If you try to impeach Trump, the American people will not stand for it

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yes, people would have the right to object to Nestles if Nestles is being supported by public tax dollars.

PP is not the same as funding radio or television stations? What's the difference? Nobody ever said we should put PP out of business, we just said we don't want our tax dollars to go to the largest abortion center in the country. What if the Republicans decided to give funds to Smith & Wesson? I bet you would become a little Nazi yourself, wouldn't you?

Speaking of Nazism, you want to give tax dollars to an organization people object to, and force them against their will and vote to support them. I'm for giving voters the right to choose what kind of government (and handouts) they wish to give.

Just how do you think the federal government is funding planned parenthood?

When PP provides a pelvic exam or breast cancer evaluation, they get reimbursed for services rendered through Medicaid or Title X.

Nestle (who owns Gerber) get government money when food stamps are used to buy their product.

So it is the same.

I suspect you are sofa king stupid that yoiu think the fecderal government just sends PP money instead of reimburse for services rendered through Medicaid or Title X.

Okay, so what happens to the money they get from donations and other support? It goes to abortions instead of those pelvic exams and breast cancer evaluations.

It's kind of like when we started the lottery here. It was said that some of the profit will go to help the schools in the state. Fine. But what happened is that when the lottery money went to the schools, the state cut state funding to the schools, and they were no further ahead.

Planned Parenthood spends 76% of their budget on STI/STD and contraceptives. Although there is Medicaid coverage, that coverage varies by state. Also, it is not complete coverage either for testing or providing contraception. There are still millions of people with no insurance coverage of any kind. Planned Parenthood picks up what insurance does not cover.

So why would anybody pay lowlifes contraception? If you can't afford to F, then don't F around. It is an option you know.

You aren't very bright. I would thnk it would be cheaper to make sure poor people had access to birth control than pay for benefits they would get to raise those children. But I Forgot,. In Trumpland, Poor people aren't supposed to eat, have a roof over their head, feed their children, or God forbid, have sex.

Not only that, you are calling poor people lowlifes. Yet another judgemental Triumpette asshole blaming poor people for being poor.

If you can't blame poor people for being poor, who can you blame?

Poverty is a situation of having no money or not enough money.
The solution to poverty is to get more money.
You get more money by getting a job. If your job does not pay very much, work more hours.
Only spend money on necessary things. Don't have children you can't afford.

There. Poverty solved if everybody would just follow my advice.

 

[Flopper]

Just how do you think the federal government is funding planned parenthood?

When PP provides a pelvic exam or breast cancer evaluation, they get reimbursed for services rendered through Medicaid or Title X.

Nestle (who owns Gerber) get government money when food stamps are used to buy their product.

So it is the same.

I suspect you are sofa king stupid that yoiu think the fecderal government just sends PP money instead of reimburse for services rendered through Medicaid or Title X.

Okay, so what happens to the money they get from donations and other support? It goes to abortions instead of those pelvic exams and breast cancer evaluations.

It's kind of like when we started the lottery here. It was said that some of the profit will go to help the schools in the state. Fine. But what happened is that when the lottery money went to the schools, the state cut state funding to the schools, and they were no further ahead.

Planned Parenthood spends 76% of their budget on STI/STD and contraceptives. Although there is Medicaid coverage, that coverage varies by state. Also, it is not complete coverage either for testing or providing contraception. There are still millions of people with no insurance coverage of any kind. Planned Parenthood picks up what insurance does not cover.

So why would anybody pay lowlifes contraception? If you can't afford to F, then don't F around. It is an option you know.

Very simple. Birth control in the hands of the poor means less abortions and less unwanted children born to parents that neither want them or can afford to raise them. How can conservatives anxious to reduce government subsidies to the poor and to reduce abortions see more birth control as anything but good?

As I stated so many times, create regulation for those who apply for government assistance. If you want our help, you have to get fixed first. No more going on welfare and keep having kids that taxpayers have to support.

Sandra Fluke was the leader of free birth control. Then it was pointed out to her that BC pills are about nine dollars a month. If you have children you can't support, they should be taken away from the mother and put up for adoption. Nobody has to have sex. That is optional.

It would have to be a law, the American Sterilization Law. Submit to sterilization or starve, part of Trump's Make American Great Again promise.

 

[Flopper]

Just how do you think the federal government is funding planned parenthood?

When PP provides a pelvic exam or breast cancer evaluation, they get reimbursed for services rendered through Medicaid or Title X.

Nestle (who owns Gerber) get government money when food stamps are used to buy their product.

So it is the same.

I suspect you are sofa king stupid that yoiu think the fecderal government just sends PP money instead of reimburse for services rendered through Medicaid or Title X.

Okay, so what happens to the money they get from donations and other support? It goes to abortions instead of those pelvic exams and breast cancer evaluations.

It's kind of like when we started the lottery here. It was said that some of the profit will go to help the schools in the state. Fine. But what happened is that when the lottery money went to the schools, the state cut state funding to the schools, and they were no further ahead.

Planned Parenthood spends 76% of their budget on STI/STD and contraceptives. Although there is Medicaid coverage, that coverage varies by state. Also, it is not complete coverage either for testing or providing contraception. There are still millions of people with no insurance coverage of any kind. Planned Parenthood picks up what insurance does not cover.

So why would anybody pay lowlifes contraception? If you can't afford to F, then don't F around. It is an option you know.

You aren't very bright. I would thnk it would be cheaper to make sure poor people had access to birth control than pay for benefits they would get to raise those children. But I Forgot,. In Trumpland, Poor people aren't supposed to eat, have a roof over their head, feed their children, or God forbid, have sex.

Not only that, you are calling poor people lowlifes. Yet another judgemental Triumpette asshole blaming poor people for being poor.

If you can't blame poor people for being poor, who can you blame?

Poverty is a situation of having no money or not enough money.
The solution to poverty is to get more money.
You get more money by getting a job. If your job does not pay very much, work more hours.
Only spend money on necessary things. Don't have children you can't afford.

There. Poverty solved if everybody would just follow my advice.

Why do have to blame anyone? It's true that any person born into poverty can escape it and many do. However, the fact that our society allows people to escape from poverty does not mean that everyone has what it takes to climb out of a cesspool of drugs, alcohol, abusive parents, poor schools, or crime ridden neighborhoods. It seems more logical to blame the environment because you can do something about that. An adult who was raised in an environment of drugs and alcohol, taught that work is for suckers, and school is a waste of time is very unlikely to change as an adult.

Yes, don't have children you can't afford them. Simple statement but not easy to follow for many. Peer pressure, pressure from parents, and a desire for children clouds peoples judgement. The reasoning is often, I have a job and expect to get a better one but the better job doesn't come but the baby does.

 

[RASTAMEN]

Just how do you think the federal government is funding planned parenthood?

When PP provides a pelvic exam or breast cancer evaluation, they get reimbursed for services rendered through Medicaid or Title X.

Nestle (who owns Gerber) get government money when food stamps are used to buy their product.

So it is the same.

I suspect you are sofa king stupid that yoiu think the fecderal government just sends PP money instead of reimburse for services rendered through Medicaid or Title X.

Okay, so what happens to the money they get from donations and other support? It goes to abortions instead of those pelvic exams and breast cancer evaluations.

It's kind of like when we started the lottery here. It was said that some of the profit will go to help the schools in the state. Fine. But what happened is that when the lottery money went to the schools, the state cut state funding to the schools, and they were no further ahead.

Planned Parenthood spends 76% of their budget on STI/STD and contraceptives. Although there is Medicaid coverage, that coverage varies by state. Also, it is not complete coverage either for testing or providing contraception. There are still millions of people with no insurance coverage of any kind. Planned Parenthood picks up what insurance does not cover.

So why would anybody pay lowlifes contraception? If you can't afford to F, then don't F around. It is an option you know.

You aren't very bright. I would thnk it would be cheaper to make sure poor people had access to birth control than pay for benefits they would get to raise those children. But I Forgot,. In Trumpland, Poor people aren't supposed to eat, have a roof over their head, feed their children, or God forbid, have sex.

Not only that, you are calling poor people lowlifes. Yet another judgemental Triumpette asshole blaming poor people for being poor.

If you can't blame poor people for being poor, who can you blame?

Poverty is a situation of having no money or not enough money.
The solution to poverty is to get more money.
You get more money by getting a job. If your job does not pay very much, work more hours.
Only spend money on necessary things. Don't have children you can't afford.

There. Poverty solved if everybody would just follow my advice.

The solution to poverty is a livable WAGE.


Policy
Will Raising the Minimum Wage Lift Full Time Workers Out of Poverty?

Matt Palumbo
Thursday, October 08, 2015

Critics of the minimum wage used to be able to respond to arguments for raising it by stretching the logic to its extremes. If $10 is so great, why not $20 or $50 an hour? The reductio ad absurdum should cause even the staunchest minimum wage advocate to ponder the potential unintended consequences of their ideas.

Unfortunately, we now live in a world where caricatures have become reality. Sen. Elizabeth Warren wonders why we don’t have a $22 minimum wage (I explain why she doesn’t have much to ponder here), and Sen. Bernie Sanders has now joined the “Fight for Fifteen.”

For the moment, let’s set aside the economic debate over whether the minimum wage costs jobs. (The CBO, majority of economists, and majority of empirical studies pretty much say it all.)

Instead, let’s address Sanders and Warren's moral argument for hiking the minimum wage to such levels: that “no one who works full time should have to live in poverty.”

Given the unintended consequences of the minimum wage, perhaps they would rather have people living in poverty because they can't find work at all.

Regardless, their claim is a normative argument with no positive factual foundation.

For starters, let’s just look at poverty thresholds from 2014 and compare them to what a full time minimum wage worker earns.

Persons in Family/Household

Poverty Guideline

1

$13,420

2

18,090

3

22,760

4

27,430

Excludes Hawaii and Alaska. Add $4,670 for each additional person.


A person working forty hours a week, fifty weeks a year at the federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour would earn $14,500, pre-tax. This is enough to put a single earner over the poverty line, while still being eligible for various benefits like Medicaid and the earned income tax credit (EITC).

The EITC alone raises the effective minimum wage of a single mother with two kids to $10.44 an hour (or to $20,880 a year), so even she wouldn’t be far from the poverty line (again, not counting any other welfare or child support).

Keep in mind also that most minimum wage workers are not supporting families or even themselves. Half of minimum wage workers are below the age of 25, and the average income of the household those earners live in is $65,900 a year. Older minimum wage workers, on average, live in households with incomes over $42,500.

A larger percentage of minimum wage earners do live in homes at or below the poverty line than the national average, but bear in mind that most of them are also working part time.

What difference does working full time make? In 2013, the percentage of full time workers who earned an income below the poverty line was just 2.7 percent, while overall poverty rate (for all Americans, employed or not) was 14.5 percent.

Although it may have been bad politics when Jeb Bush said that Americans should work more hours to earn more, it wasn’t as dumb as the media played it.

In fact, after comparing income with poverty thresholds, the only way someone earning minimum wage could live in poverty would be to not work full time or to have a large family with relatively few earners in the household.

Economist Walter Williams was on to something when he listed his five steps to staying out of poverty: graduate from high school, don’t have children until married, stay married, work any job, and stay out of jail. Williams put the poverty rate among individuals who meet that criteria at 8 percent — the best improvement to his advice would be “work any job — and do it full time.”

In practice, the minimum wage undercuts that route by reducing the number of jobs and encouraging employers to conserve on labor by cutting hours. The argument that “nobody who works full time should live in poverty” ignores the fact that currently hardly anyone does and the reality that raising the minimum wage will make it more difficult for marginal workers to get and keep that employment in the first place.

 

[Flopper]

Okay, so what happens to the money they get from donations and other support? It goes to abortions instead of those pelvic exams and breast cancer evaluations.

It's kind of like when we started the lottery here. It was said that some of the profit will go to help the schools in the state. Fine. But what happened is that when the lottery money went to the schools, the state cut state funding to the schools, and they were no further ahead.

Planned Parenthood spends 76% of their budget on STI/STD and contraceptives. Although there is Medicaid coverage, that coverage varies by state. Also, it is not complete coverage either for testing or providing contraception. There are still millions of people with no insurance coverage of any kind. Planned Parenthood picks up what insurance does not cover.

So why would anybody pay lowlifes contraception? If you can't afford to F, then don't F around. It is an option you know.

You aren't very bright. I would thnk it would be cheaper to make sure poor people had access to birth control than pay for benefits they would get to raise those children. But I Forgot,. In Trumpland, Poor people aren't supposed to eat, have a roof over their head, feed their children, or God forbid, have sex.

Not only that, you are calling poor people lowlifes. Yet another judgemental Triumpette asshole blaming poor people for being poor.

If you can't blame poor people for being poor, who can you blame?

Poverty is a situation of having no money or not enough money.
The solution to poverty is to get more money.
You get more money by getting a job. If your job does not pay very much, work more hours.
Only spend money on necessary things. Don't have children you can't afford.

There. Poverty solved if everybody would just follow my advice.

The solution to poverty is a livable WAGE.


Policy
Will Raising the Minimum Wage Lift Full Time Workers Out of Poverty?

Matt Palumbo
Thursday, October 08, 2015

Critics of the minimum wage used to be able to respond to arguments for raising it by stretching the logic to its extremes. If $10 is so great, why not $20 or $50 an hour? The reductio ad absurdum should cause even the staunchest minimum wage advocate to ponder the potential unintended consequences of their ideas.

Unfortunately, we now live in a world where caricatures have become reality. Sen. Elizabeth Warren wonders why we don’t have a $22 minimum wage (I explain why she doesn’t have much to ponder here), and Sen. Bernie Sanders has now joined the “Fight for Fifteen.”

For the moment, let’s set aside the economic debate over whether the minimum wage costs jobs. (The CBO, majority of economists, and majority of empirical studies pretty much say it all.)

Instead, let’s address Sanders and Warren's moral argument for hiking the minimum wage to such levels: that “no one who works full time should have to live in poverty.”

Given the unintended consequences of the minimum wage, perhaps they would rather have people living in poverty because they can't find work at all.

Regardless, their claim is a normative argument with no positive factual foundation.

For starters, let’s just look at poverty thresholds from 2014 and compare them to what a full time minimum wage worker earns.

Persons in Family/Household

Poverty Guideline

1

$13,420

2

18,090

3

22,760

4

27,430

Excludes Hawaii and Alaska. Add $4,670 for each additional person.


A person working forty hours a week, fifty weeks a year at the federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour would earn $14,500, pre-tax. This is enough to put a single earner over the poverty line, while still being eligible for various benefits like Medicaid and the earned income tax credit (EITC).

The EITC alone raises the effective minimum wage of a single mother with two kids to $10.44 an hour (or to $20,880 a year), so even she wouldn’t be far from the poverty line (again, not counting any other welfare or child support).

Keep in mind also that most minimum wage workers are not supporting families or even themselves. Half of minimum wage workers are below the age of 25, and the average income of the household those earners live in is $65,900 a year. Older minimum wage workers, on average, live in households with incomes over $42,500.

A larger percentage of minimum wage earners do live in homes at or below the poverty line than the national average, but bear in mind that most of them are also working part time.

What difference does working full time make? In 2013, the percentage of full time workers who earned an income below the poverty line was just 2.7 percent, while overall poverty rate (for all Americans, employed or not) was 14.5 percent.

Although it may have been bad politics when Jeb Bush said that Americans should work more hours to earn more, it wasn’t as dumb as the media played it.

In fact, after comparing income with poverty thresholds, the only way someone earning minimum wage could live in poverty would be to not work full time or to have a large family with relatively few earners in the household.

Economist Walter Williams was on to something when he listed his five steps to staying out of poverty: graduate from high school, don’t have children until married, stay married, work any job, and stay out of jail. Williams put the poverty rate among individuals who meet that criteria at 8 percent — the best improvement to his advice would be “work any job — and do it full time.”

In practice, the minimum wage undercuts that route by reducing the number of jobs and encouraging employers to conserve on labor by cutting hours. The argument that “nobody who works full time should live in poverty” ignores the fact that currently hardly anyone does and the reality that raising the minimum wage will make it more difficult for marginal workers to get and keep that employment in the first place.

If you look at places like Seattle who raised their minimum wage to a whooping $15/hr a couple of years ago, two things have happen. At the lower end of the salary scales people are making more money per hour. However, they are working less hours. The net effect is there's a bit more money in their pay envelope and they are working fewer hours to earn it. Have there been a lot of layoffs? No. However, there have been some, mostly marginally productive workers.

The Seattle economy has faired well overall during this period. The unemployment rate has fallen to 2.9%, well below the national average. Real estate markets are booming and more than a 1,000 people a week are moving to Seattle. I think we can conclude that large increases in minimum wage is not necessary accompanied by economic disaster but the desired effect is less than what proponents anticipated.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Okay, so what happens to the money they get from donations and other support? It goes to abortions instead of those pelvic exams and breast cancer evaluations.

It's kind of like when we started the lottery here. It was said that some of the profit will go to help the schools in the state. Fine. But what happened is that when the lottery money went to the schools, the state cut state funding to the schools, and they were no further ahead.

Planned Parenthood spends 76% of their budget on STI/STD and contraceptives. Although there is Medicaid coverage, that coverage varies by state. Also, it is not complete coverage either for testing or providing contraception. There are still millions of people with no insurance coverage of any kind. Planned Parenthood picks up what insurance does not cover.

So why would anybody pay lowlifes contraception? If you can't afford to F, then don't F around. It is an option you know.

You aren't very bright. I would thnk it would be cheaper to make sure poor people had access to birth control than pay for benefits they would get to raise those children. But I Forgot,. In Trumpland, Poor people aren't supposed to eat, have a roof over their head, feed their children, or God forbid, have sex.

Not only that, you are calling poor people lowlifes. Yet another judgemental Triumpette asshole blaming poor people for being poor.

If you can't blame poor people for being poor, who can you blame?

Poverty is a situation of having no money or not enough money.
The solution to poverty is to get more money.
You get more money by getting a job. If your job does not pay very much, work more hours.
Only spend money on necessary things. Don't have children you can't afford.

There. Poverty solved if everybody would just follow my advice.

Why do have to blame anyone? It's true that any person born into poverty can escape it and many do. However, the fact that our society allows people to escape from poverty does not mean that everyone has what it takes to climb out of a cesspool of drugs, alcohol, abusive parents, poor schools, or crime ridden neighborhoods. It seems more logical to blame the environment because you can do something about that. An adult who was raised in an environment of drugs and alcohol, taught that work is for suckers, and school is a waste of time is very unlikely to change as an adult.

Yes, don't have children you can't afford them. Simple statement but not easy to follow for many. Peer pressure, pressure from parents, and a desire for children clouds peoples judgement. The reasoning is often, I have a job and expect to get a better one but the better job doesn't come but the baby does.

Then do tell, why is it I never felt the peer pressure, pressure from my parents, or a clouded desire to have children I couldn't afford?

Children look to their parents as mentors of sorts. Kids born to a wealth family eventually learn that education is everything to maintain the lifestyle they were raised in, so they study. Middle-class children eventually learn to learn a trade or profession so they can maintain their lifestyle as an adult like their parents. Poor kids? Get pregnant, apply for every government assistant program, and stay single to get more government benefits.

Many people do not escape poverty. In fact, the so-called war on poverty started over 50 years ago, and trillions of dollars later, we don't have that much lower of a percentage of poor people than we had back then.

Robert Rector: How the War on Poverty Was Lost

 

[Flopper]

Planned Parenthood spends 76% of their budget on STI/STD and contraceptives. Although there is Medicaid coverage, that coverage varies by state. Also, it is not complete coverage either for testing or providing contraception. There are still millions of people with no insurance coverage of any kind. Planned Parenthood picks up what insurance does not cover.

So why would anybody pay lowlifes contraception? If you can't afford to F, then don't F around. It is an option you know.

You aren't very bright. I would thnk it would be cheaper to make sure poor people had access to birth control than pay for benefits they would get to raise those children. But I Forgot,. In Trumpland, Poor people aren't supposed to eat, have a roof over their head, feed their children, or God forbid, have sex.

Not only that, you are calling poor people lowlifes. Yet another judgemental Triumpette asshole blaming poor people for being poor.

If you can't blame poor people for being poor, who can you blame?

Poverty is a situation of having no money or not enough money.
The solution to poverty is to get more money.
You get more money by getting a job. If your job does not pay very much, work more hours.
Only spend money on necessary things. Don't have children you can't afford.

There. Poverty solved if everybody would just follow my advice.

Why do have to blame anyone? It's true that any person born into poverty can escape it and many do. However, the fact that our society allows people to escape from poverty does not mean that everyone has what it takes to climb out of a cesspool of drugs, alcohol, abusive parents, poor schools, or crime ridden neighborhoods. It seems more logical to blame the environment because you can do something about that. An adult who was raised in an environment of drugs and alcohol, taught that work is for suckers, and school is a waste of time is very unlikely to change as an adult.

Yes, don't have children you can't afford them. Simple statement but not easy to follow for many. Peer pressure, pressure from parents, and a desire for children clouds peoples judgement. The reasoning is often, I have a job and expect to get a better one but the better job doesn't come but the baby does.

Then do tell, why is it I never felt the peer pressure, pressure from my parents, or a clouded desire to have children I couldn't afford?

Children look to their parents as mentors of sorts. Kids born to a wealth family eventually learn that education is everything to maintain the lifestyle they were raised in, so they study. Middle-class children eventually learn to learn a trade or profession so they can maintain their lifestyle as an adult like their parents. Poor kids? Get pregnant, apply for every government assistant program, and stay single to get more government benefits.

Many people do not escape poverty. In fact, the so-called war on poverty started over 50 years ago, and trillions of dollars later, we don't have that much lower of a percentage of poor people than we had back then.

Robert Rector: How the War on Poverty Was Lost

Not knowing you, I have no idea why you would or would not respond to peer pressure. Even thou I don't know you, comparing yourself to people like a poor black kid in South LA, raised by his working mother on drugs, in and out of trouble with the police, and who barely got out of high school is probably not a good comparison.

It is completely ridiculous to think cutting off welfare money is going result in a job sufficient to support his wife and three kids. In reality, what happens, the kid takes off, like his dad did leaving Mom and the kids to fend for themselves. Most people like this are in this situation because they had parents who weren't willing or capable of doing what is necessary to insure their kids have a better life than they have.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So why would anybody pay lowlifes contraception? If you can't afford to F, then don't F around. It is an option you know.

You aren't very bright. I would thnk it would be cheaper to make sure poor people had access to birth control than pay for benefits they would get to raise those children. But I Forgot,. In Trumpland, Poor people aren't supposed to eat, have a roof over their head, feed their children, or God forbid, have sex.

Not only that, you are calling poor people lowlifes. Yet another judgemental Triumpette asshole blaming poor people for being poor.

If you can't blame poor people for being poor, who can you blame?

Poverty is a situation of having no money or not enough money.
The solution to poverty is to get more money.
You get more money by getting a job. If your job does not pay very much, work more hours.
Only spend money on necessary things. Don't have children you can't afford.

There. Poverty solved if everybody would just follow my advice.

Why do have to blame anyone? It's true that any person born into poverty can escape it and many do. However, the fact that our society allows people to escape from poverty does not mean that everyone has what it takes to climb out of a cesspool of drugs, alcohol, abusive parents, poor schools, or crime ridden neighborhoods. It seems more logical to blame the environment because you can do something about that. An adult who was raised in an environment of drugs and alcohol, taught that work is for suckers, and school is a waste of time is very unlikely to change as an adult.

Yes, don't have children you can't afford them. Simple statement but not easy to follow for many. Peer pressure, pressure from parents, and a desire for children clouds peoples judgement. The reasoning is often, I have a job and expect to get a better one but the better job doesn't come but the baby does.

Then do tell, why is it I never felt the peer pressure, pressure from my parents, or a clouded desire to have children I couldn't afford?

Children look to their parents as mentors of sorts. Kids born to a wealth family eventually learn that education is everything to maintain the lifestyle they were raised in, so they study. Middle-class children eventually learn to learn a trade or profession so they can maintain their lifestyle as an adult like their parents. Poor kids? Get pregnant, apply for every government assistant program, and stay single to get more government benefits.

Many people do not escape poverty. In fact, the so-called war on poverty started over 50 years ago, and trillions of dollars later, we don't have that much lower of a percentage of poor people than we had back then.

Robert Rector: How the War on Poverty Was Lost

Not knowing you, I have no idea why you would or would not respond to peer pressure. Even thou I don't know you, comparing yourself to people like a poor black kid in South LA, raised by his working mother on drugs, in and out of trouble with the police, and who barely got out of high school is probably not a good comparison.

It is completely ridiculous to think cutting off welfare money is going result in a job sufficient to support his wife and three kids. In reality, what happens, the kid takes off, like his dad did leaving Mom and the kids to fend for themselves. Most people like this are in this situation because they had parents who weren't willing or capable of doing what is necessary to insure their kids have a better life than they have.

This is true, however the best way to insure that you don't bring up a kid in poverty is to have a two-parent household. Poverty and single-parent households are in direct relation to each other. Today, it's fashionable to be a single mother right from the beginning. They are not shunned from family, not shunned by neighbors, and in fact congratulated frequently by those people. Some even have parties in school over the pregnancy including the teacher.

Statistically, that black kid in south LA is from a single-parent home. Blacks have a 70% out of wedlock birthrate in this country, and probably areas like South LA have a 90% out of wedlock birthrate.

Ask yourself and be honest here: what if our economy collapsed? The US could no longer borrow money for our social programs. They had to come to a complete halt. Do you think we would see a sharp decrease in single mother pregnancies or it would stay the same?

 

[RealDave]

Planned Parenthood spends 76% of their budget on STI/STD and contraceptives. Although there is Medicaid coverage, that coverage varies by state. Also, it is not complete coverage either for testing or providing contraception. There are still millions of people with no insurance coverage of any kind. Planned Parenthood picks up what insurance does not cover.

So why would anybody pay lowlifes contraception? If you can't afford to F, then don't F around. It is an option you know.

You aren't very bright. I would thnk it would be cheaper to make sure poor people had access to birth control than pay for benefits they would get to raise those children. But I Forgot,. In Trumpland, Poor people aren't supposed to eat, have a roof over their head, feed their children, or God forbid, have sex.

Not only that, you are calling poor people lowlifes. Yet another judgemental Triumpette asshole blaming poor people for being poor.

If you can't blame poor people for being poor, who can you blame?

Poverty is a situation of having no money or not enough money.
The solution to poverty is to get more money.
You get more money by getting a job. If your job does not pay very much, work more hours.
Only spend money on necessary things. Don't have children you can't afford.

There. Poverty solved if everybody would just follow my advice.

Why do have to blame anyone? It's true that any person born into poverty can escape it and many do. However, the fact that our society allows people to escape from poverty does not mean that everyone has what it takes to climb out of a cesspool of drugs, alcohol, abusive parents, poor schools, or crime ridden neighborhoods. It seems more logical to blame the environment because you can do something about that. An adult who was raised in an environment of drugs and alcohol, taught that work is for suckers, and school is a waste of time is very unlikely to change as an adult.

Yes, don't have children you can't afford them. Simple statement but not easy to follow for many. Peer pressure, pressure from parents, and a desire for children clouds peoples judgement. The reasoning is often, I have a job and expect to get a better one but the better job doesn't come but the baby does.

Then do tell, why is it I never felt the peer pressure, pressure from my parents, or a clouded desire to have children I couldn't afford?

Children look to their parents as mentors of sorts. Kids born to a wealth family eventually learn that education is everything to maintain the lifestyle they were raised in, so they study. Middle-class children eventually learn to learn a trade or profession so they can maintain their lifestyle as an adult like their parents. Poor kids? Get pregnant, apply for every government assistant program, and stay single to get more government benefits.

Many people do not escape poverty. In fact, the so-called war on poverty started over 50 years ago, and trillions of dollars later, we don't have that much lower of a percentage of poor people than we had back then.

Robert Rector: How the War on Poverty Was Lost

TANF - the part where the benefit is actual money, is usually considered to be "welfare" is temporary (note the "T" in TANF). There is a lifetime limit. The vast majority get off TANF through employment.

Working people can get food stamps, housing assistance, heat assistance, Medicaid.

Your problem is that you think that the poor people in welfare never changes. The truth is that people enter into welfare & leave it all the time.
You want a permit to have kids so you can judge which people should have them. But then you are one that bitches 24/7 about organizations like Planned Parenthood who helps poor people get good, reliable contraception.

You really need to learn the relationship between contraception & birth rate.

Some people can afford kids when they have them. then some corporation closes their workplace & they need help. Maybe the bread winner gets an illness or dies. You don;t know but that does not stop you from being judge.

 

[RealDave]

You aren't very bright. I would thnk it would be cheaper to make sure poor people had access to birth control than pay for benefits they would get to raise those children. But I Forgot,. In Trumpland, Poor people aren't supposed to eat, have a roof over their head, feed their children, or God forbid, have sex.

Not only that, you are calling poor people lowlifes. Yet another judgemental Triumpette asshole blaming poor people for being poor.

If you can't blame poor people for being poor, who can you blame?

Poverty is a situation of having no money or not enough money.
The solution to poverty is to get more money.
You get more money by getting a job. If your job does not pay very much, work more hours.
Only spend money on necessary things. Don't have children you can't afford.

There. Poverty solved if everybody would just follow my advice.

Why do have to blame anyone? It's true that any person born into poverty can escape it and many do. However, the fact that our society allows people to escape from poverty does not mean that everyone has what it takes to climb out of a cesspool of drugs, alcohol, abusive parents, poor schools, or crime ridden neighborhoods. It seems more logical to blame the environment because you can do something about that. An adult who was raised in an environment of drugs and alcohol, taught that work is for suckers, and school is a waste of time is very unlikely to change as an adult.

Yes, don't have children you can't afford them. Simple statement but not easy to follow for many. Peer pressure, pressure from parents, and a desire for children clouds peoples judgement. The reasoning is often, I have a job and expect to get a better one but the better job doesn't come but the baby does.

Then do tell, why is it I never felt the peer pressure, pressure from my parents, or a clouded desire to have children I couldn't afford?

Children look to their parents as mentors of sorts. Kids born to a wealth family eventually learn that education is everything to maintain the lifestyle they were raised in, so they study. Middle-class children eventually learn to learn a trade or profession so they can maintain their lifestyle as an adult like their parents. Poor kids? Get pregnant, apply for every government assistant program, and stay single to get more government benefits.

Many people do not escape poverty. In fact, the so-called war on poverty started over 50 years ago, and trillions of dollars later, we don't have that much lower of a percentage of poor people than we had back then.

Robert Rector: How the War on Poverty Was Lost

Not knowing you, I have no idea why you would or would not respond to peer pressure. Even thou I don't know you, comparing yourself to people like a poor black kid in South LA, raised by his working mother on drugs, in and out of trouble with the police, and who barely got out of high school is probably not a good comparison.

It is completely ridiculous to think cutting off welfare money is going result in a job sufficient to support his wife and three kids. In reality, what happens, the kid takes off, like his dad did leaving Mom and the kids to fend for themselves. Most people like this are in this situation because they had parents who weren't willing or capable of doing what is necessary to insure their kids have a better life than they have.

This is true, however the best way to insure that you don't bring up a kid in poverty is to have a two-parent household. Poverty and single-parent households are in direct relation to each other. Today, it's fashionable to be a single mother right from the beginning. They are not shunned from family, not shunned by neighbors, and in fact congratulated frequently by those people. Some even have parties in school over the pregnancy including the teacher.

Statistically, that black kid in south LA is from a single-parent home. Blacks have a 70% out of wedlock birthrate in this country, and probably areas like South LA have a 90% out of wedlock birthrate.

Ask yourself and be honest here: what if our economy collapsed? The US could no longer borrow money for our social programs. They had to come to a complete halt. Do you think we would see a sharp decrease in single mother pregnancies or it would stay the same?

I was raised in a single mother family of four kids. I see you don't approve.

 

[RealDave]

Just how do you think the federal government is funding planned parenthood?

When PP provides a pelvic exam or breast cancer evaluation, they get reimbursed for services rendered through Medicaid or Title X.

Nestle (who owns Gerber) get government money when food stamps are used to buy their product.

So it is the same.

I suspect you are sofa king stupid that yoiu think the fecderal government just sends PP money instead of reimburse for services rendered through Medicaid or Title X.

Okay, so what happens to the money they get from donations and other support? It goes to abortions instead of those pelvic exams and breast cancer evaluations.

It's kind of like when we started the lottery here. It was said that some of the profit will go to help the schools in the state. Fine. But what happened is that when the lottery money went to the schools, the state cut state funding to the schools, and they were no further ahead.

Planned Parenthood spends 76% of their budget on STI/STD and contraceptives. Although there is Medicaid coverage, that coverage varies by state. Also, it is not complete coverage either for testing or providing contraception. There are still millions of people with no insurance coverage of any kind. Planned Parenthood picks up what insurance does not cover.

So why would anybody pay lowlifes contraception? If you can't afford to F, then don't F around. It is an option you know.

You aren't very bright. I would thnk it would be cheaper to make sure poor people had access to birth control than pay for benefits they would get to raise those children. But I Forgot,. In Trumpland, Poor people aren't supposed to eat, have a roof over their head, feed their children, or God forbid, have sex.

Not only that, you are calling poor people lowlifes. Yet another judgemental Triumpette asshole blaming poor people for being poor.

If you can't blame poor people for being poor, who can you blame?

Poverty is a situation of having no money or not enough money.
The solution to poverty is to get more money.
You get more money by getting a job. If your job does not pay very much, work more hours.
Only spend money on necessary things. Don't have children you can't afford.

There. Poverty solved if everybody would just follow my advice.

Unless you were born & raised in a poor family, you have no fucking clue what it is like .

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So why would anybody pay lowlifes contraception? If you can't afford to F, then don't F around. It is an option you know.

You aren't very bright. I would thnk it would be cheaper to make sure poor people had access to birth control than pay for benefits they would get to raise those children. But I Forgot,. In Trumpland, Poor people aren't supposed to eat, have a roof over their head, feed their children, or God forbid, have sex.

Not only that, you are calling poor people lowlifes. Yet another judgemental Triumpette asshole blaming poor people for being poor.

If you can't blame poor people for being poor, who can you blame?

Poverty is a situation of having no money or not enough money.
The solution to poverty is to get more money.
You get more money by getting a job. If your job does not pay very much, work more hours.
Only spend money on necessary things. Don't have children you can't afford.

There. Poverty solved if everybody would just follow my advice.

Why do have to blame anyone? It's true that any person born into poverty can escape it and many do. However, the fact that our society allows people to escape from poverty does not mean that everyone has what it takes to climb out of a cesspool of drugs, alcohol, abusive parents, poor schools, or crime ridden neighborhoods. It seems more logical to blame the environment because you can do something about that. An adult who was raised in an environment of drugs and alcohol, taught that work is for suckers, and school is a waste of time is very unlikely to change as an adult.

Yes, don't have children you can't afford them. Simple statement but not easy to follow for many. Peer pressure, pressure from parents, and a desire for children clouds peoples judgement. The reasoning is often, I have a job and expect to get a better one but the better job doesn't come but the baby does.

Then do tell, why is it I never felt the peer pressure, pressure from my parents, or a clouded desire to have children I couldn't afford?

Children look to their parents as mentors of sorts. Kids born to a wealth family eventually learn that education is everything to maintain the lifestyle they were raised in, so they study. Middle-class children eventually learn to learn a trade or profession so they can maintain their lifestyle as an adult like their parents. Poor kids? Get pregnant, apply for every government assistant program, and stay single to get more government benefits.

Many people do not escape poverty. In fact, the so-called war on poverty started over 50 years ago, and trillions of dollars later, we don't have that much lower of a percentage of poor people than we had back then.

Robert Rector: How the War on Poverty Was Lost

TANF - the part where the benefit is actual money, is usually considered to be "welfare" is temporary (note the "T" in TANF). There is a lifetime limit. The vast majority get off TANF through employment.

Working people can get food stamps, housing assistance, heat assistance, Medicaid.

Your problem is that you think that the poor people in welfare never changes. The truth is that people enter into welfare & leave it all the time.
You want a permit to have kids so you can judge which people should have them. But then you are one that bitches 24/7 about organizations like Planned Parenthood who helps poor people get good, reliable contraception.

You really need to learn the relationship between contraception & birth rate.

Some people can afford kids when they have them. then some corporation closes their workplace & they need help. Maybe the bread winner gets an illness or dies. You don;t know but that does not stop you from being judge.

I go by what I see and what I've experienced. Perhaps maybe about one out of ten people I see using food stamps I could actually say needed them. My last experience was two weeks ago. There was some lowlife in line asking us if he could use his SNAP's card to buy our items for us, and then we would pay him cash to get our items from him so he could have some drinking money.

(CNSNews.com) – House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Thursday that the testimony Georgetown law student Sandra Fluke gave Pelosi on Feb. 23 in the Democratic Steering and Policy Committee was “factual” and that she has "a great deal of respect" for it.

Fluke testified that contraception can cost a law student $3,000 over three years, when in fact the Target store just 3 miles from the Georgetown Law School campus sells a month's supply of birth control pills for only $9 to people whose insurance does not cover contraception.

Pelosi: Fluke’s $3,000 Contraception Testimony 'Factual'--Despite $9-Per-Month Birth Control Pills

Do you know how you can make nine dollars? Work at Walmart for three hours a month.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If you can't blame poor people for being poor, who can you blame?

Poverty is a situation of having no money or not enough money.
The solution to poverty is to get more money.
You get more money by getting a job. If your job does not pay very much, work more hours.
Only spend money on necessary things. Don't have children you can't afford.

There. Poverty solved if everybody would just follow my advice.

Why do have to blame anyone? It's true that any person born into poverty can escape it and many do. However, the fact that our society allows people to escape from poverty does not mean that everyone has what it takes to climb out of a cesspool of drugs, alcohol, abusive parents, poor schools, or crime ridden neighborhoods. It seems more logical to blame the environment because you can do something about that. An adult who was raised in an environment of drugs and alcohol, taught that work is for suckers, and school is a waste of time is very unlikely to change as an adult.

Yes, don't have children you can't afford them. Simple statement but not easy to follow for many. Peer pressure, pressure from parents, and a desire for children clouds peoples judgement. The reasoning is often, I have a job and expect to get a better one but the better job doesn't come but the baby does.

Then do tell, why is it I never felt the peer pressure, pressure from my parents, or a clouded desire to have children I couldn't afford?

Children look to their parents as mentors of sorts. Kids born to a wealth family eventually learn that education is everything to maintain the lifestyle they were raised in, so they study. Middle-class children eventually learn to learn a trade or profession so they can maintain their lifestyle as an adult like their parents. Poor kids? Get pregnant, apply for every government assistant program, and stay single to get more government benefits.

Many people do not escape poverty. In fact, the so-called war on poverty started over 50 years ago, and trillions of dollars later, we don't have that much lower of a percentage of poor people than we had back then.

Robert Rector: How the War on Poverty Was Lost

Not knowing you, I have no idea why you would or would not respond to peer pressure. Even thou I don't know you, comparing yourself to people like a poor black kid in South LA, raised by his working mother on drugs, in and out of trouble with the police, and who barely got out of high school is probably not a good comparison.

It is completely ridiculous to think cutting off welfare money is going result in a job sufficient to support his wife and three kids. In reality, what happens, the kid takes off, like his dad did leaving Mom and the kids to fend for themselves. Most people like this are in this situation because they had parents who weren't willing or capable of doing what is necessary to insure their kids have a better life than they have.

This is true, however the best way to insure that you don't bring up a kid in poverty is to have a two-parent household. Poverty and single-parent households are in direct relation to each other. Today, it's fashionable to be a single mother right from the beginning. They are not shunned from family, not shunned by neighbors, and in fact congratulated frequently by those people. Some even have parties in school over the pregnancy including the teacher.

Statistically, that black kid in south LA is from a single-parent home. Blacks have a 70% out of wedlock birthrate in this country, and probably areas like South LA have a 90% out of wedlock birthrate.

Ask yourself and be honest here: what if our economy collapsed? The US could no longer borrow money for our social programs. They had to come to a complete halt. Do you think we would see a sharp decrease in single mother pregnancies or it would stay the same?

I was raised in a single mother family of four kids. I see you don't approve.

It has nothing to do with whether I approve or not. I'm just pointing out statistics. If you want to really do something about poverty, then you look at how poverty starts.

I'm just your average working guy. I don't make great money, but enough to support myself. How is it that I'm not in poverty and others are? Is it my race? Is it the schools I attended? Is it the neighborhood I was raised in? Or is it because of hard work and decisions I made in life?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Unless you were born & raised in a poor family, you have no fucking clue what it is like .

Correct, I don't know what it's like, but my father does.

My father and his five siblings were brought up in a house about the size of a three car garage. They had no running water, and used n outhouse in the back yard. Not exactly torture in the summer, but being next to Lake Erie in the winter brings a lot of snow, and waking up at 2:00 am to use the toilet was an experience. They were on welfare, but welfare back then meant pulling your red wagon to the fire station five miles down the street, and they would fill it with fruits and vegetables.

When the older siblings got to working age, they quit school to help support the rest of the family. My father joined the Marines just so he could have three meals a day and of course, send the little money they paid him back home.

My father nor any of his siblings ever spent time in prison. Most of them got into the construction field, and the youngest brother eventually opened up his own beauty salon. My one uncle started his own remodeling business which he handed down to his son when he retired part-time.

Okay, that was then and this is now! All you have to do is talk to an owner of a seven-eleven, sub sandwich place, or beverage store who's owners are foreigners. They came from real poverty. They moved to the US because of the opportunities available here, and surpassed many native born Americans when it comes to financial success.

 

[RASTAMEN]

Planned Parenthood spends 76% of their budget on STI/STD and contraceptives. Although there is Medicaid coverage, that coverage varies by state. Also, it is not complete coverage either for testing or providing contraception. There are still millions of people with no insurance coverage of any kind. Planned Parenthood picks up what insurance does not cover.

So why would anybody pay lowlifes contraception? If you can't afford to F, then don't F around. It is an option you know.

You aren't very bright. I would thnk it would be cheaper to make sure poor people had access to birth control than pay for benefits they would get to raise those children. But I Forgot,. In Trumpland, Poor people aren't supposed to eat, have a roof over their head, feed their children, or God forbid, have sex.

Not only that, you are calling poor people lowlifes. Yet another judgemental Triumpette asshole blaming poor people for being poor.

If you can't blame poor people for being poor, who can you blame?

Poverty is a situation of having no money or not enough money.
The solution to poverty is to get more money.
You get more money by getting a job. If your job does not pay very much, work more hours.
Only spend money on necessary things. Don't have children you can't afford.

There. Poverty solved if everybody would just follow my advice.

Why do have to blame anyone? It's true that any person born into poverty can escape it and many do. However, the fact that our society allows people to escape from poverty does not mean that everyone has what it takes to climb out of a cesspool of drugs, alcohol, abusive parents, poor schools, or crime ridden neighborhoods. It seems more logical to blame the environment because you can do something about that. An adult who was raised in an environment of drugs and alcohol, taught that work is for suckers, and school is a waste of time is very unlikely to change as an adult.

Yes, don't have children you can't afford them. Simple statement but not easy to follow for many. Peer pressure, pressure from parents, and a desire for children clouds peoples judgement. The reasoning is often, I have a job and expect to get a better one but the better job doesn't come but the baby does.

Then do tell, why is it I never felt the peer pressure, pressure from my parents, or a clouded desire to have children I couldn't afford?

Children look to their parents as mentors of sorts. Kids born to a wealth family eventually learn that education is everything to maintain the lifestyle they were raised in, so they study. Middle-class children eventually learn to learn a trade or profession so they can maintain their lifestyle as an adult like their parents. Poor kids? Get pregnant, apply for every government assistant program, and stay single to get more government benefits.

Many people do not escape poverty. In fact, the so-called war on poverty started over 50 years ago, and trillions of dollars later, we don't have that much lower of a percentage of poor people than we had back then.

Robert Rector: How the War on Poverty Was Lost

The War on Poverty Was Lost due to Coporate Greed and Predatory Capitalism.

 

[RealDave]

Unless you were born & raised in a poor family, you have no fucking clue what it is like .

Correct, I don't know what it's like, but my father does.

My father and his five siblings were brought up in a house about the size of a three car garage. They had no running water, and used n outhouse in the back yard. Not exactly torture in the summer, but being next to Lake Erie in the winter brings a lot of snow, and waking up at 2:00 am to use the toilet was an experience. They were on welfare, but welfare back then meant pulling your red wagon to the fire station five miles down the street, and they would fill it with fruits and vegetables.

When the older siblings got to working age, they quit school to help support the rest of the family. My father joined the Marines just so he could have three meals a day and of course, send the little money they paid him back home.

My father nor any of his siblings ever spent time in prison. Most of them got into the construction field, and the youngest brother eventually opened up his own beauty salon. My one uncle started his own remodeling business which he handed down to his son when he retired part-time.

Okay, that was then and this is now! All you have to do is talk to an owner of a seven-eleven, sub sandwich place, or beverage store who's owners are foreigners. They came from real poverty. They moved to the US because of the opportunities available here, and surpassed many native born Americans when it comes to financial success.

So, your father was one of the lazy fuck moochers that you now rail against.

 

[Flopper]

You aren't very bright. I would thnk it would be cheaper to make sure poor people had access to birth control than pay for benefits they would get to raise those children. But I Forgot,. In Trumpland, Poor people aren't supposed to eat, have a roof over their head, feed their children, or God forbid, have sex.

Not only that, you are calling poor people lowlifes. Yet another judgemental Triumpette asshole blaming poor people for being poor.

If you can't blame poor people for being poor, who can you blame?

Poverty is a situation of having no money or not enough money.
The solution to poverty is to get more money.
You get more money by getting a job. If your job does not pay very much, work more hours.
Only spend money on necessary things. Don't have children you can't afford.

There. Poverty solved if everybody would just follow my advice.

Why do have to blame anyone? It's true that any person born into poverty can escape it and many do. However, the fact that our society allows people to escape from poverty does not mean that everyone has what it takes to climb out of a cesspool of drugs, alcohol, abusive parents, poor schools, or crime ridden neighborhoods. It seems more logical to blame the environment because you can do something about that. An adult who was raised in an environment of drugs and alcohol, taught that work is for suckers, and school is a waste of time is very unlikely to change as an adult.

Yes, don't have children you can't afford them. Simple statement but not easy to follow for many. Peer pressure, pressure from parents, and a desire for children clouds peoples judgement. The reasoning is often, I have a job and expect to get a better one but the better job doesn't come but the baby does.

Then do tell, why is it I never felt the peer pressure, pressure from my parents, or a clouded desire to have children I couldn't afford?

Children look to their parents as mentors of sorts. Kids born to a wealth family eventually learn that education is everything to maintain the lifestyle they were raised in, so they study. Middle-class children eventually learn to learn a trade or profession so they can maintain their lifestyle as an adult like their parents. Poor kids? Get pregnant, apply for every government assistant program, and stay single to get more government benefits.

Many people do not escape poverty. In fact, the so-called war on poverty started over 50 years ago, and trillions of dollars later, we don't have that much lower of a percentage of poor people than we had back then.

Robert Rector: How the War on Poverty Was Lost

Not knowing you, I have no idea why you would or would not respond to peer pressure. Even thou I don't know you, comparing yourself to people like a poor black kid in South LA, raised by his working mother on drugs, in and out of trouble with the police, and who barely got out of high school is probably not a good comparison.

It is completely ridiculous to think cutting off welfare money is going result in a job sufficient to support his wife and three kids. In reality, what happens, the kid takes off, like his dad did leaving Mom and the kids to fend for themselves. Most people like this are in this situation because they had parents who weren't willing or capable of doing what is necessary to insure their kids have a better life than they have.

This is true, however the best way to insure that you don't bring up a kid in poverty is to have a two-parent household. Poverty and single-parent households are in direct relation to each other. Today, it's fashionable to be a single mother right from the beginning. They are not shunned from family, not shunned by neighbors, and in fact congratulated frequently by those people. Some even have parties in school over the pregnancy including the teacher.

Statistically, that black kid in south LA is from a single-parent home. Blacks have a 70% out of wedlock birthrate in this country, and probably areas like South LA have a 90% out of wedlock birthrate.

Ask yourself and be honest here: what if our economy collapsed? The US could no longer borrow money for our social programs. They had to come to a complete halt. Do you think we would see a sharp decrease in single mother pregnancies or it would stay the same?

In 2008 we had the biggest economic bust since the great depression followed by the biggest increase in government spending. The US economy is still one of strongest in world and the US dollar one of the safest. Why? Because the rest the world is worse off. As long as the US is better by comparison there will be no collapse.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If you can't blame poor people for being poor, who can you blame?

Poverty is a situation of having no money or not enough money.
The solution to poverty is to get more money.
You get more money by getting a job. If your job does not pay very much, work more hours.
Only spend money on necessary things. Don't have children you can't afford.

There. Poverty solved if everybody would just follow my advice.

Why do have to blame anyone? It's true that any person born into poverty can escape it and many do. However, the fact that our society allows people to escape from poverty does not mean that everyone has what it takes to climb out of a cesspool of drugs, alcohol, abusive parents, poor schools, or crime ridden neighborhoods. It seems more logical to blame the environment because you can do something about that. An adult who was raised in an environment of drugs and alcohol, taught that work is for suckers, and school is a waste of time is very unlikely to change as an adult.

Yes, don't have children you can't afford them. Simple statement but not easy to follow for many. Peer pressure, pressure from parents, and a desire for children clouds peoples judgement. The reasoning is often, I have a job and expect to get a better one but the better job doesn't come but the baby does.

Then do tell, why is it I never felt the peer pressure, pressure from my parents, or a clouded desire to have children I couldn't afford?

Children look to their parents as mentors of sorts. Kids born to a wealth family eventually learn that education is everything to maintain the lifestyle they were raised in, so they study. Middle-class children eventually learn to learn a trade or profession so they can maintain their lifestyle as an adult like their parents. Poor kids? Get pregnant, apply for every government assistant program, and stay single to get more government benefits.

Many people do not escape poverty. In fact, the so-called war on poverty started over 50 years ago, and trillions of dollars later, we don't have that much lower of a percentage of poor people than we had back then.

Robert Rector: How the War on Poverty Was Lost

Not knowing you, I have no idea why you would or would not respond to peer pressure. Even thou I don't know you, comparing yourself to people like a poor black kid in South LA, raised by his working mother on drugs, in and out of trouble with the police, and who barely got out of high school is probably not a good comparison.

It is completely ridiculous to think cutting off welfare money is going result in a job sufficient to support his wife and three kids. In reality, what happens, the kid takes off, like his dad did leaving Mom and the kids to fend for themselves. Most people like this are in this situation because they had parents who weren't willing or capable of doing what is necessary to insure their kids have a better life than they have.

This is true, however the best way to insure that you don't bring up a kid in poverty is to have a two-parent household. Poverty and single-parent households are in direct relation to each other. Today, it's fashionable to be a single mother right from the beginning. They are not shunned from family, not shunned by neighbors, and in fact congratulated frequently by those people. Some even have parties in school over the pregnancy including the teacher.

Statistically, that black kid in south LA is from a single-parent home. Blacks have a 70% out of wedlock birthrate in this country, and probably areas like South LA have a 90% out of wedlock birthrate.

Ask yourself and be honest here: what if our economy collapsed? The US could no longer borrow money for our social programs. They had to come to a complete halt. Do you think we would see a sharp decrease in single mother pregnancies or it would stay the same?

In 2008 we had the biggest economic bust since the great depression followed by the biggest increase in government spending. The US economy is still one of strongest in world and the US dollar one of the safest. Why? Because the rest the world is worse off. As long as the US is better by comparison there will be no collapse.

And the reason you believe that is because you've never experienced it.....yet. The people of Greece probably felt the same way at one time.

Not long after our recession, we lost our three star credit rating for the first time in US history. Nobody will loan you money you have no ability to repay, and right now, we are living off of borrowed money.

The key to collapse is if the US keeps paying non-producers and robbing the producers. That's because the non-producers will not produce as long as you're paying them not to, and the producers give up and leave the country because they are sick of being penalized for their success.

Socialism is a great form of government until you run out of other people's money to spend, and we ran out long time ago.