Iran may receive S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems from Russia

[ESay]

The president of Russia has signed a decree which allows Iran to get Russian S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems.

The decree lifts a ban on transit transportation through Russia, export to Iran, and passing the systems to Iran outside the Russian territory.
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The ban was introduced in 2010 by Russian then-president Dmitry Medvedev in the wake of the UN Security Council resolution which widened the sanctions against Iran.

 

[Camp]

Russia likes to use the S-300 as a threat and and example of the kind sophisticated high tech weapon system it produces. The last thing they want is to actually have to prove it's worth in battle. The S-300 will easily be defeated and become the latest of Russian embarrassments.

 

[Moonglow]

But that should make conservatives happy, since their real he-man Pootin is a leader, a real leader...and he's white...

 

[ESay]

The S-300 will easily be defeated and become the latest of Russian embarrassments.

Do you have any proof?
If I remember correctly, the US strongly opposed such a deal. Why would they do so if S-300 were a useless pile of metal?

 

[Camp]

The S-300 will easily be defeated and become the latest of Russian embarrassments.

Do you have any proof?
If I remember correctly, the US strongly opposed such a deal. Why would they do so if S-300 were a useless pile of metal?

Sale of the S-300 to Iran will automatically trigger sale of F-35's to Israel. The F-35 is thought to be able to neutralize the S-300. If nothing else, the S-300, like other anti aircraft systems, can be over burdened and overcome with drones and cruise missiles.

 

[ESay]

Sale of the S-300 to Iran will automatically trigger sale of F-35's to Israel. The F-35 is thought to be able to neutralize the S-300. If nothing else, the S-300, like other anti aircraft systems, can be over burdened and overcome with drones and cruise missiles.

S-300 is able to intercept cruise missiles. And I don’t think that drones are far more complicated thing for it than manned aircraft.
But a question is not only in S-300’s. Russia is beginning to woo Iran. And I wonder where it will stop.

 

[Camp]

Sale of the S-300 to Iran will automatically trigger sale of F-35's to Israel. The F-35 is thought to be able to neutralize the S-300. If nothing else, the S-300, like other anti aircraft systems, can be over burdened and overcome with drones and cruise missiles.

S-300 is able to intercept cruise missiles. And I don’t think that drones are far more complicated thing for it than manned aircraft.
But a question is not only in S-300’s. Russia is beginning to woo Iran. And I wonder where it will stop.

It comes down to good old fashioned arms escalation. Great for the weapons industry. The problem isn't with being able to contend with the anti aircraft system. We have means to identify their locations and destroy them. They may knock down some aircraft for awhile, but eventually they are neutralized. The problem with the S-300 is they have a long range, over 120 miles. That means they can target and surprize US aircraft flying over the Gulf, Iraq and even Afghanistan. It give the operator the option of shooting at aircraft outside of their territory. That equates to genuine arms escalation. The Iranians would be getting advanced weapons that allow them to attack outside of their borders.

 

[ESay]

It comes down to good old fashioned arms escalation. Great for the weapons industry. The problem isn't with being able to contend with the anti aircraft system. We have means to identify their locations and destroy them. They may knock down some aircraft for awhile, but eventually they are neutralized. The problem with the S-300 is they have a long range, over 120 miles. That means they can target and surprize US aircraft flying over the Gulf, Iraq and even Afghanistan. It give the operator the option of shooting at aircraft outside of their territory. That equates to genuine arms escalation. The Iranians would be getting advanced weapons that allow them to attack outside of their borders.

If you can easily locate and destroy them, then I don’t see almost any problem at all. If you send, for example, two F-15’s to fly over Iraq and the Iranians decide to shut them down and they eventually shut them down by means of S-300, then you simply locate the positions of the S-300’s and destroy them. Right? Of course, you will lose two F-15’s and it is a pity. But you will be able to endure it, I hope.

 

[nat4900]

One of the many, mnay reasons whu right wingers on here are trulu stupid...".playing" at war as if they were playing their video games.

Sure, bomb away.....No repercussions, right?

..And then we wonder WHY other countries don't see us as any more than bullies with no morality....and then we call on God to shed his garce on us....

MORONS !!!!

 

[ESay]

One of the many, mnay reasons whu right wingers on here are trulu stupid...".playing" at war as if they were playing their video games.

Sure, bomb away.....No repercussions, right?

..And then we wonder WHY other countries don't see us as any more than bullies with no morality....and then we call on God to shed his garce on us....

MORONS !!!!

You are nervous, man. I know that tea with mint is good for nervous system. Do you have any mint in your neighbourhood?

..And then we wonder WHY other countries don't see us as any more than bullies with no morality....

Well, I have to admit that you are right to some extent. And what do you propose?

 

[Camp]

It comes down to good old fashioned arms escalation. Great for the weapons industry. The problem isn't with being able to contend with the anti aircraft system. We have means to identify their locations and destroy them. They may knock down some aircraft for awhile, but eventually they are neutralized. The problem with the S-300 is they have a long range, over 120 miles. That means they can target and surprize US aircraft flying over the Gulf, Iraq and even Afghanistan. It give the operator the option of shooting at aircraft outside of their territory. That equates to genuine arms escalation. The Iranians would be getting advanced weapons that allow them to attack outside of their borders.

If you can easily locate and destroy them, then I don’t see almost any problem at all. If you send, for example, two F-15’s to fly over Iraq and the Iranians decide to shut them down and they eventually shut them down by means of S-300, then you simply locate the positions of the S-300’s and destroy them. Right? Of course, you will lose two F-15’s and it is a pity. But you will be able to endure it, I hope.

The S-300 is mobile mounted. Not sure your scenario with the F-15's would work unless they were being escorted by a Growler and attack aircraft like the F-35 or strike system that could reach the target within minutes.
Everyone who deems Iran or anyone else with the S-300 aq threat will want the Growler to go along with the F-35. Russia needs money to flow into it's defense industry. The US might like more funds to flow into the US defense industry, but the US isn't in desperate need the way Russia is.
The S-300 has not been battle tested against the west, specifically NATO and the US. Until it is, it will be hotly debated. I'm betting the west will win if and when they do.

 

[Indofred]

This is s defensive system, only used to destroy targets invading Iranian airspace.
There is absolutely no need to care about it ... unless you wish to attack Iran.

 

[Wyatt earp]

This is s defensive system, only used to destroy targets invading Iranian airspace.
There is absolutely no need to care about it ... unless you wish to attack Iran.

Obama is cutting a nuke deal and they get these? I see an Israel attack coming up,

 

[Camp]

This is s defensive system, only used to destroy targets invading Iranian airspace.
There is absolutely no need to care about it ... unless you wish to attack Iran.

That comment is just dishonesty being used to promote your opinion. Most defensive weapons can be used for offensive purposes. The S-300 is a perfect example. Your comment that it can only be used on targets invading Iran is a total lie. It can be used offensively to knock down any aircraft within a 120 miles of it's border. That is a new and profound addition to Iran's military capability.

 

[Indofred]

That comment is just dishonesty being used to promote your opinion. Most defensive weapons can be used for offensive purposes. The S-300 is a perfect example. Your comment that it can only be used on targets invading Iran is a total lie. It can be used offensively to knock down any aircraft within a 120 miles of it's border. That is a new and profound addition to Iran's military capability.

I understand it's 93 miles, so that's nothing for Israel to worry about, unless they send an invading force of aircraft into Iran.
As for US bases surrounding Iran, don't surround Iran and there's no danger.
After all, Iran has no capability to attack America so, if you fuck off home, there's no danger to American troops.

 

[Camp]

That comment is just dishonesty being used to promote your opinion. Most defensive weapons can be used for offensive purposes. The S-300 is a perfect example. Your comment that it can only be used on targets invading Iran is a total lie. It can be used offensively to knock down any aircraft within a 120 miles of it's border. That is a new and profound addition to Iran's military capability.

I understand it's 93 miles, so that's nothing for Israel to worry about, unless they send an invading force of aircraft into Iran.
As for US bases surrounding Iran, don't surround Iran and there's no danger.
After all, Iran has no capability to attack America so, if you fuck off home, there's no danger to American troops.

The system threatens both military and commercial aircraft flying over the Persian Gulf and all neighbors of Iran, including Afghanistan. As far as bases or facilities around Iran, we have a right to be in any nation that invites us to be in their country.

 

[nat4900]

That comment is just dishonesty being used to promote your opinion. Most defensive weapons can be used for offensive purposes. The S-300 is a perfect example. Your comment that it can only be used on targets invading Iran is a total lie. It can be used offensively to knock down any aircraft within a 120 miles of it's border. That is a new and profound addition to Iran's military capability.

I understand it's 93 miles, so that's nothing for Israel to worry about, unless they send an invading force of aircraft into Iran.
As for US bases surrounding Iran, don't surround Iran and there's no danger.
After all, Iran has no capability to attack America so, if you fuck off home, there's no danger to American troops.

The system threatens both military and commercial aircraft flying over the Persian Gulf and all neighbors of Iran, including Afghanistan. As far as bases or facilities around Iran, we have a right to be in any nation that invites us to be in their country.

Ergo, we had and have a responsibility to vacate both Iraq and Afghanistan?

 

[irosie91]

This is s defensive system, only used to destroy targets invading Iranian airspace.
There is absolutely no need to care about it ... unless you wish to attack Iran.

and yet the meccaist dogs and bitches complain INCESSANTLY about
the "IRON DOME" defense system

 

[Camp]

That comment is just dishonesty being used to promote your opinion. Most defensive weapons can be used for offensive purposes. The S-300 is a perfect example. Your comment that it can only be used on targets invading Iran is a total lie. It can be used offensively to knock down any aircraft within a 120 miles of it's border. That is a new and profound addition to Iran's military capability.

I understand it's 93 miles, so that's nothing for Israel to worry about, unless they send an invading force of aircraft into Iran.
As for US bases surrounding Iran, don't surround Iran and there's no danger.
After all, Iran has no capability to attack America so, if you fuck off home, there's no danger to American troops.

The system threatens both military and commercial aircraft flying over the Persian Gulf and all neighbors of Iran, including Afghanistan. As far as bases or facilities around Iran, we have a right to be in any nation that invites us to be in their country.

Ergo, we had and have a responsibility to vacate both Iraq and Afghanistan?

That is an opinion. When it gains enough support it will be accomplished. At the present time the support is for keeping a presence in and around both of those nations.

 

[irosie91]

I am geographically compromised-----93 miles? seems to me that Iran could
use that rocket system in the inevitable Shiite/sunni conflict heating up right now
in Yemen and spilling into Saudi-arabia