Illegal Status Is Weak

[Sonny Clark]

Soon, the word "illegal" will have very little meaning when speaking of immigrants. The push is on to completely open our borders and allow immigrants full access and legal status.

Immigrants can now get Mexican birth certificates in U.S.

The question then becomes, "what do we do with millions of immigrants?" And, will all of them come here without criminal records, drug addictions, or serious health issues? Do we have the resources to take on more men, women, and children that may not be able to care for themselves, or support themselves? Do we have jobs for them? Do we have housing for them? Can we provide health care for them? Can we feed them?

With both the Mexican and U.S. governments working together to settle immigrants here in this country, we may not need as many border patrol agents or equipment as in the past. And, immigration check points may disappear altogether. But, we may need more school teachers, and other public facilities to handle the additional influx.

Was "the fence" along our southern border wasteful spending? Are we inviting terrorists to enter this country easily? Will street gangs become even more common than they already are? And, what will the benefits be to us as these immigrants grow in number? And finally, are we creating a monster that we'll have to deal with down the road?

 

[tonystewart1]

Close the border. We cant handle millions of unskilled, poorly educated men and women. They would be a huge burden on social services. These people are not vaccinated and bring disease and death with them.

Terrorists would love an open border into the US. I am surprised we have not been attacked via the Mexican border.

There is no benefit to us allowing these people in the US, they are just a burden.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

'Soon, the word "illegal" will have very little meaning when speaking of immigrants.'

The word 'illegal' currently has no meaning with regard to undocumented immigrants, as one is not 'illegal' until found guilty of entering the country absent authorization in a court of law.

The word is otherwise correctly understood to refer to the unwarranted fear of diversity and change, and hatred of 'brown people.'

The first step in addressing the issue is to acknowledge the fact that those undocumented are indeed entitled to due process rights, and that opposition to immigration reform is predicated on that unwarranted fear and hatred of Hispanics.

 

[Sonny Clark]

'Soon, the word "illegal" will have very little meaning when speaking of immigrants.'

The word 'illegal' currently has no meaning with regard to undocumented immigrants, as one is not 'illegal' until found guilty of entering the country absent authorization in a court of law.

The word is otherwise correctly understood to refer to the unwarranted fear of diversity and change, and hatred of 'brown people.'

The first step in addressing the issue is to acknowledge the fact that those undocumented are indeed entitled to due process rights, and that opposition to immigration reform is predicated on that unwarranted fear and hatred of Hispanics.

In my opinion, it's not fear or hatred. It's mostly the economics of it. We don't have the money or resources to adequately care for U.S. citizens as it is. Look at the situation with Vets, our homeless population, and the elderly. Also, look at our low wages, part-time jobs, underemployed college grads, infrastructure in need of repairs and upgrades, cities going bankrupt, malls becoming ghost buildings or being torn down. They are not going to come here with pockets full of money that'll enable them to be self-supporting. There will be women and children, and even pregnant women. They will need food, shelter, and health care.

 

[Oldglory1]

'Soon, the word "illegal" will have very little meaning when speaking of immigrants.'

The word 'illegal' currently has no meaning with regard to undocumented immigrants, as one is not 'illegal' until found guilty of entering the country absent authorization in a court of law.

The word is otherwise correctly understood to refer to the unwarranted fear of diversity and change, and hatred of 'brown people.'

The first step in addressing the issue is to acknowledge the fact that those undocumented are indeed entitled to due process rights, and that opposition to immigration reform is predicated on that unwarranted fear and hatred of Hispanics.

If you came to this country illegally you are an illegal alien period according to immigration law. Doesn't matter whether one has been to court or not. Fear of diversity, change and brown people? WTH does that mean? We are already the most diversified country in the world due to "legal" immigration. We have a diversified citizenry also. There is no "reform" just amnesty and it would be for all illegal aliens not just Hispanics. Stick your effing race card where the sun don't shine!

By the way, they aren't undocumented. They have plenty of documents all fake or stolen.

 

[EatMorChikin]

'Soon, the word "illegal" will have very little meaning when speaking of immigrants.'

The word 'illegal' currently has no meaning with regard to undocumented immigrants, as one is not 'illegal' until found guilty of entering the country absent authorization in a court of law.

The word is otherwise correctly understood to refer to the unwarranted fear of diversity and change, and hatred of 'brown people.'

The first step in addressing the issue is to acknowledge the fact that those undocumented are indeed entitled to due process rights, and that opposition to immigration reform is predicated on that unwarranted fear and hatred of Hispanics.

You are off the rails!

 

[JoeMoma]

'Soon, the word "illegal" will have very little meaning when speaking of immigrants.'

The word 'illegal' currently has no meaning with regard to undocumented immigrants, as one is not 'illegal' until found guilty of entering the country absent authorization in a court of law.

The word is otherwise correctly understood to refer to the unwarranted fear of diversity and change, and hatred of 'brown people.'

The first step in addressing the issue is to acknowledge the fact that those undocumented are indeed entitled to due process rights, and that opposition to immigration reform is predicated on that unwarranted fear and hatred of Hispanics.

No! If an immigrant enters the country illegally on Jan 1, 2012 and is found guilty through due process on May 5, 2014, the immigrant was illegal since Jan 1, 2012. The immigrant may have been presumed innocent before due process occured, but that presumption would have been in error as later proven by the due process.

If a guy actually robs a bank and kills a customer in the bank in the process, he is guilty of bank robbery and murder immediately after comission of those actions even though he may be presumed innocent until convicted in a court of law.

 

[waltky]

Granny says, "Dat's right - if ya's illegal, ya's illegal an' dat's all there is to it...

Police Chief to Illegal Aliens: ‘Your Immigration Status Is Completely Irrelevant’
March 6, 2017 – Windsor, California Police Chief Carlos G. Basurto issued a letter in Spanish to illegal aliens in his town, assuring them that they are safe from deportation because his department “will not engage in federal immigration enforcement activities,” and that their immigration status is “completely irrelevant,” Judicial Watch reported on Thursday, March 2.

“If you are an undocumented immigrant in the Town of Windsor, you do not need to fear the officers of the Windsor Police Department,” Chief Basurto wrote, “nor assume that they have any reason to bother you, detain you or arrest you for simply being undocumented. Your immigration status is completely irrelevant to us.” The chief even vowed to protect illegal immigrants with minor criminal records, revealing that he will only allow his department to collaborate with Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to apprehend “serious or violent criminals” on the condition that ICE does not arrest individuals based on immigration status or low-level criminal offenses.

While conceding that some illegal aliens are “committed to violence, drugs, and domestic terrorism,” Basurto defended the practice of illegal immigration, saying that “most, if not all of these people emigrated here from other countries … in hopes of making a better life for themselves and their families.”

Illegal aliens being processed by U.S. border patrol agents in Arizona​

The chief himself worked in the prune fields of California when he was young, as his grandparents -- who illegally emigrated from Mexico -- did before him,” reported Judicial Watch. “I can relate to these people,” he wrote, “because like many of us in this town, we are these people.” “I am committed to provide them and all other segments of our community,” wrote Basurto, “with a safe and healthy community for all to enjoy and prosper and to have a feeling of equality.”

Windsor officials, fearful of consequences under the Trump administration, plan to keep the town’s sanctuary policies “under the radar,” according to a report in a local Spanish-language newspaper La Prensa Sonoma. The Town of Windsor will “adopt a resolution that omits the word sanctuary,” declaring instead that the town is a “united community that values diversity and the contributions of all residents,” stated the newspaper.

Police Chief to Illegal Aliens: ‘Your Immigration Status Is Completely Irrelevant’

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'Jesus Is Working Through' Trump to Clean up Gang Violence and Drugs
March 6, 2017 | Reverend Jesse Lee Peterson, an author, talk radio host, and pastor who focuses on "rebuilding the family by rebuilding the man," said that for 60 years not one liberal black leader has sought to clean out the violence and drugs in certain black communities, but Jesus is now "working through President Trump to get it done."

That's on Trump's "bucket list," Peterson added, "to clean up the black community," and also to take the "illegal aliens out of those communities, the gangs" that are "supported by drug cartels." Talking about the difficult situation in some black communities where there is heavy crime and rampant drug dealing and abuse, Peterson, on the March 1 edition of his radio program, said, “I noticed that, over the last 50 to 60 years, there have been black people in positions of power where they could have helped the black community and black people in a positive way and they did not."

Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson.​

“You have the Black Caucus, you have the NAACP, you have black preachers, Jesse Jackson, all of them," said Peterson, founder and president of the counseling group BOND. "Then you have President Obama, a black man – half-white, half-black, but he went with his blackness – and he had the power of the United States behind him," said Peterson. "Yet he didn’t go into those communities and clean out the gang violence and the drugs and the crime that’s going on there." "So along comes President Trump and that’s on his list, his bucket list – to clean up the black community so that they too can live," said Peterson. "The point was, most black people hate white folks, and yet it’s the whites, such as President Trump who are going to save them from themselves."

“Jesus is not like coming down here and doing it himself," said Peterson. "He’s working through President Trump to get it done. And I think that it’s interesting in over the last 60 years there has not been one black man that He’s worked through to get it done." "In this manner, saving me, he [Trump] is saving the blacks from themselves by going in there and cleaning up crime, drugs, and so that the decent blacks who are living in those areas can finally breathe and start living without fear of being shot down, robbed, killed," he said. "They can finally work." "And [Trump is] taking the illegal aliens out of those communities, the gangs that come from across the border, supported by drug cartels," said Peterson. "So he is the savior in that manner, the physical savior for the black people.”

In addition to his counseling and Sunday preaching, and his annual Conference on Fatherhood and Men, Rev. Peterson writes a regular column and is the author of several books, including SCAM: How Black Leadership Exploits Black America and The Antidote: Healing America From the Poison of Hate, Blame and Victimhood.

Rev. Peterson: 'Jesus Is Working Through' Trump to Clean up Gang Violence and Drugs