If The US spends over $600 billion on their military...

... and can't get the job done against countries that spend 100 times less that they need to inject another $50 billion, isn't there something fundamentally wrong with the military and the way it's set up and operates?

75% of the US military budget is a make-work program for people in red states. It is welfare for those people. It isn't needed. The US spend $650 billion/yr on defense, China spends $140 billion/yr. Yet cons scream daily how scared they are and how the US military is so bad and depleted.

It is pure welfare for defense contractors in red states. That's it. It is socialism for the wealthy companies in those states.
Ya, that probably explains a lot of it, like getting charged $2 billion for ONE B2 bomber...


Technology cost a lot of money, you ever hear of a B2 getting shot down?

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I also never heard of a B2 bomber that was in a war that was won.


Obama didn't let them do their jobs


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So you agree with me, good for you.
 
... and can't get the job done against countries that spend 100 times less that they need to inject another $50 billion, isn't there something fundamentally wrong with the military and the way it's set up and operates?

75% of the US military budget is a make-work program for people in red states. It is welfare for those people. It isn't needed. The US spend $650 billion/yr on defense, China spends $140 billion/yr. Yet cons scream daily how scared they are and how the US military is so bad and depleted.

It is pure welfare for defense contractors in red states. That's it. It is socialism for the wealthy companies in those states.
Ya, that probably explains a lot of it, like getting charged $2 billion for ONE B2 bomber...


Technology cost a lot of money, you ever hear of a B2 getting shot down?

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I also never heard of a B2 bomber that was in a war that was won.
...Desert Storm?
Not a true win, we let them off the hook right at the end. That's like fighting the Nazis all the back to Berlin and then stopping just before you take out Hitler.
 
What So Proudly We Halliburton

We should have nuked Tora Bora and left. But that would have made it seem like the War on Terror was over and done. The sissyboy HeirGuardsman and Darth Evader needed to drag out the war in order to fund the corporations engaging in ultraliberal "nation-building." Besides, why would you expect a quick victory from a Fortunate Son Chickenhawk-in-Chief whose military experience was "two weeks in the summer, one weekend a month"?

Populists must take away all power from the class that produces draftdodging pro-war sons of pro-war politicians. What is most sickening is hearing a combat veteran make excuses for that ilk. That shows how little respect Unfortunate Sons have for themselves, so we shouldn't respect their slavish opinions.

We do not use nuclear weapons numbskull!
What about Japan? Remember that?
We've had no opportunities since WW2? WTF?
Opportunities to use nukes since Japan? We've had opportunities, just too wussy to use them.
So using them is wrong and not using them is wrong. Got it.
I never said that it was wrong to use them. And you won't find a quote of mine saying that either.
 
So know you are posting false reality?


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We've lost once in each place already during the Bush era, and the Obama era wars aren't going that well.

We didn't lose any war in the bush era, we bombed them till there was nothing left to take out, it was Obama's responsibly to maintain the peace and he didn't.

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Obama inherited a failed campaign. Even you can see that.
And Obama made the same mistakes as bush for the wars, just to a higher degree.


Bush didn't make no mistake.. Obama totally royally messed up by firing our top generals..
GW didn't make any mistakes? You mean aside from going into Iraq in the first place? :lmao:
 
... and can't get the job done against countries that spend 100 times less that they need to inject another $50 billion, isn't there something fundamentally wrong with the military and the way it's set up and operates?

Part of the problem is, our military's rules for engagement are stricter than our own police forces rules of engagement. I'm not advocating for total war, but there definitely needs to be a better balance than what we have. And military isn't an area we should judge based on spending. It should be judged based on wether or not the weapon systems deliver on their promises.

It's funny to see the left always go after military spending...but remain silent in every other area of spending. This past year, the Fed govt spent 1 TRILLION erroneously. That doesn't mean spent it on useless stupid stuff, that means they made payments somewhere they weren't supposed to. 1 TRILLION...that's 1/3 of what the USG takes in annually for taxes! That's 5% of the nations entire GDP! And you want to complain about how much military spending we have? 71% percent of US spending is on entitlements alone, and that number has been increasing sharply in the past few years, before it has been increasing steadily. I think there are more pressing matters we need to address in spending other than military.
Not complaining about the money spent, just wondering why when spending all that cash, we can't beat a poor country on heroin, like Afghanistan, who have no planes, no tanks, no big cannons or bombs...
And yes you are complaining about the money spent. Your complaining about the cost of a B2 bomber, and are still silent on 1 trillion in erroneous payments...at least we got a highly functioning and effective war plane from that 2 billion...from your own metric you should be loosing your shit over 1 trillion pissed away over nothing, 1/3 of the entire tax revenue, wasted to never be seen again. Why are you not?
Ok, we shouldn't be getting hosed $2 billion for one plane. But really, I'm not complaining about the money spent, just why if we spend so much money, can't we beat anyone?
 
75% of the US military budget is a make-work program for people in red states. It is welfare for those people. It isn't needed. The US spend $650 billion/yr on defense, China spends $140 billion/yr. Yet cons scream daily how scared they are and how the US military is so bad and depleted.

It is pure welfare for defense contractors in red states. That's it. It is socialism for the wealthy companies in those states.
Ya, that probably explains a lot of it, like getting charged $2 billion for ONE B2 bomber...


Technology cost a lot of money, you ever hear of a B2 getting shot down?

.
I also never heard of a B2 bomber that was in a war that was won.
...Desert Storm?
Not a true win, we let them off the hook right at the end. That's like fighting the Nazis all the back to Berlin and then stopping just before you take out Hitler.
Operation Desert Storm was the US-led coalition response to Saddam Hussein invading Kuwait. The stated goals of the Operation were: 1 - destroy Iraqi capability to produce and employ weapons of mass destruction.
 
75% of the US military budget is a make-work program for people in red states. It is welfare for those people. It isn't needed. The US spend $650 billion/yr on defense, China spends $140 billion/yr. Yet cons scream daily how scared they are and how the US military is so bad and depleted.

It is pure welfare for defense contractors in red states. That's it. It is socialism for the wealthy companies in those states.
Ya, that probably explains a lot of it, like getting charged $2 billion for ONE B2 bomber...


Technology cost a lot of money, you ever hear of a B2 getting shot down?

.
I also never heard of a B2 bomber that was in a war that was won.
...Desert Storm?
Not a true win, we let them off the hook right at the end. That's like fighting the Nazis all the back to Berlin and then stopping just before you take out Hitler.

We never pulled out of Germany did we? Obama tried to pull out of Iraq and caused a cluster mess.

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... and can't get the job done against countries that spend 100 times less that they need to inject another $50 billion, isn't there something fundamentally wrong with the military and the way it's set up and operates?
You have no idea how much is spent on anything. You're just another media fed parrot.
So you have no clue about the actual topic. Got it.
Military spending is the topic, and you don't have any idea how much is spent. To say you do is a lie.
 
Ya, that probably explains a lot of it, like getting charged $2 billion for ONE B2 bomber...


Technology cost a lot of money, you ever hear of a B2 getting shot down?

.
I also never heard of a B2 bomber that was in a war that was won.
...Desert Storm?
Not a true win, we let them off the hook right at the end. That's like fighting the Nazis all the back to Berlin and then stopping just before you take out Hitler.
Operation Desert Storm was the US-led coalition response to Saddam Hussein invading Kuwait. The stated goals of the Operation were: 1 - destroy Iraqi capability to produce and employ weapons of mass destruction.
Didn't happen though, did it? They felt the need to go back in to get the WMDs.
 
Ya, that probably explains a lot of it, like getting charged $2 billion for ONE B2 bomber...


Technology cost a lot of money, you ever hear of a B2 getting shot down?

.
I also never heard of a B2 bomber that was in a war that was won.
...Desert Storm?
Not a true win, we let them off the hook right at the end. That's like fighting the Nazis all the back to Berlin and then stopping just before you take out Hitler.

We never pulled out of Germany did we? Obama tried to pull out of Iraq and caused a cluster mess.

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Not what we're talking about. Please try again.
 
... and can't get the job done against countries that spend 100 times less that they need to inject another $50 billion, isn't there something fundamentally wrong with the military and the way it's set up and operates?
You have no idea how much is spent on anything. You're just another media fed parrot.
So you have no clue about the actual topic. Got it.
Military spending is the topic, and you don't have any idea how much is spent. To say you do is a lie.
No, the topic is: if we spend so much (regardless of the actual amount), why can't we beat nothing countries like Iraq and Afghanistan, Nam, Korea...
 
Technology cost a lot of money, you ever hear of a B2 getting shot down?

.
I also never heard of a B2 bomber that was in a war that was won.
...Desert Storm?
Not a true win, we let them off the hook right at the end. That's like fighting the Nazis all the back to Berlin and then stopping just before you take out Hitler.

We never pulled out of Germany did we? Obama tried to pull out of Iraq and caused a cluster mess.

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Not what we're talking about. Please try again.

It's exactly what we are talking about
 
... and can't get the job done against countries that spend 100 times less that they need to inject another $50 billion, isn't there something fundamentally wrong with the military and the way it's set up and operates?
You have no idea how much is spent on anything. You're just another media fed parrot.
So you have no clue about the actual topic. Got it.
Military spending is the topic, and you don't have any idea how much is spent. To say you do is a lie.
No, the topic is: if we spend so much (regardless of the actual amount), why can't we beat nothing countries like Iraq and Afghanistan, Nam, Korea...
Liberals like you is why.
 
... and can't get the job done against countries that spend 100 times less that they need to inject another $50 billion, isn't there something fundamentally wrong with the military and the way it's set up and operates?
You have no idea how much is spent on anything. You're just another media fed parrot.
So you have no clue about the actual topic. Got it.
Military spending is the topic, and you don't have any idea how much is spent. To say you do is a lie.
No, the topic is: if we spend so much (regardless of the actual amount), why can't we beat nothing countries like Iraq and Afghanistan, Nam, Korea...

Obama's 8 years of an apology tour
 
... and can't get the job done against countries that spend 100 times less that they need to inject another $50 billion, isn't there something fundamentally wrong with the military and the way it's set up and operates?
You have no idea how much is spent on anything. You're just another media fed parrot.
So you have no clue about the actual topic. Got it.
Military spending is the topic, and you don't have any idea how much is spent. To say you do is a lie.
No, the topic is: if we spend so much (regardless of the actual amount), why can't we beat nothing countries like Iraq and Afghanistan, Nam, Korea...
Liberals like you is why.
So you don't know. Got it.
 
... and can't get the job done against countries that spend 100 times less that they need to inject another $50 billion, isn't there something fundamentally wrong with the military and the way it's set up and operates?
You have no idea how much is spent on anything. You're just another media fed parrot.
So you have no clue about the actual topic. Got it.
Military spending is the topic, and you don't have any idea how much is spent. To say you do is a lie.
No, the topic is: if we spend so much (regardless of the actual amount), why can't we beat nothing countries like Iraq and Afghanistan, Nam, Korea...

Obama's 8 years of an apology tour
So you don't know. Got it. Thanks for playing.
 
You have no idea how much is spent on anything. You're just another media fed parrot.
So you have no clue about the actual topic. Got it.
Military spending is the topic, and you don't have any idea how much is spent. To say you do is a lie.
No, the topic is: if we spend so much (regardless of the actual amount), why can't we beat nothing countries like Iraq and Afghanistan, Nam, Korea...

Obama's 8 years of an apology tour
So you don't know. Got it. Thanks for playing.


# tag the jv ~Obama
 
You have no idea how much is spent on anything. You're just another media fed parrot.
So you have no clue about the actual topic. Got it.
Military spending is the topic, and you don't have any idea how much is spent. To say you do is a lie.
No, the topic is: if we spend so much (regardless of the actual amount), why can't we beat nothing countries like Iraq and Afghanistan, Nam, Korea...

Obama's 8 years of an apology tour
So you don't know. Got it. Thanks for playing.
Sounds like you're stuck in the mudda. Can't figure out how to reply so you post junior high "got it". LOL
 
So you have no clue about the actual topic. Got it.
Military spending is the topic, and you don't have any idea how much is spent. To say you do is a lie.
No, the topic is: if we spend so much (regardless of the actual amount), why can't we beat nothing countries like Iraq and Afghanistan, Nam, Korea...

Obama's 8 years of an apology tour
So you don't know. Got it. Thanks for playing.
Sounds like you're stuck in the mudda. Can't figure out how to reply so you post junior high "got it". LOL
Try answering the actual topic.
 
Military spending is the topic, and you don't have any idea how much is spent. To say you do is a lie.
No, the topic is: if we spend so much (regardless of the actual amount), why can't we beat nothing countries like Iraq and Afghanistan, Nam, Korea...

Obama's 8 years of an apology tour
So you don't know. Got it. Thanks for playing.
Sounds like you're stuck in the mudda. Can't figure out how to reply so you post junior high "got it". LOL
Try answering the actual topic.


Your going in circles and don't even know what the topic is about


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