Is it time for Article Five Convention of States?

[jc456]

Let's face it folks, our corrupt government and biased liberal media has finally managed to kick the proverbial can so far down the road it went over a cliff and rolled into hell.

When states, judges, and the majority of governmental agencies go rogue and break basically every law to over rule the president especially regarding issues people elected him to fix, it's definitely time to vote for Article five convention of states.

For those who don't know, this was a loophole if you will which was put in place by our founding fathers just for a time like this when some in government would become so overwhelmingly corrupt and powerful, that their leadership might for all intents and purposes change the three party system to a one party dictatorship which is what happened recently to Venezuela. Given the power the left has managed to achieve, partnered with states that refuse to abide by the laws of the land to the point of becoming sanctuary cities, it's easy to see if liberals get back into office, they'll ensure they're never ousted again.

Twelve states have already opted into Article five so we're one third of the way there! We need this to happen people because as you can see, this country is never going to get back on tract until it does. And YOU can help make this happen by contacting your congressmen and women to let them know you want your state to join the crusade.

Surely after witnessing the incessant barrage of in your face corruption that's happening which is every day aired by a completely biased left wing media, other conservative state legislators will opt to do the same. But if not and nothing is done, at the current rate thing's are going, the country will continue to decay until it's too late to do anything about it. What's really scary is that even though the GOP have taken all three branches of government this past election, the left still continues to run the country and have the last say which is power of the worst kind. Just think what will happen if they win back those branches!

Anyone unclear what this will mean and what's on the horizon for America, only needs to observe what's happening in Venezuela whose citizens have been calling America radio stations to warn people the U.S. is heading in the same direction. They had a booming economy just like this nation not that long ago but are now living in hell fighting among themselves daily just to survive.

So I'll bet you're wondering what Article 5 convention of states is, right? Well I'm glad you asked because I just happened to enclose a nice link which explains it in detail, please read and afterwards contact your congressmen and women.

Oh and incidentally Mark Levin who is an attorney, conservative radio host, staunch patriot, and a brilliant man in my opinion, brought this to my attention and now I'm passing it on in hopes of saving this once great nation that used to belong to "WE THE PEOPLE"!

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.n..._Questions_Printable_3-12-2015.pdf?1426178728

What laws did anyone break, dupe? Most of Trump's problems have been with fellow GOP, and his promises were stupid ideas based on bs propaganda anyway...

Then how did he win?

 

[francoHFW]

All bs, but even the librul media let's it go, so the people who voted against crooked Hillary just believe SOME of it must be true....but it's NOT. So many dupes, such crap media. Bought off GOP propaganda and corporate anything for ratings crap....Poor America. Or our justice system is a bought off mess. I DON"T THINK SO.

The Clinton's shady walk along ethical lines dates back to their Arkansas days. That's enough for me to vote against her.

And all GOP BS, all investigated and NADA, for dupes only.

Nothing prosecutable beyond a reasonable doubt, you mean.

BTW, do you think Bill's private meeting with the AG of the US had any impact on events?

Only according to Russian fake news, dupe. Believed by Comey. NOT reported by Fox, dupe.

In your opinion. The fact you felt compelled to toss in so many ad hominems to bolster your argument tells me you are totally lacking in evidence.

Not ad hominems except in the political sense. Did you miss most of the news, as usual?

 

[francoHFW]

Let's face it folks, our corrupt government and biased liberal media has finally managed to kick the proverbial can so far down the road it went over a cliff and rolled into hell.

When states, judges, and the majority of governmental agencies go rogue and break basically every law to over rule the president especially regarding issues people elected him to fix, it's definitely time to vote for Article five convention of states.

For those who don't know, this was a loophole if you will which was put in place by our founding fathers just for a time like this when some in government would become so overwhelmingly corrupt and powerful, that their leadership might for all intents and purposes change the three party system to a one party dictatorship which is what happened recently to Venezuela. Given the power the left has managed to achieve, partnered with states that refuse to abide by the laws of the land to the point of becoming sanctuary cities, it's easy to see if liberals get back into office, they'll ensure they're never ousted again.

Twelve states have already opted into Article five so we're one third of the way there! We need this to happen people because as you can see, this country is never going to get back on tract until it does. And YOU can help make this happen by contacting your congressmen and women to let them know you want your state to join the crusade.

Surely after witnessing the incessant barrage of in your face corruption that's happening which is every day aired by a completely biased left wing media, other conservative state legislators will opt to do the same. But if not and nothing is done, at the current rate thing's are going, the country will continue to decay until it's too late to do anything about it. What's really scary is that even though the GOP have taken all three branches of government this past election, the left still continues to run the country and have the last say which is power of the worst kind. Just think what will happen if they win back those branches!

Anyone unclear what this will mean and what's on the horizon for America, only needs to observe what's happening in Venezuela whose citizens have been calling America radio stations to warn people the U.S. is heading in the same direction. They had a booming economy just like this nation not that long ago but are now living in hell fighting among themselves daily just to survive.

So I'll bet you're wondering what Article 5 convention of states is, right? Well I'm glad you asked because I just happened to enclose a nice link which explains it in detail, please read and afterwards contact your congressmen and women.

Oh and incidentally Mark Levin who is an attorney, conservative radio host, staunch patriot, and a brilliant man in my opinion, brought this to my attention and now I'm passing it on in hopes of saving this once great nation that used to belong to "WE THE PEOPLE"!

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.n..._Questions_Printable_3-12-2015.pdf?1426178728

What laws did anyone break, dupe? Most of Trump's problems have been with fellow GOP, and his promises were stupid ideas based on bs propaganda anyway...

Then how did he win?

Crappy media and 25 years of BS GOP propaganda, Russian fake news (including fake intelligence about AG saying she would suppress Hillary corruption investigation...)

 

[francoHFW]

About 80% of Americans think Congress needs term limits. About the same number also thinks the US federal Congress needs a balanced budget amendment of some kind.

The only way to get either is through the Article V movement.

I believe there's also a popular surge toward reigning in the judiciary.

Links to any of that crap?

 

[Divine Wind]

About 80% of Americans think Congress needs term limits. About the same number also thinks the US federal Congress needs a balanced budget amendment of some kind.

The only way to get either is through the Article V movement.

....so who is going to attend this Article V movement and who picks the agenda?

 

[Divine Wind]

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While I'd like to see it happen just to see what would happen, I doubt we ever will see anything come out of it for two reasons:

1) "Can Congress Block a Convention of States? No. As long as each states applies for a convention that deals with the same issue (i.e., limiting the power and jurisdiction of the federal government), Congress must call the convention. Congress can name the place and the time for the convention. If it fails to exercise this power reasonably, either the courts or the states themselves can override Congressional inaction." 34 states agreeing on a same issue amendment? Hardly.

2) "How are Proposed Amendments Ratified? Thirty-eight states must ratify any proposed amendments. Once states ratify, the amendments become part of the Constitution." Even if 34 states could agree on the same issue, having 38 ratify an amendment would be very unlikely to happen in this present age of a near 50/50 split between Americans.

Just_Saying , what issue do you think the 34 states should come together over which Congress is failing to do?

I understand that a balanced-budget amendment is often cited as a major concern the states wish to address.

That is a debatable point of view.

Example; while it's obvious families shouldn't spend beyond their means, how many can afford to buy a home and a car without a loan? Doesn't taking out a loan violate the principle of a balanced family budget?

 

[Divine Wind]

Not ad hominems except in the political sense. Did you miss most of the news, as usual?

A lie followed by another insult. Awesome.

 

[ScienceRocks]

No, it is never a good time to hand everything over to corporate America and remove any representation for the poor and middle class.

That is what this idiocy will do.

 

[Divine Wind]

No, it is never a good time to hand everything over to corporate America and remove any representation for the poor and middle class.

That is what this idiocy will do.

I agree. Who said that's what we should do?

BTW, it's never a good time to hand everything over to a Socialist Politburo and both remove any representation for the poor and eliminate the middle class.

 

[Dan Stubbs]

Let's face it folks, our corrupt government and biased liberal media has finally managed to kick the proverbial can so far down the road it went over a cliff and rolled into hell.

When states, judges, and the majority of governmental agencies go rogue and break basically every law to over rule the president especially regarding issues people elected him to fix, it's definitely time to vote for Article five convention of states.

For those who don't know, this was a loophole if you will which was put in place by our founding fathers just for a time like this when some in government would become so overwhelmingly corrupt and powerful, that their leadership might for all intents and purposes change the three party system to a one party dictatorship which is what happened recently to Venezuela. Given the power the left has managed to achieve, partnered with states that refuse to abide by the laws of the land to the point of becoming sanctuary cities, it's easy to see if liberals get back into office, they'll ensure they're never ousted again.

Twelve states have already opted into Article five so we're one third of the way there! We need this to happen people because as you can see, this country is never going to get back on tract until it does. And YOU can help make this happen by contacting your congressmen and women to let them know you want your state to join the crusade.

Surely after witnessing the incessant barrage of in your face corruption that's happening which is every day aired by a completely biased left wing media, other conservative state legislators will opt to do the same. But if not and nothing is done, at the current rate thing's are going, the country will continue to decay until it's too late to do anything about it. What's really scary is that even though the GOP have taken all three branches of government this past election, the left still continues to run the country and have the last say which is power of the worst kind. Just think what will happen if they win back those branches!

Anyone unclear what this will mean and what's on the horizon for America, only needs to observe what's happening in Venezuela whose citizens have been calling America radio stations to warn people the U.S. is heading in the same direction. They had a booming economy just like this nation not that long ago but are now living in hell fighting among themselves daily just to survive.

So I'll bet you're wondering what Article 5 convention of states is, right? Well I'm glad you asked because I just happened to enclose a nice link which explains it in detail, please read and afterwards contact your congressmen and women.

Oh and incidentally Mark Levin who is an attorney, conservative radio host, staunch patriot, and a brilliant man in my opinion, brought this to my attention and now I'm passing it on in hopes of saving this once great nation that used to belong to "WE THE PEOPLE"!

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.n..._Questions_Printable_3-12-2015.pdf?1426178728

What laws did anyone break, dupe? Most of Trump's problems have been with fellow GOP, and his promises were stupid ideas based on bs propaganda anyway...

I think the reference is in regard to Clinton s crimes, leaks from insiders, Obamma's misuse of the search warrants line taps, data discloses, Citizens involvement with other Nations, war Material being transfered to Outside Nations, and the list goes on.

 

[Syriusly]

Basically the Convention of States can do whatever the hell it wants to with the Constitution- including revoking it entirely.

Why would anyone trust anyone- from either side- with revising the Constitution- or tearing it up?

What exactly about the Constitution do you folks despise so much that you want to risk the entire Constitution for?

 

[Syriusly]

Let's face it folks, our corrupt government and biased liberal media has finally managed to kick the proverbial can so far down the road it went over a cliff and rolled into hell.

When states, judges, and the majority of governmental agencies go rogue and break basically every law to over rule the president especially regarding issues people elected him to fix, it's definitely time to vote for Article five convention of states.

For those who don't know, this was a loophole if you will which was put in place by our founding fathers just for a time like this when some in government would become so overwhelmingly corrupt and powerful, that their leadership might for all intents and purposes change the three party system to a one party dictatorship which is what happened recently to Venezuela. Given the power the left has managed to achieve, partnered with states that refuse to abide by the laws of the land to the point of becoming sanctuary cities, it's easy to see if liberals get back into office, they'll ensure they're never ousted again.

Twelve states have already opted into Article five so we're one third of the way there! We need this to happen people because as you can see, this country is never going to get back on tract until it does. And YOU can help make this happen by contacting your congressmen and women to let them know you want your state to join the crusade.

Surely after witnessing the incessant barrage of in your face corruption that's happening which is every day aired by a completely biased left wing media, other conservative state legislators will opt to do the same. But if not and nothing is done, at the current rate thing's are going, the country will continue to decay until it's too late to do anything about it. What's really scary is that even though the GOP have taken all three branches of government this past election, the left still continues to run the country and have the last say which is power of the worst kind. Just think what will happen if they win back those branches!

Anyone unclear what this will mean and what's on the horizon for America, only needs to observe what's happening in Venezuela whose citizens have been calling America radio stations to warn people the U.S. is heading in the same direction. They had a booming economy just like this nation not that long ago but are now living in hell fighting among themselves daily just to survive.

So I'll bet you're wondering what Article 5 convention of states is, right? Well I'm glad you asked because I just happened to enclose a nice link which explains it in detail, please read and afterwards contact your congressmen and women.

Oh and incidentally Mark Levin who is an attorney, conservative radio host, staunch patriot, and a brilliant man in my opinion, brought this to my attention and now I'm passing it on in hopes of saving this once great nation that used to belong to "WE THE PEOPLE"!

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.n..._Questions_Printable_3-12-2015.pdf?1426178728

What laws did anyone break, dupe? Most of Trump's problems have been with fellow GOP, and his promises were stupid ideas based on bs propaganda anyway...

I think the reference is in regard to Clinton s crimes, leaks from insiders, Obamma's misuse of the search warrants line taps, data discloses, Citizens involvement with other Nations, war Material being transfered to Outside Nations, and the list goes on.

Clinton's crimes? What was she charged with?
Leaks from insiders? There are always leaks from insiders.
And how did Obama misuse 'search warrants?

The list of the right wing nuttery does go on and on.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

The left for the most part, fear an article 5 more than they fear Trump. Why? Ummmm, how many states did Trump win again! See, you answered your own question!


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Because you say so? Not hardly. Liberals also want it to keep the corruption out of Washington. Colorado was the last to pass something like this years ago and it was bounced by the Supreme Court. And Colorado's electoral college voted for Hillary.

So take a deep breath and remove that aluminum hat. You won't need it.

 

[francoHFW]

Not ad hominems except in the political sense. Did you miss most of the news, as usual?

A lie followed by another insult. Awesome.

Just the facts....how do you think GOPers get a whole other planet? Crooked Hillary and Obama, Obama got all he wanted etc etc see sig

 

[francoHFW]

Let's face it folks, our corrupt government and biased liberal media has finally managed to kick the proverbial can so far down the road it went over a cliff and rolled into hell.

When states, judges, and the majority of governmental agencies go rogue and break basically every law to over rule the president especially regarding issues people elected him to fix, it's definitely time to vote for Article five convention of states.

For those who don't know, this was a loophole if you will which was put in place by our founding fathers just for a time like this when some in government would become so overwhelmingly corrupt and powerful, that their leadership might for all intents and purposes change the three party system to a one party dictatorship which is what happened recently to Venezuela. Given the power the left has managed to achieve, partnered with states that refuse to abide by the laws of the land to the point of becoming sanctuary cities, it's easy to see if liberals get back into office, they'll ensure they're never ousted again.

Twelve states have already opted into Article five so we're one third of the way there! We need this to happen people because as you can see, this country is never going to get back on tract until it does. And YOU can help make this happen by contacting your congressmen and women to let them know you want your state to join the crusade.

Surely after witnessing the incessant barrage of in your face corruption that's happening which is every day aired by a completely biased left wing media, other conservative state legislators will opt to do the same. But if not and nothing is done, at the current rate thing's are going, the country will continue to decay until it's too late to do anything about it. What's really scary is that even though the GOP have taken all three branches of government this past election, the left still continues to run the country and have the last say which is power of the worst kind. Just think what will happen if they win back those branches!

Anyone unclear what this will mean and what's on the horizon for America, only needs to observe what's happening in Venezuela whose citizens have been calling America radio stations to warn people the U.S. is heading in the same direction. They had a booming economy just like this nation not that long ago but are now living in hell fighting among themselves daily just to survive.

So I'll bet you're wondering what Article 5 convention of states is, right? Well I'm glad you asked because I just happened to enclose a nice link which explains it in detail, please read and afterwards contact your congressmen and women.

Oh and incidentally Mark Levin who is an attorney, conservative radio host, staunch patriot, and a brilliant man in my opinion, brought this to my attention and now I'm passing it on in hopes of saving this once great nation that used to belong to "WE THE PEOPLE"!

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.n..._Questions_Printable_3-12-2015.pdf?1426178728

What laws did anyone break, dupe? Most of Trump's problems have been with fellow GOP, and his promises were stupid ideas based on bs propaganda anyway...

I think the reference is in regard to Clinton s crimes, leaks from insiders, Obamma's misuse of the search warrants line taps, data discloses, Citizens involvement with other Nations, war Material being transfered to Outside Nations, and the list goes on.

Funny how that stuff only happens on Fox, Rush etc....the whole US justice system is in on the conspiracy, eh, nutjob?

 

[OKTexas]

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While I'd like to see it happen just to see what would happen, I doubt we ever will see anything come out of it for two reasons:

1) "Can Congress Block a Convention of States? No. As long as each states applies for a convention that deals with the same issue (i.e., limiting the power and jurisdiction of the federal government), Congress must call the convention. Congress can name the place and the time for the convention. If it fails to exercise this power reasonably, either the courts or the states themselves can override Congressional inaction." 34 states agreeing on a same issue amendment? Hardly.

2) "How are Proposed Amendments Ratified? Thirty-eight states must ratify any proposed amendments. Once states ratify, the amendments become part of the Constitution." Even if 34 states could agree on the same issue, having 38 ratify an amendment would be very unlikely to happen in this present age of a near 50/50 split between Americans.

Just_Saying , what issue do you think the 34 states should come together over which Congress is failing to do?

Where does Article 5 say the requests must be on the same issue?

.

 

[OKTexas]

The fellow is, quite simply, unfit for public office of any kind, never mind the highest office in the land.

Agreed, but Hillary was unfit due to her corruption, cronyism and crooked conduct. "We, the People" had to choose between two deplorable candidates and the lesser of two evils won the election.

I agree that we were only able to choose between two corrupt evils, however, our two choices actually can be summarized as...

1. corrupt, sane competence

2. corrupt, disturbed incompetence

And, unfortunately, "corrupt, sane competence" lost.

Perhaps the reason "corrupt, sane competence" lost was because of the much higher level of corruptness.

What happened to "honest, sane, competent"? Why was the highest office of the land boiled down to two candidates which you admit were both corrupt?

"sane competence" lost? LMAO Comey said the bitch was incompetent. Not sophisticated enough to realize what classified information was, and no reasonable person would have the conversations on an insecure system she did. That reeks of complete incompetence.

.

 

[OKTexas]

Basically the Convention of States can do whatever the hell it wants to with the Constitution- including revoking it entirely.

Why would anyone trust anyone- from either side- with revising the Constitution- or tearing it up?

What exactly about the Constitution do you folks despise so much that you want to risk the entire Constitution for?

Your ignorance is showing again, it takes 38 States to do anything.

.

 

[candycorn]

Let's face it folks, our corrupt government and biased liberal media has finally managed to kick the proverbial can so far down the road it went over a cliff and rolled into hell.

When states, judges, and the majority of governmental agencies go rogue and break basically every law to over rule the president especially regarding issues people elected him to fix, it's definitely time to vote for Article five convention of states.

For those who don't know, this was a loophole if you will which was put in place by our founding fathers just for a time like this when some in government would become so overwhelmingly corrupt and powerful, that their leadership might for all intents and purposes change the three party system to a one party dictatorship which is what happened recently to Venezuela. Given the power the left has managed to achieve, partnered with states that refuse to abide by the laws of the land to the point of becoming sanctuary cities, it's easy to see if liberals get back into office, they'll ensure they're never ousted again.

Twelve states have already opted into Article five so we're one third of the way there! We need this to happen people because as you can see, this country is never going to get back on tract until it does. And YOU can help make this happen by contacting your congressmen and women to let them know you want your state to join the crusade.

Surely after witnessing the incessant barrage of in your face corruption that's happening which is every day aired by a completely biased left wing media, other conservative state legislators will opt to do the same. But if not and nothing is done, at the current rate thing's are going, the country will continue to decay until it's too late to do anything about it. What's really scary is that even though the GOP have taken all three branches of government this past election, the left still continues to run the country and have the last say which is power of the worst kind. Just think what will happen if they win back those branches!

Anyone unclear what this will mean and what's on the horizon for America, only needs to observe what's happening in Venezuela whose citizens have been calling America radio stations to warn people the U.S. is heading in the same direction. They had a booming economy just like this nation not that long ago but are now living in hell fighting among themselves daily just to survive.

So I'll bet you're wondering what Article 5 convention of states is, right? Well I'm glad you asked because I just happened to enclose a nice link which explains it in detail, please read and afterwards contact your congressmen and women.

Oh and incidentally Mark Levin who is an attorney, conservative radio host, staunch patriot, and a brilliant man in my opinion, brought this to my attention and now I'm passing it on in hopes of saving this once great nation that used to belong to "WE THE PEOPLE"!

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.n..._Questions_Printable_3-12-2015.pdf?1426178728

What laws did anyone break, dupe? Most of Trump's problems have been with fellow GOP, and his promises were stupid ideas based on bs propaganda anyway...

If by now you don't know all the laws that have been broken by virtually all in the past administration, you don't follow politics at all or you're just lackadaisical and don't care. Not that I think this will actually help someone who is obviously biased and completely one sided but what the hell here is a small list of a much bigger one:
1. Obama and Hillary denied extra security for the compound in Benghazi which ended in the death of an American ambassador, two navy seals, and one other.
2. Obama went around Congress to release 5 Taliban commanders and flew pallets of cash to Iran which is currently being used to fund further terrorist activities. And what did we get in exchange? One worthless traitor named Bowe Bergdahl. What a deal!
3. Obama ordered surveillance on Trump's team and unmasked Americans simply for political purposes which is a FELONY. And since the election he now spends his days trying to upend whatever Trump tries to accomplish which ironically could be construed as obstruction of justice. But enough about that traitor, let's move on.
4. Hillary Clinton's email debacle where she discussed different levels of secret information over a wide open unsecured server.
5. Hillary sold access to top secret nuclear arms meeting held between top military generals to a person not vetted or given clearance who was nothing but a stock exchange trader that donated to her bogus money laundering foundation.
6. Hillary sold 20% of America's uranium to RUSSIA in exchange for donations to her foundation and exorbitant fees paid to Bill Clinton for speeches he gave there.
7. The now infamous ordeal when Bill Clinton met with Loretta Lynch of the DOJ secretively aboard an airplane just before Hillary was to testify regarding her email server.
8. The long list of cover ups by James Comey of the FBI which showed how strangely big hearted the guy was albeit only in favor of Hillary and others in the Obama administration.

That was the short list of a much longer one but still clearly enough to warrant several investigations that are far worse than what the left is claiming against Trump and his crew.

So I guess there will be amendments to the Constitution about compound security? Wow…sounds like just what we need.

 

[candycorn]

Don’t know if anyone else bothered to read the link but here is the key phrase from it: (It’s done in Q&A format with most of the important questions left out—Such as “The COS can do away with the Bill of Rights, correct?” Answer: Yes!) Anyway, here is the question and answer.

If the Federal Government Ignores the Current Constitution, Why Would They Adhere to an Amended Constitution?
When the Founders wrote the Constitution, they did not anticipate modern-day politicians who take advantage of loopholes and vague phraseology. Even though the federal violation of the Constitution is obvious to all reasonable Americans, Washington pretends otherwise, claiming the Constitution contains broad and flexible language. Amendments at a convention of states will be written with such politicians in mind. The language they use for these amendments will be unequivocal. There will be no doubt as to their meaning, no possibility of alternate interpretations, and no way for them to be broken.

After the Civil War, states had to draw new constitutions once they were brought back into the US. Texas had such a brutal governor, they basically made the governorship useless. They also wrote a very specific constitution like what is mentioned above.

To date, there are 491 Amendments to the Constitution of Texas—they amend the piece of shit all the time; 500 times in about 150 years.
Sound good to you????