Zone1 If we worship One God...

[Meriweather]

...why bash the worship of others by attacking their faith, religious denomination, or the ways they worship?

 

[TNHarley]

Tis true. Its all a bit ridiculous in many ways.

ways they worship

Especially this. Like the ritual of pretending to eat a 2k year old dead mans flesh and drink his blood.

 

[Votto]

...why bash the worship of others by attacking their faith, religious denomination, or the ways they worship?

I think it only natural for human beings to try and get others to think the way they do.

Why?

On average, if you go along with the herd there is safety. There is strength in numbers, and if everyone is doing it, odds are there is a good reason unless they are all more stupid than yourself.

The downside is when your leader of the group jumps off a cliff as the herd jumps with him.

But yes, we are all sheeple, so we innately want as big of a herd as we can get for our own peace of mind and protection.

That is what makes being a Christian so disconcerting. Odds are, if you with the majority, you are on the wrong side of things.

 

[Meriweather]

Especially this. Like the ritual of pretending to eat a 2k year old dead mans flesh and drink his blood.

I understand you and others may see it this way. Many others have an entirely different understanding which makes it true worship of God and what He has called some to do.

How is this form of worship hurting any other forms of worship?

 

[TNHarley]

I understand you and others may see it this way

Thats exactly what it is.
"Take and eat, this is my body"

How is this form of worship hurting any other forms of worship?

It isnt. Its just ridiculous. Like I said.

 

[Meriweather]

I think it only natural for human beings to try and get others to think the way they do.

Why?

On average, if you go along with the herd there is safety. There is strength in numbers, and if everyone is doing it, odds are there is a good reason unless they are all more stupid than yourself.

The downside is when your leader of the group jumps off a cliff as the herd jumps with him.

But yes, we are all sheeple, so we innately want as big of a herd as we can get for our own peace of mind and protection.

That is what makes being a Christian so disconcerting. Odds are, if you with the majority, you are on the wrong side of things.

Excellent post, excellent insight. Reminds me of that age old stoic philosophy advising not to worry about joining in with the majority--worry about being absorbed into the ranks of the insane.

 

[Meriweather]

It isnt. Its just ridiculous. Like I said.

Do you have similar views of manna and the Bread of the Presence?

 

[TNHarley]

Do you have similar views of manna and the Bread of the Presence?

Those in no way compare to the the communion ritual.

 

[Meriweather]

Those in no way compare to the the communion ritual.

What they all have in common is the presence of God.

 

[TNHarley]

What they all have in common is the presence of God.

Look, the ritual is silly af. Its pretend cannibalism. Its weird.
If you cant accept that, fine.

 

[Meriweather]

Look, the ritual is silly af. Its pretend cannibalism. Its weird.
If you cant accept that, fine.

This is about what you cannot accept. Manna. Bread of the Presence. Eucharist. All throughout time God has used Bread to bring His presence as a gift and a blessing to mankind: You say you don't see that presence, and that's fine. God's presence isn't it all that is invisible to the human eye. For example, the human eye cannot see infrared or ultraviolet light. Bet you are certain they exist. Many of us are equally certain of God's presence in our midst.

 

[TNHarley]

This is about what you cannot accept. Manna. Bread of the Presence. Eucharist. All throughout time God has used Bread to bring His presence as a gift and a blessing to mankind: You say you don't see that presence, and that's fine. God's presence isn't it all that is invisible to the human eye. For example, the human eye cannot see infrared or ultraviolet light. Bet you are certain they exist. Many of us are equally certain of God's presence in our midst.

No, its about that ridiculous ritual of you people pretending to eat a dead mans flesh.

 

[Meriweather]

No, its about that ridiculous ritual of you people pretending to eat a dead mans flesh.

The body of Christ is living. He said, "This is my body" when he was living and after he resurrected from the dead. We are in the living presence of Christ, body, blood, and divinity. Infrared light, Ultraviolet light, Christ. All unseen and all present.

 

[TNHarley]

The body of Christ is living. He said, "This is my body" when he was living and after he resurrected from the dead. We are in the living presence of Christ, body, blood, and divinity. Infrared light, Ultraviolet light, Christ. All unseen and all present.

Fine. You pretend to eat a live mans flesh and drink his blood.
That works for me too

 

[luiza]

...why bash the worship of others by attacking their faith, religious denomination, or the ways they worship?

There is the key word .
But unfortunately intelligent people find it hard not to voice their savvy when they see so many so called religions founded on mistranslations , lies , deceit and gullibility .Let alone outright nonsense.
The sooner the "Space Aliens" announce their presence, the sooner we get rid of most of these quaint and out dated views of the Universe and learn our likely purpose , if any , and possible responsibilities we may , or may not , have , imho

Let us hope that they ( Elohim ? , plural) have some sympathetic view of us and do not see us yet again as slave labour or tasty tit bits .

 

[Meriweather]

Fine. You pretend to eat a live mans flesh and drink his blood.

Reality. Jesus explains how this reality works. Those who have faith in Christ accept his word. The life it brings is good.

 

[Meriweather]

There is the key word .
But unfortunately intelligent people find it hard not to voice their savvy when they see so many so called religions founded on mistranslations , lies , deceit and gullibility .Let alone outright nonsense.

Is the worship of God true? That's may be the only important question, that which is in a person's heart when they are before God. Do arguments about indulgences, when to Baptize, whether Elisha went to heaven in a chariot of any importance when we worship God?

 

[TNHarley]

Reality. Jesus explains how this reality works. Those who have faith in Christ accept his word. The life it brings is good.

Enjoy, Ms. Lector.

 

[Meriweather]

Enjoy, Ms. Lector.

Shrug. You are the one chortling, dismissing what you see as cannibalism. Cannibalism is the consumption of dead flesh. The host is no longer living. Changing something that is into something it is not changes everything

Consider: Think of someone entering into a discussion of a loved one. They begin with changing a loved one into something else, say a rat. Then they feel totally justified in continuing with, "And rats should be treated...."

Dehumanizing people may be effective, but equally, it is wrong because when one sinks into dehumanization, they are confessing they already lost the case and have moved on to something else.

 

[TNHarley]

Shrug. You are the one chortling, dismissing what you see as cannibalism. Cannibalism is the consumption of dead flesh. The host is no longer living. Changing something that is into something it is not changes everything

Consider: Think of someone entering into a discussion of a loved one. They begin with changing a loved one into something else, say a rat. Then they feel totally justified in continuing with, "And rats should be treated...."

Dehumanizing people may be effective, but equally, it is wrong because when one sinks into dehumanization, they are confessing they already lost the case and have moved on to something else.

Its a ridiculous and very weird ritual. It deserves to be made fun of.
Just like how the Brahmins crawl on top of leftovers. Or how the Jews move chickens around their head and think they are transferring their sins to it.