tyranny by a power elite, which has created the most unequal division of wealth since the Gilded Age.
Anyone who has done genealogical research, looked at voter registration and the Census, and absorbed the history of the labor movement understands the Conservative Movement has not learned from history.
I see, so you're an adult, guessing about life. It's okay, still not the first person I've met that thinks they're wise just because they're old.I see, so you're a child who is guessing about life, and has met hardly any poor people.
I could say the same to you. Spreading the misconception that people need money to be redistributed by the government, rather than help getting a job, if even that.They should similarly restrict your access to message boards, frankly, because you're quite good at spreading misinformation and falsehoods.
60$ for food is a lot, where do you shop? I'd say California, but that's even more expensive... maybe New York? It must be a Democrat-run state, because those do tend to have REALLY high cost of living, given the unreasonable numbers you're throwing around.Just because someone can afford $60 per month for a cell phone (a necessity these days) doesn't mean they have the $500 or so it takes just to pay for food, clothing, and personal care for an average person, per month, or the $1500+ it takes for a family of 4.
My parents don't pay any attention to politics, I've studied politics mostly independently. Your version of "assistance" doesn't actually assist people, it just makes them government reliant. They need jobs, not to suck hint tit off the government, as you'd have everyone do. Truly poor people ask for work, lazy people ask for money and food. You sound exactly like every Liberal ever, just assuming that everyone is incapable of helping themselves, claiming that businesses are somehow to blame for our pitiful excuse for poverty, then attacking those businesses, decreasing the amount of jobs we have, then redistributing money from said businesses, causing cost of living to rise, and people to grow more reliant on the government.Poverty is poverty. The fact that someone's situation, on the surface, doesn't resemble the Dickensian version of poverty your parents have trained you to expect doesn't mean they are not poor, not struggling, and not in dire need of assistance. Unless you've lived on your own, managed a budget without a parental safety net, and experienced the day-to-day struggle of living with little means, you should really shut up.
Highly doubt that every welfare recipient with a flatscreen TV bought it used. If they did, and they really are poor, you'd think they would put it towards something else. Like their apparently gajillion dollar cost of living.One day, hopefully, you will NOT understand true poverty. At least not first-hand. I have. I promise you, even if you have a couple hours per night with a used flatscreen you picked up for $50, you won't feel rich because of it.
I see, so you're an adult, guess about life. It's okay, still not the first person I've met that thinks they're wise just because they're old.I see, so you're a child who is guessing about life, and has met hardly any poor people.
I could say the same to you. Spreading the misconception that people need money to be redistributed by the government, rather than help getting a job, if even that.They should similarly restrict your access to message boards, frankly, because you're quite good at spreading misinformation and falsehoods.
60$ for food is a lot, where do you shop? I'd say California, but that's even more expensive... maybe New York? It must be a Democrat-run state, because those do tend to have REALLY high cost of living, given the unreasonable numbers you're throwing around.Just because someone can afford $60 per month for a cell phone (a necessity these days) doesn't mean they have the $500 or so it takes just to pay for food, clothing, and personal care for an average person, per month, or the $1500+ it takes for a family of 4.
My parents don't pay any attention to politics, I've studied politics mostly independently. Your version of "assistance" doesn't actually assist people, it just makes them government reliant. They need jobs, not to suck hint tit off the government, as you'd have everyone do. Truly poor people ask for work, lazy people ask for money and food. You sound exactly like every Liberal ever, just assuming that everyone is incapable of helping themselves, claiming that businesses are somehow to blame for our pitiful excuse for poverty, then attacking those businesses, decreasing the amount of jobs we have, then redistributing money from said businesses, causing cost of living to rise, and people to grow more reliant on the government.Poverty is poverty. The fact that someone's situation, on the surface, doesn't resemble the Dickensian version of poverty your parents have trained you to expect doesn't mean they are not poor, not struggling, and not in dire need of assistance. Unless you've lived on your own, managed a budget without a parental safety net, and experienced the day-to-day struggle of living with little means, you should really shut up.
Highly doubt that every welfare recipient with a flatscreen TV bought it used. If they did, and they really are poor, you'd think they would put it towards something else. Like their apparently gajillion dollar cost of living.One day, hopefully, you will NOT understand true poverty. At least not first-hand. I have. I promise you, even if you have a couple hours per night with a used flatscreen you picked up for $50, you won't feel rich because of it.
