If We Took the Constitution Seriously, Obama Would Be Impeached

[jillian]

Unlike you, we were there condeming his illegal actions. Sad that you worship Nazi-like at the feet of your liberal fuher's, like Obama.

By the way swallow, Ronald Reagan has been out of the White House for 25 years now, and he's dead. How about we worry about what the current President is doing, instead of attempting to defend criminal actions that you know are wrong by pointing at a dead man for his action 33 years ago?

you're a liar.

there was not a single rightwingnut on this board who objected to shrub's signing statements.

now run along.

But .. but... that was 4 years ago!!!

true... we all know that the effects of a GOP presidency immediately dissipate never to be mentioned again...

but the whining about democrats, no matter how successful their presidencies... goes on and on and on and on and on...... and so on and so forth and shooby dooby dooby.

 

[Stephanie]

Ah..so signing statements are illegal now?

And where were you guys when Reagan violated legislation handed down from Congress by selling arms to Iran and the Contras?

Unlike you, we were there condeming his illegal actions. Sad that you worship Nazi-like at the feet of your liberal fuher's, like Obama.

By the way swallow, Ronald Reagan has been out of the White House for 25 years now, and he's dead. How about we worry about what the current President is doing, instead of attempting to defend criminal actions that you know are wrong by pointing at a dead man for his action 33 years ago?

you're a liar.

there was not a single rightwingnut on this board who objected to shrub's signing statements.

now run along.

you weren't here for all of the Bush administation, so how would you know?

 

[P@triot]

Ah..so signing statements are illegal now?

And where were you guys when Reagan violated legislation handed down from Congress by selling arms to Iran and the Contras?

Unlike you, we were there condeming his illegal actions. Sad that you worship Nazi-like at the feet of your liberal fuher's, like Obama.

By the way swallow, Ronald Reagan has been out of the White House for 25 years now, and he's dead. How about we worry about what the current President is doing, instead of attempting to defend criminal actions that you know are wrong by pointing at a dead man for his action 33 years ago?

you're a liar.

there was not a single rightwingnut on this board who objected to shrub's signing statements.

now run along.

Aw, little Jillian having problems defending the indefensible? Ronald Reagan is dead - don't try to change the subject. You're God, the radical Marxist Barack Hussein, just violated the law for like the 12th time since he took office.

 

[Moonglow]

Ah..so signing statements are illegal now?

And where were you guys when Reagan violated legislation handed down from Congress by selling arms to Iran and the Contras?

Unlike you, we were there condeming his illegal actions. Sad that you worship Nazi-like at the feet of your liberal fuher's, like Obama.

By the way swallow, Ronald Reagan has been out of the White House for 25 years now, and he's dead. How about we worry about what the current President is doing, instead of attempting to defend criminal actions that you know are wrong by pointing at a dead man for his action 33 years ago?

So in 25 years it will be OK that Obama made signing statements?

The immigration deal that Obama just enacted lasts two years.

 

[Moonglow]

Unlike you, we were there condeming his illegal actions. Sad that you worship Nazi-like at the feet of your liberal fuher's, like Obama.

By the way swallow, Ronald Reagan has been out of the White House for 25 years now, and he's dead. How about we worry about what the current President is doing, instead of attempting to defend criminal actions that you know are wrong by pointing at a dead man for his action 33 years ago?

you're a liar.

there was not a single rightwingnut on this board who objected to shrub's signing statements.

now run along.

Aw, little Jillian having problems defending the indefensible? Ronald Reagan is dead - don't try to change the subject. You're God, the radical Marxist Barack Hussein, just violated the law for like the 12th time since he took office.

what law did he just break?

 

[Stephanie]

Unlike you, we were there condeming his illegal actions. Sad that you worship Nazi-like at the feet of your liberal fuher's, like Obama.

By the way swallow, Ronald Reagan has been out of the White House for 25 years now, and he's dead. How about we worry about what the current President is doing, instead of attempting to defend criminal actions that you know are wrong by pointing at a dead man for his action 33 years ago?

you're a liar.

there was not a single rightwingnut on this board who objected to shrub's signing statements.

now run along.

Aw, little Jillian having problems defending the indefensible? Ronald Reagan is dead - don't try to change the subject. You're God, the radical Marxist Barack Hussein, just violated the law for like the 12th time since he took office.

Schrub is her pet name for president Bush, you would of been impressed with all the "DISrespectful" names they had for him on this board..

Chimp was one, ChimpyMcCokespoon was another and so on..

 

[JakeStarkey]

I have maintained that Obama views himself as an elected King.
With this latest XO, he has essentially established dictatorial powers for himself.
Of course, this latest XO will be short lived. Should Obama lose in November, I would imagine by the end of Jan 2013, this Order will be rescinded.
Perhaps legislation from Congress can alleviate some of the issues these kids have. However, the law MUST be clear that in order for these kids to establish Registered Alien Status, they MUST go through the same process as ALL other immigrants.

Baloney to the kingship. What utter nonsense.

No, Romney will never overturn the order, and will expand it into a fullblown immigration reform as he shuts the borders with soldiers brought home as the defense budget is cut and entitlement programs reformed.

He is not a wing nut far righty and will not allow the lefties any more stupidity.

I look forward to MR's inauguration.

 

[P@triot]

you're a liar.

there was not a single rightwingnut on this board who objected to shrub's signing statements.

now run along.

But .. but... that was 4 years ago!!!

true... we all know that the effects of a GOP presidency immediately dissipate never to be mentioned again...

but the whining about democrats, no matter how successful their presidencies... goes on and on and on and on and on...... and so on and so forth and shooby dooby dooby.

Except that, we've never seen a successful liberal president, so nobody knows what kind of whining would go on. Jimmy Carter created the second worst economy in US history while surrendering the US embassy in Iran and showing the world he was a coward. Bill Clinton collapsed our present economy with his "Community Re-investment Act" (once again, government unconstitutionally meddling in the private sector) and allowed Al Qaeda to operate with impunity, culminating in 9/11. And finally, we have Barack Hussein, the biggest liberal failure of them all. Longest period of 8+% unemployment sans the Great Depresssion in US history, and added more to the debt in 3.5 years than all US president in history combined during that same time frame.

 

[JakeStarkey]

What blowjob are you talking about? Clinton was not put on trial for a blow job. He did not lose his license to practice law because of a blow job, and he was not impeached because of a blow job.

So says Chief Pass Wind.

Your reasoning is simply foul, really foul.

 

[Stephanie]

I have maintained that Obama views himself as an elected King.
With this latest XO, he has essentially established dictatorial powers for himself.
Of course, this latest XO will be short lived. Should Obama lose in November, I would imagine by the end of Jan 2013, this Order will be rescinded.
Perhaps legislation from Congress can alleviate some of the issues these kids have. However, the law MUST be clear that in order for these kids to establish Registered Alien Status, they MUST go through the same process as ALL other immigrants.

Baloney to the kingship. What utter nonsense.

No, Romney will never overturn the order, and will expand it into a fullblown immigration reform as he shuts the borders with soldiers brought home as the defense budget is cut and entitlement programs reformed.

He is not a wing nut far righty and will not allow the lefties any more stupidity.

I look forward to MR's inauguration.

would you PLEASE take that broken record, AND BREAK IT

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

But .. but... that was 4 years ago!!!

true... we all know that the effects of a GOP presidency immediately dissipate never to be mentioned again...

but the whining about democrats, no matter how successful their presidencies... goes on and on and on and on and on...... and so on and so forth and shooby dooby dooby.

Except that, we've never seen a successful liberal president, so nobody knows what kind of whining would go on. Jimmy Carter created the second worst economy in US history while surrendering the US embassy in Iran and showing the world he was a coward. Bill Clinton collapsed our present economy with his "Community Re-investment Act" (once again, governemnt unconstitutionally meddling in the private sector) and allowed Al Qaeda to operate with impunity, culminating in 9/11. And finally, we have Barack Hussein, the biggest liberal failure of them all. Longest period of 8%+ unemployment sans the Great Depresssion in US history, and added more to the debt in 3.5 years than all US president in history combined during that same time frame.

The 70's bad economy began in 1973-4 with a recession and a stock market crash under President Ford, moron.

The Community Reinvestment Act was passed in 1977 ignoramous.


I love how righty always blames Democratic Presidents for whichever recession was nearest to their term in office - even if it began BEFORE they took office .

 

[jillian]

true... we all know that the effects of a GOP presidency immediately dissipate never to be mentioned again...

but the whining about democrats, no matter how successful their presidencies... goes on and on and on and on and on...... and so on and so forth and shooby dooby dooby.

Except that, we've never seen a successful liberal president, so nobody knows what kind of whining would go on. Jimmy Carter created the second worst economy in US history while surrendering the US embassy in Iran and showing the world he was a coward. Bill Clinton collapsed our present economy with his "Community Re-investment Act" (once again, governemnt unconstitutionally meddling in the private sector) and allowed Al Qaeda to operate with impunity, culminating in 9/11. And finally, we have Barack Hussein, the biggest liberal failure of them all. Longest period of 8%+ unemployment sans the Great Depresssion in US history, and added more to the debt in 3.5 years than all US president in history combined during that same time frame.

The 70's bad economy began in 1973-4 with a recession and a stock market crash under President Ford, moron.

The Community Reinvestment Act was passed in 1977 ignoramous.


I love how righty always blames Democratic Presidents for whichever recession was nearest to their term in office - even if it began BEFORE they took office .

not to mention that CRA had very little to do with the crash...

well, except to racists who have trouble with the fact that it outlawed redlining...

 

[JakeStarkey]

I have maintained that Obama views himself as an elected King.
With this latest XO, he has essentially established dictatorial powers for himself.
Of course, this latest XO will be short lived. Should Obama lose in November, I would imagine by the end of Jan 2013, this Order will be rescinded.
Perhaps legislation from Congress can alleviate some of the issues these kids have. However, the law MUST be clear that in order for these kids to establish Registered Alien Status, they MUST go through the same process as ALL other immigrants.

Baloney to the kingship. What utter nonsense.

No, Romney will never overturn the order, and will expand it into a fullblown immigration reform as he shuts the borders with soldiers brought home as the defense budget is cut and entitlement programs reformed.

He is not a wing nut far righty and will not allow the lefties any more stupidity.

I look forward to MR's inauguration.

would you PLEASE take that broken record, AND BREAK IT

Steph, it is what it is, and you guys have to come back to reality. My wing has the party presidential nomination back under control, finally, and you all just need to let the adults run it.

 

[Darkwind]

What is the matter Republicans?

What are you waiting for? If you can impeach over a blow job, you can impeach over this

My God, you are so uninformed about everything you comment on.

Bill Clinton was not impeached over a "blowjob". Bill Clinton was impeached because he committed perjury before a grand jury. You know, a major crime called perjury?

For the love of God, would you please either go away so adults can hold discussions, or keep your mouth shut about subjects you are uninformed about?

And the Senate acquitted him on all counts.

So ha ha ha!

If you have been impeached, you cannot be acquitted too.

Is English your second language?

The price of his guilt was his loss of law license.

 

[JakeStarkey]

My God, you are so uninformed about everything you comment on.

Bill Clinton was not impeached over a "blowjob". Bill Clinton was impeached because he committed perjury before a grand jury. You know, a major crime called perjury?

For the love of God, would you please either go away so adults can hold discussions, or keep your mouth shut about subjects you are uninformed about?

And the Senate acquitted him on all counts.

So ha ha ha!

If you have been impeached, you cannot be acquitted too.

Is English your second language?

The price of his guilt was his loss of law license.

There was no guilt because there was no conviction. The Congressional indictment (impeachment) was found inadequate on all charges, as it should have been.

A number of congress critters lost their seats in the fall election, as they should have.

Gingrich lost the Speakership as he should have.

 

[Polk]

The President can be impeached only for High Crimes and Misdemeanors.

Exceeding his authority is neither. In fact, the Founders expected politicians to attempt to exceed their authority, that's why there are checks in place to limit their power. Congress can overturn this if they had the moral rectitude and courage to do so.

No, they couldn't, because this is entirely inside his authority. You can dislike the decision, just as I dislike how the Civil Rights Division at DOJ basically shuts down every time a Republican is in the White House, but that doesn't mean it's illegal.

Don't forget how regulatory agencies seem to somehow stop doing their jobs under Republican admins, too. The guy in the Oval Office never said outright he wouldn't let them do their jobs, but it's pretty obvious he and the people he's appointed to run them haven't been interested in letting them.

Exactly. That's not the best public policy, but there is nothing illegal about it.

 

[Polk]

Unlike you, we were there condeming his illegal actions. Sad that you worship Nazi-like at the feet of your liberal fuher's, like Obama.

By the way swallow, Ronald Reagan has been out of the White House for 25 years now, and he's dead. How about we worry about what the current President is doing, instead of attempting to defend criminal actions that you know are wrong by pointing at a dead man for his action 33 years ago?

you're a liar.

there was not a single rightwingnut on this board who objected to shrub's signing statements.

now run along.

But .. but... that was 4 years ago!!!

It's truly priceless when people like John Yoo can take to the pages of a national paper and wax philosophic about the "power grab". You know, the same John Yoo who said the President has an unquestioned right under the Constitution to order torture in violation of both domestic statutes and international treaty obligations.

 

[jillian]

My God, you are so uninformed about everything you comment on.

Bill Clinton was not impeached over a "blowjob". Bill Clinton was impeached because he committed perjury before a grand jury. You know, a major crime called perjury?

For the love of God, would you please either go away so adults can hold discussions, or keep your mouth shut about subjects you are uninformed about?

And the Senate acquitted him on all counts.

So ha ha ha!

If you have been impeached, you cannot be acquitted too.

Is English your second language?

The price of his guilt was his loss of law license.

perhaps it would be helpful if you actually understood what impeachment is.

articles of impeachment are the same as criminal charges... think of them as an indictment.

that indictment is brought in the house of representatives for a president.

and the trier of fact is the senate.. which acts as jury.

and they most certainly did acquit president clinton of the charges brought by the rightwingnut hacks for political purpose after spending 70 million dollars of our tax money on a witch hunt.

the issue with his law license had zero to do with the impeachment.

get your facts straight.

 

[Polk]

And the Senate acquitted him on all counts.

So ha ha ha!

If you have been impeached, you cannot be acquitted too.

Is English your second language?

The price of his guilt was his loss of law license.

perhaps it would be helpful if you actually understood what impeachment is.

articles of impeachment are the same as criminal charges... think of them as an indictment.

that indictment is brought in the house of representatives for a president.

and the trier of fact is the senate.. which acts as jury.

and they most certainly did acquit president clinton of the charges brought by the rightwingnut hacks for political purpose after spending 70 million dollars of our tax money on a witch hunt.

the issue with his law license had zero to do with the impeachment.

get your facts straight.

Good summary, except don't think of them as criminal charges. They aren't. Impeachment is a political sanction.

 

[jillian]

If you have been impeached, you cannot be acquitted too.

Is English your second language?

The price of his guilt was his loss of law license.

perhaps it would be helpful if you actually understood what impeachment is.

articles of impeachment are the same as criminal charges... think of them as an indictment.

that indictment is brought in the house of representatives for a president.

and the trier of fact is the senate.. which acts as jury.

and they most certainly did acquit president clinton of the charges brought by the rightwingnut hacks for political purpose after spending 70 million dollars of our tax money on a witch hunt.

the issue with his law license had zero to do with the impeachment.

get your facts straight.

Good summary, except don't think of them as criminal charges. They aren't. Impeachment is a political sanction.

fair enough. i was trying to give him an analogy he could follow. and, to impeach a president, he does have to be accused of "high crimes and misdemenors", regardless of it being a criminal or political sanction.