If Trump Really Wants To Be POTUS

[OnePercenter]

Answer my question and you will see.

It's incredible how dumb you are btw. I honestly didn't think you were this level of ignorant.

You haven't asked a question, I have. I'll do it again;

How would reducing costs for business and increase spending in the economy while controlling cost would cause a depression.

 

[Avorysuds]

Answer my question and you will see.

It's incredible how dumb you are btw. I honestly didn't think you were this level of ignorant.

You haven't asked a question, I have. I'll do it again;

How would reducing costs for business and increase spending in the economy while controlling cost would cause a depression.

SHOW US THE FUCKING NUMBERS YOU USELESS IGNORANT ****... Seriously.

Today = 10$ an hour

The Day After Tomorrow = You are made King of America and you stop all price increases, you also bump min wage to 23$ an hour.

Show us with all your tax bullshit jargon how a company will "save" while paying 130% more (actual) dollars per employee.

 

[OnePercenter]

The fact that you want to fix costs proves your plan is Unicorn farts. The most incredible part is that there are more reasons for why prices inflate than just "we want to charge more."

Less supply of materials to make products SHOULD raise costs so people use less of that material... Under your idiotic plan you would either oversell supply until there is nothing left or have to close shop... Distorting markets on levels so mother fucking retarded only the FedR could run an economy as badly.

Your "plan" is so bad finding a starting point seems impossible.

How would selling more cause a less supply in materials?

Wouldn't overselling supply make additional jobs to meet supply?

FYI: Markets have been distorted for the last 45 years, and not to benefit workers.

 

[Avorysuds]

The fact that you want to fix costs proves your plan is Unicorn farts. The most incredible part is that there are more reasons for why prices inflate than just "we want to charge more."

Less supply of materials to make products SHOULD raise costs so people use less of that material... Under your idiotic plan you would either oversell supply until there is nothing left or have to close shop... Distorting markets on levels so mother fucking retarded only the FedR could run an economy as badly.

Your "plan" is so bad finding a starting point seems impossible.

How would selling more cause a less supply in materials?

Wouldn't overselling supply make additional jobs to meet supply?

FYI: Markets have been distorted for the last 45 years, and not to benefit workers.

HO MY GAWD YER ONE DUMB FU-CK.

"How would selling more cause a less supply in materials?"

You know what, I'll step back and just treat you like a child new to a topic, I'll be nice.
Pretend your a farmer and you sell oooooh... Strawberries...

And I'm done, you do the rest.

 

[Avorysuds]

It's amazing to me people like you have the balls to enter a "debate" where you take such a stance of pure, true, unrestrained arrogance yet you spend the entire time proving you have no actually idea wtf you are talking about. Yet you are here believing so completely that you are right.

 

[Redfish]

He should embrace my jobs plan.

-Base Federal tax for corporations at 30% of revenue.

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2015 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-offs/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 500 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2015 price structure.

-Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

My plan would reduce small business costs for employees and taxes to 30%. That's a 15%-30% drop.



My plan would put BILLIONS into the economy daily.



My plan would put the $100 trillion plus currently owned by corporate America back into the economy.



My plan would end all welfare.



My plan would significantly increase social security and pension payments.



My plan would hold prices for 10 years, thus eliminating inflation.

your plan would destroy the economy. Trump's would cause it to take off like never before.

 

[Indeependent]

Answer my question and you will see.

It's incredible how dumb you are btw. I honestly didn't think you were this level of ignorant.

You haven't asked a question, I have. I'll do it again;

How would reducing costs for business and increase spending in the economy while controlling cost would cause a depression.

SHOW US THE FUCKING NUMBERS YOU USELESS IGNORANT ****... Seriously.

Today = 10$ an hour

The Day After Tomorrow = You are made King of America and you stop all price increases, you also bump min wage to 23$ an hour.

Show us with all your tax bullshit jargon how a company will "save" while paying 130% more (actual) dollars per employee.

I don't know about you, but if I knew my expenses wouldn't increase, I wouldn't have to save as much for a rainy day.
I would eat out marginally more than I do so at the moment.
I would fill my 3 gas tank more often.
I would buy more products overall.
How would this not keep the economy going.

Price increases are generally attributed to unions and poor civil management.
The average person who, for years now, has NOT been compensated for outstanding work, would NOT feel the difference.
The upper echelon, who has been abusing their work force for some 7 years now, would know what's it's like to not be rewarded.

 

[Avorysuds]

Answer my question and you will see.

It's incredible how dumb you are btw. I honestly didn't think you were this level of ignorant.

You haven't asked a question, I have. I'll do it again;

How would reducing costs for business and increase spending in the economy while controlling cost would cause a depression.

SHOW US THE FUCKING NUMBERS YOU USELESS IGNORANT ****... Seriously.

Today = 10$ an hour

The Day After Tomorrow = You are made King of America and you stop all price increases, you also bump min wage to 23$ an hour.

Show us with all your tax bullshit jargon how a company will "save" while paying 130% more (actual) dollars per employee.

I don't know about you, but if I knew my expenses wouldn't increase, I wouldn't have to save as much for a rainy day.
I would eat out marginally more than I do so at the moment.
I would fill my 3 gas tank more often.
I would buy more products overall.
How would this not keep the economy going.

Price increases are generally attributed to unions and poor civil management.
The average person who, for years now, has NOT been compensated for outstanding work, would NOT feel the difference.
The upper echelon, who has been abusing their work force for some 7 years now, would know what's it's like to not be rewarded.

Soooooooo...

 

[Indeependent]

Answer my question and you will see.

It's incredible how dumb you are btw. I honestly didn't think you were this level of ignorant.

You haven't asked a question, I have. I'll do it again;

How would reducing costs for business and increase spending in the economy while controlling cost would cause a depression.

SHOW US THE FUCKING NUMBERS YOU USELESS IGNORANT ****... Seriously.

Today = 10$ an hour

The Day After Tomorrow = You are made King of America and you stop all price increases, you also bump min wage to 23$ an hour.

Show us with all your tax bullshit jargon how a company will "save" while paying 130% more (actual) dollars per employee.

I don't know about you, but if I knew my expenses wouldn't increase, I wouldn't have to save as much for a rainy day.
I would eat out marginally more than I do so at the moment.
I would fill my 3 gas tank more often.
I would buy more products overall.
How would this not keep the economy going.

Price increases are generally attributed to unions and poor civil management.
The average person who, for years now, has NOT been compensated for outstanding work, would NOT feel the difference.
The upper echelon, who has been abusing their work force for some 7 years now, would know what's it's like to not be rewarded.

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Soooooooo...

Why are you comparing ONE product when the reality is the US ships almost EVERYTHING off shore to two nations that artificially depress wages.

 

[Rozman]

If he really wants to be President he needs to get the lefties to vote for him....So
Promise he will give all his money away because he's white and he stole all he has....
Promise to take away all the money white people have....
Raise minimum wage to $30.00 an hour....
Free college for all.....
Promise free housing for all....
Make sure our borders are not secure....
Decimate the military.....

And that's just for starters...
Just to get the ball rolling....

 

[Indeependent]

If he really wants to be President he needs to get the lefties to vote for him....So
Promise he will give all his money away because he's white and he stole all he has....
Promise to take away all the money white people have....
Raise minimum wage to $30.00 an hour....
Free college for all.....
Promise free housing for all....
Make sure our borders are not secure....
Decimate the military.....

And that's just for starters...
Just to get the ball rolling....

There are NOT as many Lefties as you think there are.
There are NOT as many Righties as you think there are.
The majority of Americans are Independents and that's why "Fair Trade" Trump is filling up stadiums and the Lame Stream Media is not televising such.

 

[Slyhunter]

Disallow overseas investment? Are you nuts?

 

[Avorysuds]

Answer my question and you will see.

It's incredible how dumb you are btw. I honestly didn't think you were this level of ignorant.

You haven't asked a question, I have. I'll do it again;

How would reducing costs for business and increase spending in the economy while controlling cost would cause a depression.

SHOW US THE FUCKING NUMBERS YOU USELESS IGNORANT ****... Seriously.

Today = 10$ an hour

The Day After Tomorrow = You are made King of America and you stop all price increases, you also bump min wage to 23$ an hour.

Show us with all your tax bullshit jargon how a company will "save" while paying 130% more (actual) dollars per employee.

I don't know about you, but if I knew my expenses wouldn't increase, I wouldn't have to save as much for a rainy day.
I would eat out marginally more than I do so at the moment.
I would fill my 3 gas tank more often.
I would buy more products overall.
How would this not keep the economy going.

Price increases are generally attributed to unions and poor civil management.
The average person who, for years now, has NOT been compensated for outstanding work, would NOT feel the difference.
The upper echelon, who has been abusing their work force for some 7 years now, would know what's it's like to not be rewarded.

Look man, prices go up for many reasons, one is because of lack of available materials.

If I make something, and I order a "unit" of something from somewhere to make this product...

But this unit I need finds itself in short supply suddenly due to (the time of year, natural disaster, more demand for this part, whatever)

Naturally the cost of that part I need goes what? That's right, the price of me buying this part goes up.

Now, because the price goes up I naturally look around for other options that achieve the same goal.

Other options that once were more costly are now equal or *shocking breath* cheaper than the old unit I used to buy.

Now I buy my new and different unit (that works for my needs) from someone else!

Others do the same thing!

Over time the old part is available again for a cheaper price because of many variables!

Would you like me to go over what these variables could be?


Knowing that you won't understand any of this makes me sad... I want to keep going because the "blowback" to such a stupid mother fucking idea like fixing prices can just go on and on and on but your a progressive, and progressives are a lot like the nutty religious right. You don't care about facts based on realities of thousands of years of economies, no, you want to believe, fee, want the economy to be a certain way... You have faith in your bullcrap made up numbers economy.

I mean 23.50$ an hour??? Based on WHAT?

 

[Avorysuds]

If he really wants to be President he needs to get the lefties to vote for him....So
Promise he will give all his money away because he's white and he stole all he has....
Promise to take away all the money white people have....
Raise minimum wage to $30.00 an hour....
Free college for all.....
Promise free housing for all....
Make sure our borders are not secure....
Decimate the military.....

And that's just for starters...
Just to get the ball rolling....

Hahaha, you know, there are people on these boards that at first would be like "FUCK YEAH!!!" Not knowing you're making fun of them. The OP might be one of those people.

 

[Avorysuds]

Hey dumbpercenter, I know how to fix the economy.

Raise min wage to 50$ an hour but also limit how much someone can make to 50.01$. If you don't work you are sent to jail and forced into work camps at 50$ an hour. Fix all prices (I'll make up numbers as I go.)

That's really it... Work or go to jail and be forced to work on projects I feel will best help the economy.

Free housing, free college, free healthcare, free back rubs because they are all rights... No needs for and of the basic rights anymore because I control them for people (better than they would do for themselves too!).

And fuck 10 years, I'm king now.

We burn those in jail that refuse to work... slowly, alive and televised as a deterrent for others to chose a life of denying to be productive in my economy.

 

[the_human_being]

Trump's plan trumps yours already. Sorry.

In what way?

For one thing he reduces the corporate tax to zero.

 

[the_human_being]

What middle class? They don't exist. Obama and the Dems have wiped out the middle class.

If you believe that, you are ignorant. The Republican manifesto has made that so.

Do you ever bother to actually research anything at all?

 

[the_human_being]

Price and wage controls are probably the worst idea ever in the history of man.

You are correct if done the Republican way. Higher prices, less wages.

My plan increases profit for business and tax revenue for locals and States. It also returns tax monies back to the people.

Why don't you run against the Republicans then? The Democrats certainly are not fielding any candidates. You'd be a shoo in.

 

[Indeependent]

Answer my question and you will see.

It's incredible how dumb you are btw. I honestly didn't think you were this level of ignorant.

You haven't asked a question, I have. I'll do it again;

How would reducing costs for business and increase spending in the economy while controlling cost would cause a depression.

SHOW US THE FUCKING NUMBERS YOU USELESS IGNORANT ****... Seriously.

Today = 10$ an hour

The Day After Tomorrow = You are made King of America and you stop all price increases, you also bump min wage to 23$ an hour.

Show us with all your tax bullshit jargon how a company will "save" while paying 130% more (actual) dollars per employee.

I don't know about you, but if I knew my expenses wouldn't increase, I wouldn't have to save as much for a rainy day.
I would eat out marginally more than I do so at the moment.
I would fill my 3 gas tank more often.
I would buy more products overall.
How would this not keep the economy going.

Price increases are generally attributed to unions and poor civil management.
The average person who, for years now, has NOT been compensated for outstanding work, would NOT feel the difference.
The upper echelon, who has been abusing their work force for some 7 years now, would know what's it's like to not be rewarded.

Look man, prices go up for many reasons, one is because of lack of available materials.

If I make something, and I order a "unit" of something from somewhere to make this product...

But this unit I need finds itself in short supply suddenly due to (the time of year, natural disaster, more demand for this part, whatever)

Naturally the cost of that part I need goes what? That's right, the price of me buying this part goes up.

Now, because the price goes up I naturally look around for other options that achieve the same goal.

Other options that once were more costly are now equal or *shocking breath* cheaper than the old unit I used to buy.

Now I buy my new and different unit (that works for my needs) from someone else!

Others do the same thing!

Over time the old part is available again for a cheaper price because of many variables!

Would you like me to go over what these variables could be?


Knowing that you won't understand any of this makes me sad... I want to keep going because the "blowback" to such a stupid mother fucking idea like fixing prices can just go on and on and on but your a progressive, and progressives are a lot like the nutty religious right. You don't care about facts based on realities of thousands of years of economies, no, you want to believe, fee, want the economy to be a certain way... You have faith in your bullcrap made up numbers economy.

I mean 23.50$ an hour??? Based on WHAT?

"lack of available materials"
What went into short supply as a result of the DOT COM Bubble?
Nothing.

What went into short supply as a result of the Housing Bubble?
Aside from American construction jobs.

What went into short supply as a result of the Housing Bubble crash?
Aside from American jobs.

 

[Avorysuds]

Answer my question and you will see.

It's incredible how dumb you are btw. I honestly didn't think you were this level of ignorant.

You haven't asked a question, I have. I'll do it again;

How would reducing costs for business and increase spending in the economy while controlling cost would cause a depression.

SHOW US THE FUCKING NUMBERS YOU USELESS IGNORANT ****... Seriously.

Today = 10$ an hour

The Day After Tomorrow = You are made King of America and you stop all price increases, you also bump min wage to 23$ an hour.

Show us with all your tax bullshit jargon how a company will "save" while paying 130% more (actual) dollars per employee.

I don't know about you, but if I knew my expenses wouldn't increase, I wouldn't have to save as much for a rainy day.
I would eat out marginally more than I do so at the moment.
I would fill my 3 gas tank more often.
I would buy more products overall.
How would this not keep the economy going.

Price increases are generally attributed to unions and poor civil management.
The average person who, for years now, has NOT been compensated for outstanding work, would NOT feel the difference.
The upper echelon, who has been abusing their work force for some 7 years now, would know what's it's like to not be rewarded.

Look man, prices go up for many reasons, one is because of lack of available materials.

If I make something, and I order a "unit" of something from somewhere to make this product...

But this unit I need finds itself in short supply suddenly due to (the time of year, natural disaster, more demand for this part, whatever)

Naturally the cost of that part I need goes what? That's right, the price of me buying this part goes up.

Now, because the price goes up I naturally look around for other options that achieve the same goal.

Other options that once were more costly are now equal or *shocking breath* cheaper than the old unit I used to buy.

Now I buy my new and different unit (that works for my needs) from someone else!

Others do the same thing!

Over time the old part is available again for a cheaper price because of many variables!

Would you like me to go over what these variables could be?


Knowing that you won't understand any of this makes me sad... I want to keep going because the "blowback" to such a stupid mother fucking idea like fixing prices can just go on and on and on but your a progressive, and progressives are a lot like the nutty religious right. You don't care about facts based on realities of thousands of years of economies, no, you want to believe, fee, want the economy to be a certain way... You have faith in your bullcrap made up numbers economy.

I mean 23.50$ an hour??? Based on WHAT?

"lack of available materials"
What went into short supply as a result of the DOT COM Bubble?
Nothing.

What went into short supply as a result of the Housing Bubble?
Aside from American construction jobs.

What went into short supply as a result of the Housing Bubble crash?
Aside from American jobs.

Thanks for proving me right.

In the case you gave on the housing bubble the Government's involvement in pushing easy money to get people into homes distorted markets. Mal-investment was made on a historic level and the bursting of that bubble led to a deep recession.

So your question of what resource was exhausted is "savings."

The same applies to the dot com bubble.

The low interest rates controlled by the Government via the federal reserve signals people to borrow money and take risks as money is cheap.

The more people spend and spend themselves into debt equals less savings.

Rates should have gone up to signal to stop spending and *save* as actual money becomes more scarce, but raising rates cools the economy.

So the "resource" or "material" or "unit" that was over consumed was savings. Because markets were interfered with by Government we got the worst recession on record.

Today we have much the same situation, that is why we will experience another huge crash. You can fix costs, you can raise min wage to stupid levels or give money out in bails outs and stimulus but it's all interfering.