If statism is progress, why is history full of statism

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Conservatives typically want more military funding, that's statism too, no?

Could be. I am at least open to that discussion.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Who said that statism is progress?

Goose-stepping commies.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

and it never ended well? Wouldnt PROGRESS be learning from our mistakes?
Do the regressives understand, in this country alone, most of what you bitch about came from the GOVERNMENT?

you're a pretty good poster

He's an idiot.

you must be a college professor, imparting all that left wing knowledge and what-not...I suspect Berkeley

 

[Tehon]

and it never ended well? Wouldnt PROGRESS be learning from our mistakes?
Do the regressives understand, in this country alone, most of what you bitch about came from the GOVERNMENT?

you're a pretty good poster

He's an idiot.

Thanks mr obtuse! Means a lot!
"do you mean law?"

I'm just trying to understand because you really haven't defined anything here.

But you sure do know your buzzwords.

 

[Tehon]

and it never ended well? Wouldnt PROGRESS be learning from our mistakes?
Do the regressives understand, in this country alone, most of what you bitch about came from the GOVERNMENT?

you're a pretty good poster

He's an idiot.

you must be a college professor, imparting all that left wing knowledge and what-not...I suspect Berkeley

I stayed at a holiday inn.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

By "statist policies" do you mean law?

No, he just meant suggestions.

 

[Tehon]

By "statist policies" do you mean law?

No, he just meant suggestions.

Then why use a buzzword?

 

[Frankeneinstein]

and it never ended well? Wouldnt PROGRESS be learning from our mistakes?
Do the regressives understand, in this country alone, most of what you bitch about came from the GOVERNMENT?

you're a pretty good poster

He's an idiot.

Thanks mr obtuse! Means a lot!
"do you mean law?"

and it never ended well? Wouldnt PROGRESS be learning from our mistakes?
Do the regressives understand, in this country alone, most of what you bitch about came from the GOVERNMENT?

you're a pretty good poster

He's an idiot.

you must be a college professor, imparting all that left wing knowledge and what-not...I suspect Berkeley

I stayed at a holiday inn.

lol...I appreciate good humor...nicely done

 

[TNHarley]

By "statist policies" do you mean law?

No, he just meant suggestions.

Then why use a buzzword?

you are entertaining
thanks

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself. We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence.

the person who said this also said

Philosophy stands in the same relation to the study of the actual world as masturbation to sexual love.

Which I interpret as meaning that he never intended anyone to take his bullshit seriously to the point of kill MILLIONS of people in the process.

Statists have bastardized everything they get their hands on for the sole purpose of power.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Conservatives typically want more military funding, that's statism too, no?

yes and it is socialist as well which is why it needs to be kept right where it is and out of civilian/private life...in fact I would put forth that if you do not want to live a military style existence you should disavow statism/socialism, or at east separate it/them from everyday life.

 

[Tehon]

Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself. We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence.

the person who said this also said

Philosophy stands in the same relation to the study of the actual world as masturbation to sexual love.

Which I interpret as meaning that he never intended anyone to take his bullshit seriously to the point of kill MILLIONS of people in the process.

Statists have bastardized everything they get their hands on for the sole purpose of power.

That is a quote from The German Ideology. In it Marx is critical of the idealist followers of Hegel. Marx's dialectic was rooted in materialism.

It has not occurred to any one of these philosophers to inquire into the connection of German philosophy with German reality, the relation of their criticism to their own material surroundings.

The German Ideology

Your interpretation is the same as every other indoctrinated idiot I come across.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

and it never ended well? Wouldnt PROGRESS be learning from our mistakes?
Do the regressives understand, in this country alone, most of what you bitch about came from the GOVERNMENT?

They don't understand much of anything, hence, the reason they believe much of what they do.

Oh, and, you know, feelings.....

 

[g5000]

"Statism" is such a broad term, it is useless to discuss without specifics.

For example, government control of the money supply is statism.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself. We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence.

the person who said this also said

Philosophy stands in the same relation to the study of the actual world as masturbation to sexual love.

Which I interpret as meaning that he never intended anyone to take his bullshit seriously to the point of kill MILLIONS of people in the process.

Statists have bastardized everything they get their hands on for the sole purpose of power.

That is a quote from The German Ideology. In it Marx is critical of the idealist followers of Hegel. Marx's own philosophy was rooted in materialism.

It has not occurred to any one of these philosophers to inquire into the connection of German philosophy with German reality, the relation of their criticism to their own material surroundings.

The German Ideology

Your interpretation is the same as every other indoctrinated idiot I come across.

do you consider yourself a marxist?...in any case would you say your views more closely resemble the American right or the left?

 

[Tehon]

Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself. We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence.

the person who said this also said

Philosophy stands in the same relation to the study of the actual world as masturbation to sexual love.

Which I interpret as meaning that he never intended anyone to take his bullshit seriously to the point of kill MILLIONS of people in the process.

Statists have bastardized everything they get their hands on for the sole purpose of power.

That is a quote from The German Ideology. In it Marx is critical of the idealist followers of Hegel. Marx's own philosophy was rooted in materialism.

It has not occurred to any one of these philosophers to inquire into the connection of German philosophy with German reality, the relation of their criticism to their own material surroundings.

The German Ideology

Your interpretation is the same as every other indoctrinated idiot I come across.

do you consider yourself a marxist?...in any case would you say your views more closely resemble the American right or the left?

I do. My views are more aligned with the left. I should say that I don't consider the democratic party as a leftist party.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself. We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence.

the person who said this also said

Philosophy stands in the same relation to the study of the actual world as masturbation to sexual love.

Which I interpret as meaning that he never intended anyone to take his bullshit seriously to the point of kill MILLIONS of people in the process.

Statists have bastardized everything they get their hands on for the sole purpose of power.

That is a quote from The German Ideology. In it Marx is critical of the idealist followers of Hegel. Marx's own philosophy was rooted in materialism.

It has not occurred to any one of these philosophers to inquire into the connection of German philosophy with German reality, the relation of their criticism to their own material surroundings.

The German Ideology

Your interpretation is the same as every other indoctrinated idiot I come across.

do you consider yourself a marxist?...in any case would you say your views more closely resemble the American right or the left?

I do. My views are more aligned with the left. I should say that I don't consider the democratic party as a leftist party.

but as a marxist you would much prefer our left to our right?...is that fair to say?

 

[Tehon]

Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself. We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence.

the person who said this also said

Philosophy stands in the same relation to the study of the actual world as masturbation to sexual love.

Which I interpret as meaning that he never intended anyone to take his bullshit seriously to the point of kill MILLIONS of people in the process.

Statists have bastardized everything they get their hands on for the sole purpose of power.

That is a quote from The German Ideology. In it Marx is critical of the idealist followers of Hegel. Marx's own philosophy was rooted in materialism.

It has not occurred to any one of these philosophers to inquire into the connection of German philosophy with German reality, the relation of their criticism to their own material surroundings.

The German Ideology

Your interpretation is the same as every other indoctrinated idiot I come across.

do you consider yourself a marxist?...in any case would you say your views more closely resemble the American right or the left?

I do. My views are more aligned with the left. I should say that I don't consider the democratic party as a leftist party.

but as a marxist you would much prefer our left to our right?...is that fair to say?

Not necessarily. I agree with Trump on trade.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

the person who said this also said
Which I interpret as meaning that he never intended anyone to take his bullshit seriously to the point of kill MILLIONS of people in the process.

Statists have bastardized everything they get their hands on for the sole purpose of power.

That is a quote from The German Ideology. In it Marx is critical of the idealist followers of Hegel. Marx's own philosophy was rooted in materialism.

It has not occurred to any one of these philosophers to inquire into the connection of German philosophy with German reality, the relation of their criticism to their own material surroundings.

The German Ideology

Your interpretation is the same as every other indoctrinated idiot I come across.

do you consider yourself a marxist?...in any case would you say your views more closely resemble the American right or the left?

I do. My views are more aligned with the left. I should say that I don't consider the democratic party as a leftist party.

but as a marxist you would much prefer our left to our right?...is that fair to say?

Not necessarily. I agree with Trump on trade.

he'll be so disappointed...I was actually looking for party philosophy/defining beliefs when asking that, not individuals, but you can give me that now if you like...when I ask most marxists this question [there have been quite a few] they seldom pick a side for fear of casting the left in its true light,[ which is why I ask it] the ones that have answered directly have all chosen the left.

 

[Tehon]

That is a quote from The German Ideology. In it Marx is critical of the idealist followers of Hegel. Marx's own philosophy was rooted in materialism.

The German Ideology

Your interpretation is the same as every other indoctrinated idiot I come across.

do you consider yourself a marxist?...in any case would you say your views more closely resemble the American right or the left?

I do. My views are more aligned with the left. I should say that I don't consider the democratic party as a leftist party.

but as a marxist you would much prefer our left to our right?...is that fair to say?

Not necessarily. I agree with Trump on trade.

he'll be so disappointed...I was actually looking for party philosophy/defining beliefs when asking that, not individuals, but you can give me that now if you like...when I ask most marxists this question [there have been quite a few] they seldom pick a side for fear of casting the left in its true light,[ which is why I ask it] the ones that have answered directly have all chosen the left.

Who will be disappointed?