If you secede, you forfeit your SS and Medicare

[JWBooth]

It's not treason per the constitution. It was treason per Dishonest Abe.

It was treason per the Supreme Court in Texas v. White.

Would that be the same Supreme Court that upheld the alien and sedition acts? The same court that required Northern states to return slaves to their Southern owners, leading to nullification by Northern states?

Whatever you say...

Dredd Scott....?

 

[occupied]

Yeah and it gets worse.

Farmers, corporations, small businesses, universities, law enforcement would crumble without federal aid. The federal government would halt all grants, contracts, matching funds and tax breaks.

The US would impose sanctions on the recalcitrant states: power grids, pipelines, shipping lanes, satellite and internet communications would be blocked. Without federal regulations on food safety, clean water, clean air and without the Center for Disease Control, rampant disease would spread. Inflation on medicines would skyrocket as the demand increased. Black markets would spring up in every town.

The individual states economies aren't capable of competing in the global market. Eventually, the states which seceded would be reduced to third world status. The good news is China, which has been known to support rogue countries over the years, would probably continue to stock the shelves of the Walmarts with all their cheap crap....... although the seceded states debt to China would then quadruple from what it is now.....

I don't whether to laugh uproariously or be scared to death that you actually believe all that crap.

I agree. I'm sitting here LMAO at his posts. My God. He thinks no one could survive without the Govt??

Holy Fuck. What planet does he live on??

What planet do you live on where you think it would be better to go from being a part of the most powerful country on earth militarily and economically to striking out on your own in a new clusterfuck of a nation crippled by wrongheaded conservative ideology that might be #100 on that same list of economic power?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Every federal office, installation, etc., in your state disappears. Every resident of your state holding a federal job is suddenly unemployed.

Sounds like a good start.

Yeah, was that supposed to be a bad thing?

Go count the number of Texans living off federal jobs and then get back to me. Imagine every one of them out of work.

 

[eflatminor]

If we secede we forefit the right to send taxes to DC. Oh the horror.

If your state secedes, your Medicare and Social Security stop. Period.

Now pretend you're okay with that.

No Medicare? Oh gosh, that would be horrible! I recall all the dead bodies in the streets before 1965. Can't go back...only gubmint can save us!!!

 

[JWBooth]

Poor carby...Look what happened to his "clever" thread!

I don't see a single person making an intelligent counterpoint to anything I've pointed out.

Intelligent counterpoint....to what? The drivel that was the op? Why bother with nonsense?

 

[TakeAStepBack]

IMagine a LOLberal with economic understanding. That's the real hoot here.

 

[Oddball]

Sounds like a good start.

Yeah, was that supposed to be a bad thing?

Go count the number of Texans living off federal jobs and then get back to me. Imagine every one of them out of work.

What I imagine is all the freed up money that was previously wasted on paper shuffling bureaucrats, being made available to people who want to produce things other people want to buy and employ people.

Where the fuck do you think the money comes from to pay bureaucrats, Lucky the goddamn Leprechaun?

 

[eflatminor]

What planet do you live on where you think it would be better to go from being a part of the most powerful country on earth militarily and economically to striking out on your own ...

Planet freedom.

 

[JWBooth]

Sounds like a good start.

Yeah, was that supposed to be a bad thing?

Go count the number of Texans living off federal jobs and then get back to me. Imagine every one of them out of work.

The number of retail seasonal workers that will go back to school in January will outnumber them, and will have made a greater positive economic impact by their employment.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Yeah, was that supposed to be a bad thing?

Go count the number of Texans living off federal jobs and then get back to me. Imagine every one of them out of work.

What I imagine is all the freed up money that was previously wasted on paper shuffling bureaucrats, being made available to people who want to produce things other people want to buy and employ people.

Where the fuck do you think the money comes from to pay bureaucrats, Lucky the goddamn Leprechaun?

They have FRN trees in the WH back yard that Bernanke harvests every month.

Besides that, FUCK the FRN. A seceded states could start its own currency.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Poor carby...Look what happened to his "clever" thread!

I don't see a single person making an intelligent counterpoint to anything I've pointed out.

That's because your premise is so fucked beyond repair, that all anyone with two functioning brain cells to rub together can do is ....

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And yet you can't make a single specific argument as to what's wrong with the premise.

We're talking about an actual secession here, an actual state going into revolt against the US by declaring its independence.

 

[JWBooth]

Go count the number of Texans living off federal jobs and then get back to me. Imagine every one of them out of work.

What I imagine is all the freed up money that was previously wasted on paper shuffling bureaucrats, being made available to people who want to produce things other people want to buy and employ people.

Where the fuck do you think the money comes from to pay bureaucrats, Lucky the goddamn Leprechaun?

They have FRN trees in the WH back yard that Bernanke harvests every month.

Besides that, FUCK the FRN. A seceded states could start its own currency.

Monopoly money. All it needs is for people to believe it is money, just like FRNs.

 

[occupied]

What planet do you live on where you think it would be better to go from being a part of the most powerful country on earth militarily and economically to striking out on your own ...

Planet freedom.

You trying to piss me off by clipping my quotes? What a child you are, maybe you can call me a doodyhead next.

 

[Oddball]

I don't see a single person making an intelligent counterpoint to anything I've pointed out.

That's because your premise is so fucked beyond repair, that all anyone with two functioning brain cells to rub together can do is ....

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And yet you can't make a single specific argument as to what's wrong with the premise.

We're talking about an actual secession here, an actual state going into revolt against the US by declaring its independence.[/QUOTE]
The premise is that you think bureaucracy is a net benefit to the economy in general, when it is in fact a net drag on it.

It's a core belief you have and won't be talked out of, no matter how much evidence that you're beat over the head with...So all that's left is just to point an laugh at your rank ignorance and arrogant prattlings of self-importance.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

What planet do you live on where you think it would be better to go from being a part of the most powerful country on earth militarily and economically to striking out on your own ...

Planet freedom.

You trying to piss me off by clipping my quotes? What a child you are, maybe you can call me a doodyhead next.

Shit for brains would be more accurate.

 

[Claudette]

I don't whether to laugh uproariously or be scared to death that you actually believe all that crap.

I agree. I'm sitting here LMAO at his posts. My God. He thinks no one could survive without the Govt??
Holy Fuck. What planet does he live on??

LOL

What's funny is that you think you could.

You bet your ass I could survive without the Govt. So could you. LOL

 

[NYcarbineer]

Yeah, was that supposed to be a bad thing?

Go count the number of Texans living off federal jobs and then get back to me. Imagine every one of them out of work.

What I imagine is all the freed up money that was previously wasted on paper shuffling bureaucrats, being made available to people who want to produce things other people want to buy and employ people.

Where the fuck do you think the money comes from to pay bureaucrats, Lucky the goddamn Leprechaun?

All the military bases and everything else federal in, for example, Texas, when it secedes, are shut down. All of the assets moved out. All of the employees let go. All members of the military let go. All those people out of work. None of them get federal UE money. No one gets an SS check. State pension funds with money outside Texas are frozen and/or confiscated by the US government. Federal pensions stop.

And Texas doesn't feel an iota of economic impact, according to you?

lolol

 

[Claudette]

I don't whether to laugh uproariously or be scared to death that you actually believe all that crap.

I agree. I'm sitting here LMAO at his posts. My God. He thinks no one could survive without the Govt??

Holy Fuck. What planet does he live on??

What planet do you live on where you think it would be better to go from being a part of the most powerful country on earth militarily and economically to striking out on your own in a new clusterfuck of a nation crippled by wrongheaded conservative ideology that might be #100 on that same list of economic power?

I think I could survive quite well without Govt. So could you. LOL

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Every nickel everyone in that state has paid in, and might expect to benefit from some day,

would be gone.

Did you factor that into your calculations?

And? guess what you'll get no more of my money.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Start an interest free currency, anchor it to gold and begin a restructuring process. Why are LOLberals so limited in their ability to think outside of a federal leviathon? Is it indoctrination in the public schools, universities or media? Maybe all three. Yep, def. all three.