If our Constitution made liberalism, in effect, illegal what should we do with them?.

[JGalt]

Liberalism is based on socialism and communism, which are as incompatible with the U.S.constitution as Sharia Law would be.

The leftists will jump up and down and scream "It ain't true", but conservatism mirrors the doctrine that the framers of the constitution intended for this country. They looked at many other countries' constitutions and found them all wanting. So they came up with the most unique set of rights and rules the world had ever seen before then.

Not quite. They borrowed many aspects of the new governing structure from the Haudenosaunee (Iroquois) Confederacy. They also leaned heavily on old European standards.

maybe put the point is liberalism is anti American; so what should real Americans do about it?

Vote them out of existence.. We haven't reached the "cartridge box" solution yet. Close, but not quite.

 

[Pogo]

Liberalism is based on socialism and communism, which are as incompatible with the U.S.constitution as Sharia Law would be.

The leftists will jump up and down and scream "It ain't true", but conservatism mirrors the doctrine that the framers of the constitution intended for this country. They looked at many other countries' constitutions and found them all wanting. So they came up with the most unique set of rights and rules the world had ever seen before then.

Not quite. They borrowed many aspects of the new governing structure from the Haudenosaunee (Iroquois) Confederacy. They also leaned heavily on old European standards.

maybe put the point is liberalism is anti American; so what should real Americans do about it?

I told you way back when you started this thread, Emptypants --- Liberalism is literally what created America. It can't possibly be "anti-American" any more than water can be dry.

Your problem is you need to learn how to STFU and listen to your superiors, which means everybody.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Liberalism is based on socialism and communism, which are as incompatible with the U.S.constitution as Sharia Law would be.

The leftists will jump up and down and scream "It ain't true", but conservatism mirrors the doctrine that the framers of the constitution intended for this country. They looked at many other countries' constitutions and found them all wanting. So they came up with the most unique set of rights and rules the world had ever seen before then.

Not quite. They borrowed many aspects of the new governing structure from the Haudenosaunee (Iroquois) Confederacy. They also leaned heavily on old European standards.

Our ruling

The Facebook meme said "the U.S. Constitution owes its notion of democracy to the Iroquois Tribes."

There’s a grain of truth here: The Iroquois system of government was known to 18th century leaders in the colonies and the new republic, and it shared some similarities with post-revolutionary attempts at governance.

However, the meme overstates the consensus among historians. Major elements of the Iroquois system are altogether absent in the U.S. government, including hereditary, clan-based governance, and the meme focuses on Iroquois influences to the exclusion of European precedents that are at least as important, and likely more so.

On balance, we rate the claim Mostly False.

 

[Darkwind]

Let's keep in mind that democracy is not our strength since liberals get to vote too. Our strength is the Constitution which was intended to make big liberal magical govt illegal, and freedom the law of the land. Conservatives are the real Americans who believe in the principles of the Constitution. Thus it is they who set Europe free from big liberal magical govt through two world wars and they who just set 1.4 billion Chinese free from big liberal magical govt uniting most of the world in a peaceful common ideology. Oh, and there is no reason to acknowledge our faults (which are trivial in the big picture) to suit treasonous liberals who oppose everything for which our Founders and modern conservative Americans stand. So what do we do with liberals who really don't belong here in the first place and who constantly interfere with our good works?

If you are intellectually consistent, and actually do believe the Constitution is our saving grace, then you must come to the conclusion that you do nothing to liberals.

You either believe in freedom and liberty or you don't. That applies to every American citizen, regardless of your agreement or disagreement with them.

BTW..we are NOT a Democracy.

 

[bripat9643]

maybe put the point is liberalism is anti American; so what should real Americans do about it?

This real American plans on voting for the best candidates. Most of them are, of course, people who have a (D) after their names.

Real Americans wouldn't think of voting for a Dim.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

-- Liberalism is literally what created America. .

You mean classical liberalism ie liberty from big govt. Modern liberalism is 100% opposed to classical liberalism to the point where it is now openly socialist. You have learned this 26 times now. Shall we go for 27?

 

[bripat9643]

Liberalism is based on socialism and communism, which are as incompatible with the U.S.constitution as Sharia Law would be.

The leftists will jump up and down and scream "It ain't true", but conservatism mirrors the doctrine that the framers of the constitution intended for this country. They looked at many other countries' constitutions and found them all wanting. So they came up with the most unique set of rights and rules the world had ever seen before then.

Not quite. They borrowed many aspects of the new governing structure from the Haudenosaunee (Iroquois) Confederacy. They also leaned heavily on old European standards.

maybe put the point is liberalism is anti American; so what should real Americans do about it?

I told you way back when you started this thread, Emptypants --- Liberalism is literally what created America. It can't possibly be "anti-American" any more than water can be dry.

Your problem is you need to learn how to STFU and listen to your superiors, which means everybody.

As you have been told countless times, modern day liberalism has no connection of any kind with what the Founding Fathers believe. Modern liberalism has it's roots in Marxism and Utopian socialism, not 18th Century liberalism.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Real Americans wouldn't think of voting for a Dim.

yes but why are they allowed to hold office when Constitution requires an oath that they swear to preserve, protect and defend Constitution? They are opposed to Constitution so cant legally hold office-right?

 

[JGalt]

maybe put the point is liberalism is anti American; so what should real Americans do about it?

This real American plans on voting for the best candidates. Most of them are, of course, people who have a (D) after their names.

Real Americans don't vote for Presidents who give enemies like Iran billions of dollars stacked up on a pallet, waiting to be loaded into a cargo plane.

Real Americans don't want to see millions of illegals including rapists, sexual offenders, murderers, drug dealers swarm into this country.

Real Americans don't leave other Americans to die in places like Benghazi, Libya, while lying to the American people and blaming it on a "Youtube video."

Real Americans don't work out deals where enemies like Russia gets access to a quarter of our uranium reserves.

Real Americans don't make hundreds of millions of dollars from speaking engagements to Russian oligarchs and Middle Eastern countries where women are treated like animals.

Real Americans don't support Presidents who hamstring our military by making gender-selection more important than funding and training.

Real Americans don't run illegal private servers in someone's bathroom, allowing Russian and Chinese hackers to steal everyone's email.

Real Americans don't use the power of the IRS to harass political opponents, nor do they use the power of the Justice Department to gin up fake stories and phony investigations against their political adversaries.

I could go on.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

If you are intellectually consistent, and actually do believe the Constitution is our saving grace, then you must come to the conclusion that you do nothing to liberals.
.

do nothing??? we can prevent them from holding office on grounds that they cant take oath of office-right?

 

[Pogo]

Liberalism is based on socialism and communism, which are as incompatible with the U.S.constitution as Sharia Law would be.

The leftists will jump up and down and scream "It ain't true", but conservatism mirrors the doctrine that the framers of the constitution intended for this country. They looked at many other countries' constitutions and found them all wanting. So they came up with the most unique set of rights and rules the world had ever seen before then.

Not quite. They borrowed many aspects of the new governing structure from the Haudenosaunee (Iroquois) Confederacy. They also leaned heavily on old European standards.

maybe put the point is liberalism is anti American; so what should real Americans do about it?

I told you way back when you started this thread, Emptypants --- Liberalism is literally what created America. It can't possibly be "anti-American" any more than water can be dry.

Your problem is you need to learn how to STFU and listen to your superiors, which means everybody.

As you have been told countless times, modern day liberalism has no connection of any kind with what the Founding Fathers believe. Modern liberalism has it's roots in Marxism and Utopian socialism, not 18th Century liberalism.

There is no "modern Liberalism" that has "it is roots" anywhere, Learn-how-to-English Boi. As YOU have been told, you don't get to just up and decide you'll turn a definition inside out just because your tiny little mind doesn't have the capacity to find a proper term.

Liberalism has "it is roots" in Locke and Voltaire and Jefferson and Madison, looooooooooong before Marx existed. Break open the piggy bank and go buy a history book. And share it with the OP with whose negative-number intellect you're competing.

 

[JGalt]

Liberalism is based on socialism and communism, which are as incompatible with the U.S.constitution as Sharia Law would be.

The leftists will jump up and down and scream "It ain't true", but conservatism mirrors the doctrine that the framers of the constitution intended for this country. They looked at many other countries' constitutions and found them all wanting. So they came up with the most unique set of rights and rules the world had ever seen before then.

Not quite. They borrowed many aspects of the new governing structure from the Haudenosaunee (Iroquois) Confederacy. They also leaned heavily on old European standards.

maybe put the point is liberalism is anti American; so what should real Americans do about it?

I told you way back when you started this thread, Emptypants --- Liberalism is literally what created America. It can't possibly be "anti-American" any more than water can be dry.

Your problem is you need to learn how to STFU and listen to your superiors, which means everybody.

Quit trying to redefine political labels. You have absolutely nothing in common with "classic liberalism". Your ideology as is the majority of today's liberal's is more aligned with a sick mixture of Marxism, anarchism, and National Socialism.

 

[bripat9643]

Liberalism is based on socialism and communism, which are as incompatible with the U.S.constitution as Sharia Law would be.

The leftists will jump up and down and scream "It ain't true", but conservatism mirrors the doctrine that the framers of the constitution intended for this country. They looked at many other countries' constitutions and found them all wanting. So they came up with the most unique set of rights and rules the world had ever seen before then.

Not quite. They borrowed many aspects of the new governing structure from the Haudenosaunee (Iroquois) Confederacy. They also leaned heavily on old European standards.

maybe put the point is liberalism is anti American; so what should real Americans do about it?

I told you way back when you started this thread, Emptypants --- Liberalism is literally what created America. It can't possibly be "anti-American" any more than water can be dry.

Your problem is you need to learn how to STFU and listen to your superiors, which means everybody.

As you have been told countless times, modern day liberalism has no connection of any kind with what the Founding Fathers believe. Modern liberalism has it's roots in Marxism and Utopian socialism, not 18th Century liberalism.

There is no "modern Liberalism" that has "it is roots" anywhere, Learn-how-to-English Boi. As YOU have been told, you don't get to just up and decide you'll turn a definition inside out just because your tiny little mind doesn't have the capacity to find a proper term.

Liberalism has "it is roots" in Locke and Voltaire and Jefferson and Madison, looooooooooong before Marx existed. Break open the piggy bank and go buy a history book. And share it with the OP with whose negative-number intellect you're competing.

Spare us. We know you're full of shit, and you know you're full of shit.

 

[regent]

Indeed, it’s the fear of change central to conservative dogma that renders conservativism the bane of American liberty, justice, and the rule of law .’

Hitler Stalin and Mao had no fear of change, Liberals never do because they are far too stupid to understand the situation. Why do you think our liberals spied for Stalin and gave him the bomb??

See what happens when you skip college?

Whenever I see these leftwing morons bleating about fear of change, I just look at all the socialist dictators who outrageously marched where angels feared to tread. Fear of change is a good thing, especially when we are talking about the changes that leftwing thugs want to make.

I assume you did not skip college, so what do you think of that period of tremendous changes called "the Age of Enlightenment"?

What do you think about that period of tremendous changes called the 20th Century when we had gulags, two world wars and several instances of genocide?

The Age of Enlightenment took a little longer and it gave us the biggie, science, new views on governments and so forth. It was a period of great changes in the world of ideas. The Age led to great changes in man's thought process and led to a liberal America and a liberal government.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Liberalism has "it is roots" in Locke and Voltaire and Jefferson and Madison, looooooooooong before Marx existed..

very true but those who call themselves liberal today 100% oppose the ideas of Jefferson and Madison so it would be senseless to call them liberal unless you wanted to be backwards about it.

 

[bripat9643]

Indeed, it’s the fear of change central to conservative dogma that renders conservativism the bane of American liberty, justice, and the rule of law .’

Hitler Stalin and Mao had no fear of change, Liberals never do because they are far too stupid to understand the situation. Why do you think our liberals spied for Stalin and gave him the bomb??

See what happens when you skip college?

Whenever I see these leftwing morons bleating about fear of change, I just look at all the socialist dictators who outrageously marched where angels feared to tread. Fear of change is a good thing, especially when we are talking about the changes that leftwing thugs want to make.

I assume you did not skip college, so what do you think of that period of tremendous changes called "the Age of Enlightenment"?

What do you think about that period of tremendous changes called the 20th Century when we had gulags, two world wars and several instances of genocide?

The Age of Enlightenment took a little longer and it gave us the biggie, science, new views on governments and so forth. It was a period of great changes in the world of ideas. The Age led to great changes in man's thought process and led to a liberal America and a liberal government.

The left reached its apogee in the 20th Century, the age of Gulags, concentration camps, multiple genocides and two world wars.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

led to a liberal America and a liberal government.

if you mean liberal in the sense of a very very tiny govt your are correct! Todays liberals are openly socialist so it would hardly makes sense to call them liberals and our Founders liberals given opposite philosophies. 1+1=2

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The left reached its apogee in the 20th Century, the age of Gulags, concentration camps, multiple genocides and two world wars.

Sure and it's just coincidental that our liberals spied for Stalin, gave him the bomb, and showed solidarity by marching in May Day parades!! It had nothing to do with their common ideology

 

[Aurora Woman]

Real Americans wouldn't think of voting for a Dim.

Thankfully you and your ilk are not allowed to define what constitutes a "real" American.

 

[Darkwind]

If you are intellectually consistent, and actually do believe the Constitution is our saving grace, then you must come to the conclusion that you do nothing to liberals.
.

do nothing??? we can prevent them from holding office on grounds that they cant take oath of office-right?

Well, this will be interesting.

On what grounds would you strand that they cannot take the oath of office?