I'm very sad today, the Establishment just hurt President Trumps re-election chances significantly

[Manonthestreet]

you over estimate the dems candidate field, Cant win em all especially when your own party has no spine.

No clue what YOU are talking about. _I_ am talking about Trump being primaried for 2020.

Recommendations?

Talking about him winning again cause you got nobody and nothing to run on

Dude. Seriously. This thread is about Trump and what damage today did to his 2020 run. I'm saying if he is primaried, who would you like to see run. This isn't a thread about Democrats. I'm sorry, it just isn't. Everybody already knows what you think and how you feel, Christ knows you've said it often enough. SO. Back on track.

Would you still vote for Trump. If you feel he needs to be primaried, who would you like to see run.

I've already chosen my candidate.

The Rock reveals why he’s ‘seriously considering’ running for president

When pressed on whether he's looking at a 2020 candidacy, Johnson acknowledges that that would "probably be the case."

Interestingly, Johnson suggests in an interview with Variety that he plans to run for the office four years later due to film obligations. "Realistically, as we go into 2018, when you look at my slate as we're developing and shooting into 2019 and 2020, the slate goes deep into 2021, so it feels like the realistic consideration would be 2024," he says.

Though he was previously registered as a Republican and has appeared at the Republican convention to boost voter registration, according to the Washington Post, he tells USA today, "Right now I'm an independent."

But if he were to run next year, he has a few things already going for him.

He wont be....next,,,,you still have nobody and nothing to run on

Wow. You really don't want to discuss the subject at hand. Okay. Thanks for the insight.

IFs and buts...desperate dem delusions.....any challenger would have to be outside those he beat last time.....which leaves boring swamp creatures that would get butched again

 

[impuretrash]

No clue what YOU are talking about. _I_ am talking about Trump being primaried for 2020.

Recommendations?

Rand Paul

VP contenders:
Jared Taylor
Steve Sailer
Ann Coulter

 

[shockedcanadian]

Rand Paul was my choice in 2016 before Trump convinced me he could be the answer. Rand Paul has been fairly consistent. Not perfect, but compared to most, he is to me what Americans inherently believe, whether they know it or not.

As it were, I don't think Paul would be a Primary challenger, he might be 2024 though.

 

[Witchit]

No clue what YOU are talking about. _I_ am talking about Trump being primaried for 2020.

Recommendations?

Talking about him winning again cause you got nobody and nothing to run on

Dude. Seriously. This thread is about Trump and what damage today did to his 2020 run. I'm saying if he is primaried, who would you like to see run. This isn't a thread about Democrats. I'm sorry, it just isn't. Everybody already knows what you think and how you feel, Christ knows you've said it often enough. SO. Back on track.

Would you still vote for Trump. If you feel he needs to be primaried, who would you like to see run.

I've already chosen my candidate.

The Rock reveals why he’s ‘seriously considering’ running for president

When pressed on whether he's looking at a 2020 candidacy, Johnson acknowledges that that would "probably be the case."

Interestingly, Johnson suggests in an interview with Variety that he plans to run for the office four years later due to film obligations. "Realistically, as we go into 2018, when you look at my slate as we're developing and shooting into 2019 and 2020, the slate goes deep into 2021, so it feels like the realistic consideration would be 2024," he says.

Though he was previously registered as a Republican and has appeared at the Republican convention to boost voter registration, according to the Washington Post, he tells USA today, "Right now I'm an independent."

But if he were to run next year, he has a few things already going for him.

He wont be....next,,,,you still have nobody and nothing to run on

Wow. You really don't want to discuss the subject at hand. Okay. Thanks for the insight.

IFs and buts...desperate dem delusions.....any challenger would have to be outside those he beat last time.....which leaves boring swamp creatures that would get butched again

Butchered?

Doubtful. What we are discussing here is the damage signing this bill did to Trump, and what it means to many of his followers; i.e., he is not likely to win a primary, therefore. The "Swamp Creatures" *and I assume you mean the crop he was up against last time?* would stand a better chance.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Talking about him winning again cause you got nobody and nothing to run on

Dude. Seriously. This thread is about Trump and what damage today did to his 2020 run. I'm saying if he is primaried, who would you like to see run. This isn't a thread about Democrats. I'm sorry, it just isn't. Everybody already knows what you think and how you feel, Christ knows you've said it often enough. SO. Back on track.

Would you still vote for Trump. If you feel he needs to be primaried, who would you like to see run.

I've already chosen my candidate.

The Rock reveals why he’s ‘seriously considering’ running for president

When pressed on whether he's looking at a 2020 candidacy, Johnson acknowledges that that would "probably be the case."

Interestingly, Johnson suggests in an interview with Variety that he plans to run for the office four years later due to film obligations. "Realistically, as we go into 2018, when you look at my slate as we're developing and shooting into 2019 and 2020, the slate goes deep into 2021, so it feels like the realistic consideration would be 2024," he says.

Though he was previously registered as a Republican and has appeared at the Republican convention to boost voter registration, according to the Washington Post, he tells USA today, "Right now I'm an independent."

But if he were to run next year, he has a few things already going for him.

He wont be....next,,,,you still have nobody and nothing to run on

Wow. You really don't want to discuss the subject at hand. Okay. Thanks for the insight.

IFs and buts...desperate dem delusions.....any challenger would have to be outside those he beat last time.....which leaves boring swamp creatures that would get butched again

Butchered?

Doubtful. What we are discussing here is the damage signing this bill did to Trump, and what it means to many of his followers; i.e., he is not likely to win a primary, therefore. The "Swamp Creatures" *and I assume you mean the crop he was up against last time?* would stand a better chance.

Yes butched. What would they run on? A balance budget they just blew up.....open borders.....what.....

 

[del]

Dude. Seriously. This thread is about Trump and what damage today did to his 2020 run. I'm saying if he is primaried, who would you like to see run. This isn't a thread about Democrats. I'm sorry, it just isn't. Everybody already knows what you think and how you feel, Christ knows you've said it often enough. SO. Back on track.

Would you still vote for Trump. If you feel he needs to be primaried, who would you like to see run.

I've already chosen my candidate.

The Rock reveals why he’s ‘seriously considering’ running for president

He wont be....next,,,,you still have nobody and nothing to run on

Wow. You really don't want to discuss the subject at hand. Okay. Thanks for the insight.

IFs and buts...desperate dem delusions.....any challenger would have to be outside those he beat last time.....which leaves boring swamp creatures that would get butched again

Butchered?

Doubtful. What we are discussing here is the damage signing this bill did to Trump, and what it means to many of his followers; i.e., he is not likely to win a primary, therefore. The "Swamp Creatures" *and I assume you mean the crop he was up against last time?* would stand a better chance.

Yes butched. What would they run on? A balance budget they just blew up.....open borders.....what.....

not being trump

 

[TNHarley]

Yeap...he screwed the pooch. Yesterday was John Bolton and today is no wall, well, less than 50 miles of wall, which is essentially, no wall. I have always said it, no wall, no vote from me.

We wouldnt need a wall if we didnt have incentive. Cut that off and the problem is gone.
But i know that wont ever happen so a good wall is reasonable.

 

[Manonthestreet]

He wont be....next,,,,you still have nobody and nothing to run on

Wow. You really don't want to discuss the subject at hand. Okay. Thanks for the insight.

IFs and buts...desperate dem delusions.....any challenger would have to be outside those he beat last time.....which leaves boring swamp creatures that would get butched again

Butchered?

Doubtful. What we are discussing here is the damage signing this bill did to Trump, and what it means to many of his followers; i.e., he is not likely to win a primary, therefore. The "Swamp Creatures" *and I assume you mean the crop he was up against last time?* would stand a better chance.

Yes butched. What would they run on? A balance budget they just blew up.....open borders.....what.....

not being trump

Losing campaign slogan right there

 

[Witchit]

Dude. Seriously. This thread is about Trump and what damage today did to his 2020 run. I'm saying if he is primaried, who would you like to see run. This isn't a thread about Democrats. I'm sorry, it just isn't. Everybody already knows what you think and how you feel, Christ knows you've said it often enough. SO. Back on track.

Would you still vote for Trump. If you feel he needs to be primaried, who would you like to see run.

I've already chosen my candidate.

The Rock reveals why he’s ‘seriously considering’ running for president

He wont be....next,,,,you still have nobody and nothing to run on

Wow. You really don't want to discuss the subject at hand. Okay. Thanks for the insight.

IFs and buts...desperate dem delusions.....any challenger would have to be outside those he beat last time.....which leaves boring swamp creatures that would get butched again

Butchered?

Doubtful. What we are discussing here is the damage signing this bill did to Trump, and what it means to many of his followers; i.e., he is not likely to win a primary, therefore. The "Swamp Creatures" *and I assume you mean the crop he was up against last time?* would stand a better chance.

Yes butched. What would they run on? A balance budget they just blew up.....open borders.....what.....

Okay - you're typing "butched," which is an entirely different word than that which I typed, which is "butchered."

I guess you'll find out in a year or so what they will be running on.

 

[skye]

Well, I think that's it. The Establishment outsmarted him with the latest spending Bill. He should have negotiated it himself, he needed to get at minimum the Wall, and maybe even the wall and DACA to be head and shoulders ahead. The Democrats they are clicking their heels by making this deal. Good for them as a party.

Now Trump has to throw Hail Mary's the rest of his term to have a shot, and it bothers me to see him in this position. China is going to win this because as I see it, there are too many people who lack the patriotism to see America succeed. I care little about Trumps language and undiplomatic way of dealing with things, I rooted for him, whether it was standing up to the UN, EU, China, Iran, N Korea. I don't have alot of confidence right now, and so many forgotten men and women will remain forgotten.

Here is how it will play out. The Dems will win the mid-terms, they will push for Impeachment, and probably fail, but, in the in-term they will simply push through big spending, socialists Bills which Trump won't sign. nothing will get done for his final two years and they will say "this guy isn't interested in governing".

They will send someone who can win the Rustbelt, most likely Biden, and Trump will be left behind because they will point to all his promises and what he got through. He can celebrate tax cuts and regulation reform, some courage standing up for U.S industries, MAYBE NAFTA, even that might require walking away, a renegotiation probably never gets finished, or is of less value.

I'm a logical guy, but also very passionate. I can tell you that America is in a tough place. I read it online, I see the stats, I see the economic harm being done by foreign enemies and even so-called allies. This Bill was exactly what Trump DIDN'T need, and everything the Democrats needed. With one fell swoop, they are back in the saddle. Amazing.

Well played Democrats. God Bless America. I believe in you and will pray accordingly that you Win.

There is a ton of legislation that needs to be done this year. This will give Trump some breathing room until the next budget is due. I'll bet he has something up his sleeve until then. Schumer and the rest of the Commie left had better step lightly the rest of the year.

That's what I was thinking Hossfly.... that the President has something up his sleeve....hoping and praying.

 

[Witchit]

I haven't done the Googling yet, but I think it's very very rare that anybody unseats a sitting President en route to his second term.

 

[del]

Wow. You really don't want to discuss the subject at hand. Okay. Thanks for the insight.

IFs and buts...desperate dem delusions.....any challenger would have to be outside those he beat last time.....which leaves boring swamp creatures that would get butched again

Butchered?

Doubtful. What we are discussing here is the damage signing this bill did to Trump, and what it means to many of his followers; i.e., he is not likely to win a primary, therefore. The "Swamp Creatures" *and I assume you mean the crop he was up against last time?* would stand a better chance.

Yes butched. What would they run on? A balance budget they just blew up.....open borders.....what.....

not being trump

Losing campaign slogan right there

whatever you say, sparky

 

[IsaacNewton]

Maybe he'll sign an executive order cancelling his signing of the bill. And then he'll fire Ben Carson's wife.

 

[impuretrash]

Well, I think that's it. The Establishment outsmarted him with the latest spending Bill. He should have negotiated it himself, he needed to get at minimum the Wall, and maybe even the wall and DACA to be head and shoulders ahead. The Democrats they are clicking their heels by making this deal. Good for them as a party.

Now Trump has to throw Hail Mary's the rest of his term to have a shot, and it bothers me to see him in this position. China is going to win this because as I see it, there are too many people who lack the patriotism to see America succeed. I care little about Trumps language and undiplomatic way of dealing with things, I rooted for him, whether it was standing up to the UN, EU, China, Iran, N Korea. I don't have alot of confidence right now, and so many forgotten men and women will remain forgotten.

Here is how it will play out. The Dems will win the mid-terms, they will push for Impeachment, and probably fail, but, in the in-term they will simply push through big spending, socialists Bills which Trump won't sign. nothing will get done for his final two years and they will say "this guy isn't interested in governing".

They will send someone who can win the Rustbelt, most likely Biden, and Trump will be left behind because they will point to all his promises and what he got through. He can celebrate tax cuts and regulation reform, some courage standing up for U.S industries, MAYBE NAFTA, even that might require walking away, a renegotiation probably never gets finished, or is of less value.

I'm a logical guy, but also very passionate. I can tell you that America is in a tough place. I read it online, I see the stats, I see the economic harm being done by foreign enemies and even so-called allies. This Bill was exactly what Trump DIDN'T need, and everything the Democrats needed. With one fell swoop, they are back in the saddle. Amazing.

Well played Democrats. God Bless America. I believe in you and will pray accordingly that you Win.

There is a ton of legislation that needs to be done this year. This will give Trump some breathing room until the next budget is due. I'll bet he has something up his sleeve until then. Schumer and the rest of the Commie left had better step lightly the rest of the year.

That's what I was thinking Hossfly.... that the President has something up his sleeve....hoping and praying.

I'm not under any illusions. Trump doesn't know what he's talking about. Remember when he said that thing about "take the guns first, due process later"? He was just showing off to the cameras trying to make it seem like he has viable solutions to real problems.

Everyone in the room just ignored him

 

[Manonthestreet]

I haven't done the Googling yet, but I think it's very very rare that anybody unseats a sitting President en route to his second term.

Inconvenient reality...oh my

 

[skye]

Well, I think that's it. The Establishment outsmarted him with the latest spending Bill. He should have negotiated it himself, he needed to get at minimum the Wall, and maybe even the wall and DACA to be head and shoulders ahead. The Democrats they are clicking their heels by making this deal. Good for them as a party.

Now Trump has to throw Hail Mary's the rest of his term to have a shot, and it bothers me to see him in this position. China is going to win this because as I see it, there are too many people who lack the patriotism to see America succeed. I care little about Trumps language and undiplomatic way of dealing with things, I rooted for him, whether it was standing up to the UN, EU, China, Iran, N Korea. I don't have alot of confidence right now, and so many forgotten men and women will remain forgotten.

Here is how it will play out. The Dems will win the mid-terms, they will push for Impeachment, and probably fail, but, in the in-term they will simply push through big spending, socialists Bills which Trump won't sign. nothing will get done for his final two years and they will say "this guy isn't interested in governing".

They will send someone who can win the Rustbelt, most likely Biden, and Trump will be left behind because they will point to all his promises and what he got through. He can celebrate tax cuts and regulation reform, some courage standing up for U.S industries, MAYBE NAFTA, even that might require walking away, a renegotiation probably never gets finished, or is of less value.

I'm a logical guy, but also very passionate. I can tell you that America is in a tough place. I read it online, I see the stats, I see the economic harm being done by foreign enemies and even so-called allies. This Bill was exactly what Trump DIDN'T need, and everything the Democrats needed. With one fell swoop, they are back in the saddle. Amazing.

Well played Democrats. God Bless America. I believe in you and will pray accordingly that you Win.

There is a ton of legislation that needs to be done this year. This will give Trump some breathing room until the next budget is due. I'll bet he has something up his sleeve until then. Schumer and the rest of the Commie left had better step lightly the rest of the year.

That's what I was thinking Hossfly.... that the President has something up his sleeve....hoping and praying.

I'm not under any illusions. Trump doesn't know what he's talking about. Remember when he said that thing about "take the guns first, due process later"? He was just showing off to the cameras trying to make it seem like he has viable solutions to real problems.ve something up his sleeve

Everyone in the room just ignored him

I don't know....still....I hope he does have something his sleeve....he must have....he needs to have

I still have faith in a good outcome.

 

[del]

I haven't done the Googling yet, but I think it's very very rare that anybody unseats a sitting President en route to his second term.

ford, carter, bush1 off the top of my head

johnson, but he didn't really run

no sitting president has been reelected after facing a serious challenge in nh, but the definition of serious is rather imprecise.

 

[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

Yeap...he screwed the pooch. Yesterday was John Bolton and today is no wall, well, less than 50 miles of wall, which is essentially, no wall. I have always said it, no wall, no vote from me.

We wouldnt need a wall if we didnt have incentive. Cut that off and the problem is gone.
But i know that wont ever happen so a good wall is reasonable.

If certain things don't or can't happen then the future is extremely dim. As it sits currently, the future is very dim. If a nation cannot secure it's borders then that country will simply cease to exist. Maybe not in name but most certainly in form. Yet, that is the point isn't it? That is the point of so much of what is happening globally. I certainly hope I am dead and gone before critical mass is achieved.
It was a great experiment while it lasted. Time for upheaval.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I haven't done the Googling yet, but I think it's very very rare that anybody unseats a sitting President en route to his second term.

ford, carter, bush1 off the top of my head

johnson, but he didn't really run

no sitting president has been reelected after facing a serious challenge in nh, but the definition of serious is rather imprecise.

A second term primary challenge from within the party, though?

That doesn't happen.

 

[impuretrash]

Well, I think that's it. The Establishment outsmarted him with the latest spending Bill. He should have negotiated it himself, he needed to get at minimum the Wall, and maybe even the wall and DACA to be head and shoulders ahead. The Democrats they are clicking their heels by making this deal. Good for them as a party.

Now Trump has to throw Hail Mary's the rest of his term to have a shot, and it bothers me to see him in this position. China is going to win this because as I see it, there are too many people who lack the patriotism to see America succeed. I care little about Trumps language and undiplomatic way of dealing with things, I rooted for him, whether it was standing up to the UN, EU, China, Iran, N Korea. I don't have alot of confidence right now, and so many forgotten men and women will remain forgotten.

Here is how it will play out. The Dems will win the mid-terms, they will push for Impeachment, and probably fail, but, in the in-term they will simply push through big spending, socialists Bills which Trump won't sign. nothing will get done for his final two years and they will say "this guy isn't interested in governing".

They will send someone who can win the Rustbelt, most likely Biden, and Trump will be left behind because they will point to all his promises and what he got through. He can celebrate tax cuts and regulation reform, some courage standing up for U.S industries, MAYBE NAFTA, even that might require walking away, a renegotiation probably never gets finished, or is of less value.

I'm a logical guy, but also very passionate. I can tell you that America is in a tough place. I read it online, I see the stats, I see the economic harm being done by foreign enemies and even so-called allies. This Bill was exactly what Trump DIDN'T need, and everything the Democrats needed. With one fell swoop, they are back in the saddle. Amazing.

Well played Democrats. God Bless America. I believe in you and will pray accordingly that you Win.

There is a ton of legislation that needs to be done this year. This will give Trump some breathing room until the next budget is due. I'll bet he has something up his sleeve until then. Schumer and the rest of the Commie left had better step lightly the rest of the year.

That's what I was thinking Hossfly.... that the President has something up his sleeve....hoping and praying.

I'm not under any illusions. Trump doesn't know what he's talking about. Remember when he said that thing about "take the guns first, due process later"? He was just showing off to the cameras trying to make it seem like he has viable solutions to real problems.ve something up his sleeve

Everyone in the room just ignored him

I don't know....still....I hope he does have something his sleeve....he must have....he needs to have

I still have faith in a good outcome.

My fingers are getting cramped from keeping them crossed for so long.