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NO, what is silly is that we are still punishing Iran for something that happened 30 years ago and we were in the wrong.
Yes, (we) President Carter was wrong to undermine the Shah and allow the Ayatollahs to take over the country. He was wrong to allow Iran to hold the American Embassy staff hostage for over a year.
Anything else you can think of?
No, the WRONG thing was propping the Shah up to start with, and then not handing him over as a criminal when asked to do so.
America is not the bastion it once was and the world hides and shivers after forgetting history.
it's a sad day when the President of the United is willingly used my the muslim nutjobs. At least the idiot could have called the "Supreme Leader"...What a joke he is
NO, what is silly is that we are still punishing Iran for something that happened 30 years ago and we were in the wrong.
Yes, (we) President Carter was wrong to undermine the Shah and allow the Ayatollahs to take over the country. He was wrong to allow Iran to hold the American Embassy staff hostage for over a year.
Anything else you can think of?
America is not the bastion it once was and the world hides and shivers after forgetting history.
Israel is just a shell of a nation.
Nut shell.
America is not the bastion it once was and the world hides and shivers after forgetting history.
Israel is just a shell of a nation.
Nut shell.
Israel is the ball in a three shell game.
Israel, America & Europe.
Then there's the others. (Shia/Sunny)
They're watching and betting. (and likely paying for it all too)
Israel is just a shell of a nation.
Nut shell.
Israel is the ball in a three shell game.
Israel, America & Europe.
Then there's the others. (Shia/Sunni)
They're watching and betting. (and likely paying for it all too)
The haters cant see through the hate.... They are blinded by it
Some of you are hilarious. During the Syrian WWIII crap you used and mimicked Russian news sources that Russians don't even use or trust. Now you are using an Iranian source that is a state run propaganda paper that Iranians don't trust of believe. Only the lower educated brainwashed people in Russia believe those ridiculous sources in Russia and only the same in Iran believe that source and other state run sources in Iran. Oh, and you people.
Yes, (we) President Carter was wrong to undermine the Shah and allow the Ayatollahs to take over the country. He was wrong to allow Iran to hold the American Embassy staff hostage for over a year.
Anything else you can think of?
No, the WRONG thing was propping the Shah up to start with, and then not handing him over as a criminal when asked to do so.
So you think the US should have returned him to the Ayatollah to be put to death. What was the wrong thing?
The Shah's crime was his attempt to stay a western ally and return Iran to a Persian nation instead of a Muslim nation ruled by religious fanatics.
No, the WRONG thing was propping the Shah up to start with, and then not handing him over as a criminal when asked to do so.
So you think the US should have returned him to the Ayatollah to be put to death. What was the wrong thing?
The Shah's crime was his attempt to stay a western ally and return Iran to a Persian nation instead of a Muslim nation ruled by religious fanatics.
Yes, we ABSOLUTELY should have turned him over.
He committed crimes against his people. And frankly, if the Shah wasn't such an asshole, he'd have happily traded his life for the American Hostages.
So you think the US should have returned him to the Ayatollah to be put to death. What was the wrong thing?
The Shah's crime was his attempt to stay a western ally and return Iran to a Persian nation instead of a Muslim nation ruled by religious fanatics.
Yes, we ABSOLUTELY should have turned him over.
He committed crimes against his people. And frankly, if the Shah wasn't such an asshole, he'd have happily traded his life for the American Hostages.
I would need a link that a trade for the American hostages was ever suggested by anyone.
Are there any other former deposed heads of state that opposed Muslim takeover and control of their country that you want to send back to their death?
Yes, we ABSOLUTELY should have turned him over.
He committed crimes against his people. And frankly, if the Shah wasn't such an asshole, he'd have happily traded his life for the American Hostages.
I would need a link that a trade for the American hostages was ever suggested by anyone.
Are there any other former deposed heads of state that opposed Muslim takeover and control of their country that you want to send back to their death?
I would say that ANY deposed leader should be extradited to their government if they are asked for.
The Shah murdered and tortured thousands of his own people.
The main reason why the Iranians took the embassy is because we admitted the Shah to the US for cancer treatment. The Iranians thought we were gearing up for another coup to put him back into power, just like we did in 1953. That's why they took the embassy.
The American people should be very proud of our beloved Pres. Obama.
He is righting the wrongs the U.S. has inflicted for decades on other nations all over the world.
And now I truly see why he was awarded the Nobel Prize so early in his tenure as president.
575 US troops died in Afghanistan during the Bush presidency. By August 18, 2010, following two troop surges initiated by President Obama, that number had doubled. Today, over 1500 US troops have died in Afghanistan since President Obama took officeand yet, little in that war-torn country has changed.
I would need a link that a trade for the American hostages was ever suggested by anyone.
Are there any other former deposed heads of state that opposed Muslim takeover and control of their country that you want to send back to their death?
I would say that ANY deposed leader should be extradited to their government if they are asked for.
The Shah murdered and tortured thousands of his own people.
The main reason why the Iranians took the embassy is because we admitted the Shah to the US for cancer treatment. The Iranians thought we were gearing up for another coup to put him back into power, just like we did in 1953. That's why they took the embassy.
The Shah left Iran in January 1979 and did not come to the US for medical care for cancer until Oct 1979.
I see no reason to continue this discussion with someone who is a liar or just makes shit up.
I would say that ANY deposed leader should be extradited to their government if they are asked for.
The Shah murdered and tortured thousands of his own people.
The main reason why the Iranians took the embassy is because we admitted the Shah to the US for cancer treatment. The Iranians thought we were gearing up for another coup to put him back into power, just like we did in 1953. That's why they took the embassy.
The Shah left Iran in January 1979 and did not come to the US for medical care for cancer until Oct 1979.
I see no reason to continue this discussion with someone who is a liar or just makes shit up.
I refuse to try to educate someone who is ignorant of history.
It was the act of us admitting him that had the Iranians panicked.
The Iranian Hostage Crisis . Jimmy Carter . WGBH American Experience | PBS
Even after it became known that the Shah was suffering from cancer, President Carter was reluctant to allow him entry to the United States, for fear of reprisal against Americans still in Iran. But in October, when the severity of the Shah's illness became known, Carter relented on humanitarian grounds. "He went around the room, and most of us said, 'Let him in.'" recalls Vice President Walter Mondale. "And he said, 'And if [the Iranians] take our employees in our embassy hostage, then what would be your advice?' And the room just fell dead. No one had an answer to that. Turns out, we never did."
When students overran the embassy and seized more than sixty Americans on November 4, it was not at all clear who they represented or what they hoped to achieve. In fact, a similar mob had briefly done the same thing nine months earlier, holding the American ambassador hostage for a few hours before members of Khomeini's retinue ordered him released. But this time, Khomeini saw a chance to consolidate his power around a potent symbol, and issued a statement in support of the action against the American "den of spies." The students vowed not to release the Americans until the U.S. returned the Shah for trial, along with billions of dollars they claimed he had stolen from the Iranian people.
In accord with the pleasant US-Iran relations then-existing, President Carter spent New Year's Eve in 1977 with the Shah and toasted Iran as "an island of stability in one of the more troubled areas of the world". Nonetheless, between 1975 and 1978, the Shah's popularity fell due to the Carter administration's misguided implementation of human rights policies.
The election of Mr. Carter as president of the United States in 1976, with his vocal emphasis on the importance of human rights in international affairs, was a turning point in US-Iran relations. The Shah of Iran was accused of torturing over 3000 prisoners. Under the banner of promoting human rights, Carter made excessive demands of the Shah, threatening to withhold military and social aid. Carter pressured the Shah to release "political prisoners", whose ranks included radical fundamentalists, communists and terrorists. Many of these individuals are now among the opponents we face in our "war on terrorism".
The Carter Administration insisted that the Shah disband military tribunals, demanding they be replaced by civil courts. The effect was to allow trials to serve as platforms for anti-government propaganda. Carter pressured Iran to permit "free assembly", which encouraged and fostered fundamentalist anti-government rallies. The British government and its MI6 intelligence agency also heightened the Shah's precariousness. The government-controlled BBC presented Iranians with a dossier of twenty hour newscasts detailing the location of all anti-Shah demonstrations and consistent interviews with the exiled outcast Ayatollah Khomeini, making a religious scholar few Iranians knew about into an overnight sensation.
When the Shah was unable to meet the Carter Administration and British demands, the Carter Administration reportedly ordered the Central Intelligence Agency to stop $4 million per year in funding to religious Mullahs who then became outspoken and vehement opponents of the Shah. Unfortunately, the Shah's efforts to defuse the volatile situation in Iran failed, despite the grant even of free and democratic elections. Confronted with lack of US support and unleashed Mullah fury, the Shah of Iran fled the country.
Subsequent to the Carter Administration's ill-conceived foreign policy initiative, Iran is now a dungeon. Ayatollah Khomeini's dictatorship executed the Shah's prisoners, predominantly communist militants, along with more than 20,000 pro-Western Iranians. Women were sent back into servitude. Citizens were arrested merely for owning satellite dishes that could tune to Western programs. American diplomats were taken hostage, and the Soviet Union invaded Iran's eastern neighbor Afghanistan as a result of this chaos, allowing it to secure greater influence in Iran and Pakistan. The struggle against the Soviets in Afghanistan, and the defeat of this invading Superpower with help from the United States under President Reagan gave rise to the radicalization and emergence of Muslim zealots like Osama bin Laden. Moreover, within a year of the Shah's ouster, Iran on its western flank was locked into the Iran-Iraq War, in which the U.S. sided with secular Iraq and its military dictator Saddam Hussein.
In retrospect, the Iran-Iraq War would never have occurred had Jimmy Carter not weakened the Shah's regime. This conflict cost the two nations more than 500,000 lives, including thousands of Iranians killed by Saddam Hussein's use of chemical weapons. The Iran-Iraq war triggered the rise of Saddam Hussein as a major power whose invasion of Kuwait was repelled by Desert Storm. The United States refrained from deposing Saddam Hussein in a continuation of the Desert Storm operation out of concern that the resulting "power vacuum" would be filled by Iran's Ayatollahs.
Thus Jimmy Carter's misguided implementation of human rights policies not only indirectly led to overthrow of the Shah of Iran, but also paved the way for loss of more than 600,000 lives, Iran's rule by Ayatollahs, the Iran-Iraq War, Iraq's Invasion of Kuwait and Desert Storm, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, the Taliban, Al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden, and the mass murder of Americans and destruction of the World Trade Center towers on September 11, 2001
LOL......that's quite a laundry list of blame to lay at Pres. Carter's feet.Thus Jimmy Carter's misguided implementation of human rights policies not only indirectly led to overthrow of the Shah of Iran, but also paved the way for loss of more than 600,000 lives, Iran's rule by Ayatollahs, the Iran-Iraq War, Iraq's Invasion of Kuwait and Desert Storm, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, the Taliban, Al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden, and the mass murder of Americans and destruction of the World Trade Center towers on September 11, 2001
I would say that ANY deposed leader should be extradited to their government if they are asked for.
The Shah murdered and tortured thousands of his own people.
The main reason why the Iranians took the embassy is because we admitted the Shah to the US for cancer treatment. The Iranians thought we were gearing up for another coup to put him back into power, just like we did in 1953. That's why they took the embassy.
The Shah left Iran in January 1979 and did not come to the US for medical care for cancer until Oct 1979.
I see no reason to continue this discussion with someone who is a liar or just makes shit up.
I refuse to try to educate someone who is ignorant of history.
It was the act of us admitting him that had the Iranians panicked.
The Iranian Hostage Crisis . Jimmy Carter . WGBH American Experience | PBS
Even after it became known that the Shah was suffering from cancer, President Carter was reluctant to allow him entry to the United States, for fear of reprisal against Americans still in Iran. But in October, when the severity of the Shah's illness became known, Carter relented on humanitarian grounds. "He went around the room, and most of us said, 'Let him in.'" recalls Vice President Walter Mondale. "And he said, 'And if [the Iranians] take our employees in our embassy hostage, then what would be your advice?' And the room just fell dead. No one had an answer to that. Turns out, we never did."
When students overran the embassy and seized more than sixty Americans on November 4, it was not at all clear who they represented or what they hoped to achieve. In fact, a similar mob had briefly done the same thing nine months earlier, holding the American ambassador hostage for a few hours before members of Khomeini's retinue ordered him released. But this time, Khomeini saw a chance to consolidate his power around a potent symbol, and issued a statement in support of the action against the American "den of spies." The students vowed not to release the Americans until the U.S. returned the Shah for trial, along with billions of dollars they claimed he had stolen from the Iranian people.
