If our Constitution made liberalism, in effect, illegal what should we do with them?.

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    Let's keep in mind that democracy is not our strength since liberals get to vote too. Our strength is the Constitution which was intended to make big liberal magical govt illegal, and freedom the law of the land. Conservatives are the real Americans who believe in the principles of the Constitution. Thus it is they who set Europe free from big liberal magical govt through two world wars and they who just set 1.4 billion Chinese free from big liberal magical govt uniting most of the world in a peaceful common ideology. Oh, and there is no reason to acknowledge our faults (which are trivial in the big picture) to suit treasonous liberals who oppose everything for which our Founders and modern conservative Americans stand. So what do we do with liberals who really don't belong here in the first place and who constantly interfere with our good works?
     
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    Liberalism is based on socialism and communism, which are as incompatible with the U.S.constitution as Sharia Law would be.

    The leftists will jump up and down and scream "It ain't true", but conservatism mirrors the doctrine that the framers of the constitution intended for this country. They looked at many other countries' constitutions and found them all wanting. So they came up with the most unique set of rights and rules the world had ever seen before then.
     
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    Special Ed gurgles again, blissfully unaware that Liberals are exactly who WROTE the Constitution. And that by the same token the Constitution is not only based on but a written expression of Liberalism.


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    Deport them to North Korea where they are already doing everything that they want
     
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    /Not thread

    Modern-day liberalism has little to do with the Colonial definition of "liberalism". The description “liberal” was used in colonial America as the political description for those seeking to change government to a more limited role (Lockean). In today’s context they would more likely be called “libertarian” not progressive. Even so, libertarianism is closely aligned with conservatism, as they both seek a limited government with constrained powers, the rights of the individual over the power of the state, and lower taxes.

    Modern-day liberalism embraces none of those values, and more resembles socialism than anything else. Modern-day liberalism believes in higher taxes, more dependence of government, and the willingness to forfeit certain personal liberties in exchange for the "security" big government affords them.

    Worse than that, modern-day liberalism seeks to impose what is "best" for everyone, by using the force and power of the government. We've seen this time and time again: No soda drinks over 16 ounces, no straws, restrictive gun laws, burdensome regulations on business and industry, restrictive consumer laws, and on, and on, and on.
     
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    Classic Liberalism is not based on communism and socialism. Name your sources for "They looked at many other countries' constitutions and found them all wanting." I would find it quite interesting.
     
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    Still /thread.

    You can't just arbitrarily decide you want to start calling a term to mean its own opposite. Language doesn't work that way. Liberalism is Liberalism is Liberalism, period. It means the government takes a minimal role in the public's affairs and that it operates with the consent of the governed. That IS what it means, period. The fact that you, or Special Ed (good intellectual company there) choose to remain ignorant about that meaning is in no way the fault of the term. The fault is yours.

    Oh and speaking of misused terms, nobody brought up "Progressive", which was a socio-political movement of a hundred years ago.

    So just to reiterate:

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    Were exactly is Liberalism declared illegal in the constitution? Chapter and verse.
     
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    The post about "classic Liberalism" is classic revisionism. The conservatives at the time the Constitution was writ were the Loylalists who wanted to remain England's colony and believed in government hierarchy/meritocracy. The conservatives were King George's people. Now he wants to open the history books and change everybody's clothes because his own people were on the wrong side.
     
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    Our founders were classical liberals ie for freedom from big liberal govt just like modern conservatives/libertarians. Make sense now?
     
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