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Your point?
Simple question: Were Reagan, Rummy and all neocons, anti-Semites?
The US entered Iranian waters during a response to an attack by Iranian gunboats on US helicopters. The USS Vincennes chased the gunboats back into Iranian waters. The Iranians stopped targeting and firing on American aircraft operating in the Persian Gulf after the shootdown of IR 655.
Here's a seldom seen picture of the result of our shooting down an Iranian civilian airline....Again, how would WE have reacted?
American pilots would have identified themselves as a commercial airliner in response to the half dozen request by a war ship to identify themselves. They also would not be flying over an area where combat was taking place. Air controllers would have warned them away from the area instead of allowing them to fly in a direct path to a war ship under attack from Iranian forces.The US entered Iranian waters during a response to an attack by Iranian gunboats on US helicopters. The USS Vincennes chased the gunboats back into Iranian waters. The Iranians stopped targeting and firing on American aircraft operating in the Persian Gulf after the shootdown of IR 655.
Here's a seldom seen picture of the result of our shooting down an Iranian civilian airline....Again, how would WE have reacted?
American pilots would have identified themselves as a commercial airliner in response to the half dozen request by a war ship to identify themselves. They also would not be flying over an area where combat was taking place. Air controllers would have warned them away from the area instead of allowing them to fly in a direct path to a war ship under attack from Iranian forces.The US entered Iranian waters during a response to an attack by Iranian gunboats on US helicopters. The USS Vincennes chased the gunboats back into Iranian waters. The Iranians stopped targeting and firing on American aircraft operating in the Persian Gulf after the shootdown of IR 655.
Here's a seldom seen picture of the result of our shooting down an Iranian civilian airline....Again, how would WE have reacted?
The US entered Iranian waters during a response to an attack by Iranian gunboats on US helicopters
Air controllers would have warned them away from the area instead of allowing them to fly in a direct path to a war ship under attack from Iranian forces.
The US entered Iranian waters during a response to an attack by Iranian gunboats on US helicopters
Helicopters that were fired up by small arms whilst invading Iranian airspace.
Limp excuses and half stories don't excuse mass murder.
Air controllers would have warned them away from the area instead of allowing them to fly in a direct path to a war ship under attack from Iranian forces.
Except the Iranian controllers didn't know a US warship was invading Iranian waters to attack Iranian boats that had fired on an invading aircraft.
The aircraft had no warnings at all, because the daft murdering US navy didn't use the correct frequencies, nor did they check the fully operating civilian transponder signal the aircraft was using.
Of course, the US reports lied about these minor facts, only admitting them when they ran out of lies and the ability to cover up the murders.
The US entered Iranian waters during a response to an attack by Iranian gunboats on US helicopters
Helicopters that were fired up by small arms whilst invading Iranian airspace.
Limp excuses and half stories don't excuse mass murder.
why would Iran fire on US helicopters?. It does not take much
to bring a helicopter down------were the helicopters engaged in
BOMBING ---Iran? Firing on a helicopter is INTENT TO KILL
nat4900
If I understand correctly, you are an American citizen (or live there constantly). What would you do if you were the US president and had a limitless power? I mean the current situation – considering Russia, the Middle East, China, and so on.
To say the truth, I think that Israel has developed its nuclear arsenal not because of its desire to spend money on wasteful projects. Throughout the period of its independence, it has constantly been threatened by its neighbours with promises to push it into the sea. Considering the size and the number of the neighbours, what would you do if you were one who is responsible for Israel’s security?Iran will eventually have her nukes......The "dam" toward nuclear armaments was opened when Israel accumulated 300 of her own nukes and the removasl of Hussein from Iraq, was a welcomed "gift" to Iran.
To say the truth, I think that Israel has developed its nuclear arsenal not because of its desire to spend money on wasteful projects. Throughout the period of its independence, it has constantly been threatened by its neighbours with promises to push it into the sea. Considering the size and the number of the neighbours, what would you do if you were one who is responsible for Israel’s security?Iran will eventually have her nukes......The "dam" toward nuclear armaments was opened when Israel accumulated 300 of her own nukes and the removasl of Hussein from Iraq, was a welcomed "gift" to Iran.
If I understand you correctly, you welcome the deal with Iran, but you don’t think that Iran will abide by its provisions.
What do you think the US government should do if Iran refuses to sign a final deal in June and declares its intention to create a nuclear bomb?
Israel, nuclear capabilities have NOT stopped any of the discord in the region....and actually made it worse by beginning an arms race for nukes....Israel was well capable to defend herself with conventional weapons....and the "cost" of building a nuclear arsenal was subsidized by US taxpayers at the tune of 3-6 billions per year.
Second, if Iran decides to pursue her nuclear capabilities, there is nothing that the rest of the world can do...NOTHING.
Sure, Israel can bomb away, but that will only delay the inevitable by months with the ADDED animosity toward her from virtually all other Muslim countries and castigation from most of her current allies.
Israel, nuclear capabilities have NOT stopped any of the discord in the region....and actually made it worse by beginning an arms race for nukes....Israel was well capable to defend herself with conventional weapons....and the "cost" of building a nuclear arsenal was subsidized by US taxpayers at the tune of 3-6 billions per year.
Israel hasn’t had any intention to stop any discord in the region. Its very goal was and is to preserve its existence. And yes, you are right about its capabilities to defend itself with conventional weapons and it has done so. It hasn’t used nuclear weapons, has it? But does it mean that it needn’t have developed its nuclear arsenal?
Actually, it was the Israeli’s Muslim neighbours who provoked the race for nukes in the Middle East by attacking Israel from the very beginning and threatening to eventually destroy it.
Second, if Iran decides to pursue her nuclear capabilities, there is nothing that the rest of the world can do...NOTHING.
Sure, Israel can bomb away, but that will only delay the inevitable by months with the ADDED animosity toward her from virtually all other Muslim countries and castigation from most of her current allies.
Okay, it is nothing that can be done. So, Iran eventually creates a nuclear bomb. What, for example, Saudis reaction will be in this case?
And unfortunately you didn’t answer what you would do if you were America’s ruler.
Nonesense.......Israel's 300 nukes have ONLY started an arms race for comparable destructive weapons.....If Israel has not used them it is because the wrath from Pakistan, China, Noth Korea and Russia would obliterate her and she'd be the moral equivalent of Nazi Germany.
Now, it may be different...parity will evetually be reached with Iran's nukes...and soon to follow, Saudi nukes.
No other country (except for us) has used nukes but the arms race may unleash havoc...an arms race that, regardless of how you like to spin it, was started by Israel in that region.
What would I do if I were the leader of the West???? Exactly what the Obama administration is doing.
Nonesense.......Israel's 300 nukes have ONLY started an arms race for comparable destructive weapons.....If Israel has not used them it is because the wrath from Pakistan, China, Noth Korea and Russia would obliterate her and she'd be the moral equivalent of Nazi Germany.
Now, it may be different...parity will evetually be reached with Iran's nukes...and soon to follow, Saudi nukes.
No other country (except for us) has used nukes but the arms race may unleash havoc...an arms race that, regardless of how you like to spin it, was started by Israel in that region.
Okay, I see your point.
Maybe you know that Iran began developing its nuclear programme it the 1970-s when there was a shah and Iran was an ally of the US and had very good relationship with Israel. I think that a nuclear race would begin even with Israel’s arsenal.
I can’t condemn Israel for developing the nuclear programme, to say the truth. It is the same if someone would condemn a person, whose neighbours are constantly trying to rob and kill him, for trying to buy a riffle instead of knife to protect himself. Of course, he should be prohibited from buying a rifle because it may provoke his neighbours to buy more riffles!
What would I do if I were the leader of the West???? Exactly what the Obama administration is doing.
Yes, I also think that the Obama administration is going in a right direction by trying to clinch a deal.
Well, thanks for your answers.
The S-300 and its successor are the most sophisticated systems. Nothing to "defeat easily".Russia likes to use the S-300 as a threat and and example of the kind sophisticated high tech weapon system it produces. The last thing they want is to actually have to prove it's worth in battle. The S-300 will easily be defeated and become the latest of Russian embarrassments.
Russia likes to use the S-300 as a threat and and example of the kind sophisticated high tech weapon system it produces. The last thing they want is to actually have to prove it's worth in battle. The S-300 will easily be defeated and become the latest of Russian embarrassments.
Russia likes to use the S-300 as a threat and and example of the kind sophisticated high tech weapon system it produces. The last thing they want is to actually have to prove it's worth in battle. The S-300 will easily be defeated and become the latest of Russian embarrassments.
I agree.
I am sure the Israel Defense Forces will take the necessary steps to deal with this challenge, it's not like this is the first time they defeat problems of this nature.
Israel will prevail in the end as it always does!
