Is 50% of 58% a "Mandate?

[Jroc]

You dipshits have failed. You got your ass kicked by a retard. Think about that. What's that say about you?

This tax increase is YOUR fault.

Wake the fuck up or go away. You are destroying the Republican party.

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it's not about the Republican party. LIBERTY!! get it through your friken head

 

[Jroc]

This is the problem. You think taking everyone's money by force is winning.

No I don't. I hate Obama and everything he stands for. But I refuse to live in denial. I accept reality. Taxes are going to be raised on the rich whether I like it or not.

This the GOP's fault for letting itself be taken over by people who have the intellectual bandwidth of a bumper sticker.

"Death panels".

"Food stamp president".

Notice how all the catch phrases are attacks instead of better ideas?

How'd that work out?

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How much have the rich spent in the last 6 years to elect people who will not raise their taxes? As single issues go it was not worth the effort, time and money to simply defend the Bush tax cuts from expiring. Pretty lousy issue for the republican party to destroy themselves over.

Tax Reform!...Get it? you people are simple minded... Our crony tax code needs to be reformed

 

[g5000]

If only 58% of registered voters turned out, that is as much the Republican party's fault as anyone else. The GOP failed to inspire. People stayed home because the GOP just sucked that bad.

The GOP chose to attack the other guy's ideas, which is an open admission of intellectual bankruptcy. They have no better ideas.

All those people who stayed home, all that silence? THAT is a mandate. It is a mandate to get your fucking shit together or get used to losing.

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[occupied]

You dipshits have failed. You got your ass kicked by a retard. Think about that. What's that say about you?

This tax increase is YOUR fault.

Wake the fuck up or go away. You are destroying the Republican party.

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it's not about the Republican party. LIBERTY!! get it through your friken head

WTF are you going on and on about liberty? The republican party has only had one purpose for 6 years, defend the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy. That is not defending liberty, it is merely defending the bottom line for their donors.

 

[g5000]

Tax Reform!...Get it? you people are simple minded... Our crony tax code needs to be reformed

Hey dipshit. I have been saying we need reform the entire year. And I have given tons more specifics than Romney ever did.

In fact, Romney gave NO specifics. Because he is a coward.

In fact, your shit is so weak the words "tax reform" don't mean a fucking thing. That's more bumper sticker philosophy.

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[Jroc]

If only 58% of registered voters turned out, that is as much the Republican party's fault as anyone else. The GOP failed to inspire. People stayed home because the GOP just sucked that bad.

The GOP chose to attack the other guy's ideas, which is an open admission of intellectual bankruptcy. They have no better ideas.

All those people who stayed home, all that silence? THAT is a mandate. It is a mandate to get your fucking shit together or get used to losing.

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People like you get walked all over like a punk you're pathetic

 

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No I don't. I hate Obama and everything he stands for. But I refuse to live in denial. I accept reality. Taxes are going to be raised on the rich whether I like it or not.

This the GOP's fault for letting itself be taken over by people who have the intellectual bandwidth of a bumper sticker.

"Death panels".

"Food stamp president".

Notice how all the catch phrases are attacks instead of better ideas?

How'd that work out?

.

How much have the rich spent in the last 6 years to elect people who will not raise their taxes? As single issues go it was not worth the effort, time and money to simply defend the Bush tax cuts from expiring. Pretty lousy issue for the republican party to destroy themselves over.

Tax Reform!...Get it? you people are simple minded... Our crony tax code needs to be reformed

No republican will ever vote for a tax reform package that does not shift the tax burden sharply downward.

 

[g5000]

If only 58% of registered voters turned out, that is as much the Republican party's fault as anyone else. The GOP failed to inspire. People stayed home because the GOP just sucked that bad.

The GOP chose to attack the other guy's ideas, which is an open admission of intellectual bankruptcy. They have no better ideas.

All those people who stayed home, all that silence? THAT is a mandate. It is a mandate to get your fucking shit together or get used to losing.

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People like you get walked all over like a punk you're pathetic

I'm not the one in denial about taxes being raised on the rich soon.

The GOP got punked, and is about to get punked some more, not me.

The whining of the shitbirds who have destroyed the GOP is music to my ears.


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[Jroc]

You dipshits have failed. You got your ass kicked by a retard. Think about that. What's that say about you?

This tax increase is YOUR fault.

Wake the fuck up or go away. You are destroying the Republican party.

.

it's not about the Republican party. LIBERTY!! get it through your friken head

WTF are you going on and on about liberty? The republican party has only had one purpose for 6 years, defend the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy. That is not defending liberty, it is merely defending the bottom line for their donors.

Clone...You're clueless.. $250,000 a year? "Filthy rich" You're a joke

 

[g5000]

How much have the rich spent in the last 6 years to elect people who will not raise their taxes? As single issues go it was not worth the effort, time and money to simply defend the Bush tax cuts from expiring. Pretty lousy issue for the republican party to destroy themselves over.

Tax Reform!...Get it? you people are simple minded... Our crony tax code needs to be reformed

No republican will ever vote for a tax reform package that does not shift the tax burden sharply downward.

The truth is that the middle class receives more expenditures than Romney's 20 percent reduction in their tax rates would cover. That's why he avoided specifics, because it would have made it plain that his plan would increase taxes on the middle class, or else the budget would never balance. And both alternatives would have been unacceptable to Republicans.



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it's not about the Republican party. LIBERTY!! get it through your friken head

WTF are you going on and on about liberty? The republican party has only had one purpose for 6 years, defend the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy. That is not defending liberty, it is merely defending the bottom line for their donors.

Clone...You're clueless.. $250,000 a year? "Filthy rich" You're a joke

You are the one who apparently cannot read the writing on the wall, the tax bill for the rich must be given up as a lost cause for now, we have bigger fish to fry than focusing our entire attention on the well being of the most prosperous among us and still trying to make trickle down economics work for us.

 

[LibertyLemming]

NEWS FLASH: If the Bush tax cuts expire everyone's taxes go up. Not just the "rich".

 

[Jroc]

WTF are you going on and on about liberty? The republican party has only had one purpose for 6 years, defend the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy. That is not defending liberty, it is merely defending the bottom line for their donors.

Clone...You're clueless.. $250,000 a year? "Filthy rich" You're a joke

You are the one who apparently cannot read the writing on the wall, the tax bill for the rich must be given up as a lost cause for now, we have bigger fish to fry than focusing our entire attention on the well being of the most prosperous among us and still trying to make trickle down economics work for us.

People who work hard and make two, three, four hundred thousand should not be punished for it to satisfy people like you. That’s not a plan to fix our physical problems now is it?

 

[Jroc]

If you get your health insurance through a job, you might lose it as of Jan. 1, 2014. That’s when the new “employer mandate” kicks in, requiring employers with 50 or more full-time workers to provide the government-designed health plan or pay a fine. The government plan is so expensive, it adds $1.79 per hour to the cost of a full-time employee. That’s incidental if you're hiring neurosurgeons but a hefty increase for hiring busboys and sales clerks.

Currently, employers in retail and fast-food industries pay less than half that to cover their workers.To avoid thecostly mandate,some employers will push workers into part-time status. Other employers will opt for the fine. Either way, workers lose their on-the-job coverage.

Worse, they risklosingtheir jobs.Even the fine adds 98 cents an hour to the cost of labor, enough to make some employers cut back on their workforce.

As many as a third of employers are considering canceling coverage, according to McKinsey & Co. management consultants. But that doesn’t mean you’ll be uninsured; you won’t have that choice.

When you file your taxes, you will have to show proof that you are enrolled in the one-size-fits-all plan approved by the federal government. It’s mandatory, starting Jan. 1, 2014, or the IRS will withhold your refund. If you’ve been going without insurance, or your employer drops coverage, your options will be enrolling in Medicaid (if you’re eligible) or buying a government-approved health plan on your state health exchange.

What’s an insurance exchange? It’s like a supermarket that only sells cereal. The exchange will sell only the government-designed plan. In most states, exchanges will be an 800 number, a Web site and a government office, like the DMV. People with household incomes up to $92,200 will be eligible for a subsidy.

If you’re a senior or a baby boomer, expect less care than in the past. Cuts to future Medicare funding pay for more than half the Obama health law. Hospitals, for example, will have $247 billion less to care for same number of seniors than if the law had not passed. Hospitals will spread nurses thinner. California nurses already are striking over the increased workloads.

When Medicare cuts led hospitals to reduce nursing care in the past, elderly patients had a lower chance of surviving their stay and death rates from heart attacks rose, according to a report last year by the National Bureau of Economic Research.

For the first time in history, the federal government will control how doctors treat privately insured patients. Section 1311 of the law empowers the Secretary of Health and Human Services to standardize what doctors do. Even if you have a private plan from Cigna or Aetna and you paid for it yourself, the federal government will have some say over your doctors’ decisions, with an eye toward reducing health-care consumption.

If you sell your house and make a profit, you’ll likely be paying a new 3.8 percent tax on the gain. The law includes about half a trillion dollars in tax hikes, including a new 3.8 percent tax on gains from selling any asset, including your home, small business, stocks or bonds, effective Jan. 1, 2013. That’s on top of capital-gains taxes and applies to any profit that pushes your income over $200,000.

Beware: ObamaCare’s now reality - NYPOST.com

 

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Clone...You're clueless.. $250,000 a year? "Filthy rich" You're a joke

You are the one who apparently cannot read the writing on the wall, the tax bill for the rich must be given up as a lost cause for now, we have bigger fish to fry than focusing our entire attention on the well being of the most prosperous among us and still trying to make trickle down economics work for us.

People who work hard and make two, three, four hundred thousand should not be punished for it to satisfy people like you. That’s not a plan to fix our physical problems now is it?

I make pretty good money and as a lifelong single childless person I have paid plenty, looking back on what the Bush tax cuts gave me I can say with certainty that they never made a difference in my life and they probably never made a difference in yours. It's not like they were such a huge cut for anyone other than the extremely wealthy that they were worth the effort the republicans have put into preserving them. This ideological attack on a taxes has cost the republicans far more than a few percentage points at the end of the year ever will.

 

[The Infidel]

Bush's Political Capital - YouTube

You’ve got Bush derangement. Bush isn't the president and I'm not defending him so get some help for your psychosis

They criticize the "wingnuts" for bellyaching a week later and they are still whining 12 years later.

Go figure

 

[g5000]

The Bush tax cuts were intended to be temporary. Not permanent. That is the way the laws were written.

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[LibertyLemming]

The Bush tax cuts were intended to be temporary. Not permanent. That is the way the laws were written.

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So you are in favor of everyone paying more taxes?

 

[g5000]

The Bush tax cuts were intended to be temporary. Not permanent. That is the way the laws were written.

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So you are in favor of everyone paying more taxes?

I am putting the tax increases on the rich in perspective.

I have frequently asked the liberals on this forum that if life was so orgiastically great under Clinton's tax rates why we don't let ALL of the cuts expire. The Republicans are not the only ones blocking the expiration of the Bush tax cuts.

This question invariably makes liberals run for the hills and hide.

Many people think the "Bush tax cuts" were just cuts for the wealthy. That's how successful Obama has been in pulling the wool over their eyes.

To answer your question, hell no. Obama will spend every penny, and then some, of any tax increases he achieves.

If I thought any increase in revenues would be used to pay down our debt or balance the budget, I would give it serious consideration.

But with Obama that's about as likely as Fox News endorsing Hugo Chavez.

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[LibertyLemming]

The Bush tax cuts were intended to be temporary. Not permanent. That is the way the laws were written.

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So you are in favor of everyone paying more taxes?

I am putting the tax increases on the rich in perspective.

I have frequently asked the liberals on this forum that if life was so orgiastically great under Clinton's tax rates why we don't let ALL of the cuts expire. The Republicans are not the only ones blocking the expiration of the Bush tax cuts.

This question invariably makes liberals run for the hills and hide.

Many people think the "Bush tax cuts" were just cuts for the wealthy. That's how successful Obama has been in pulling the wool over their eyes.

To answer you question, hell no. Obama will spend every penny, and then some, of any tax increases he achieves.

If I thought any increase in revenues would be used to pay down our debt or balance the budget, I would give it serious consideration.

But with Obama that's about as likely as Fox News endorsing Hugo Chavez.

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Trusting people with more of our money to pay down a debt they created is pretty silly IMO