If Jesus couldn't keep HIMSELF out of trouble...

[Cecilie1200]

Yanno.........you people who cite Leviticus as justification for hating gays, well......I've got 1 question for you......

Why are you using a manual that was written SPECIFICALLY for those of the Jewish faith who were the priests?

Are you guys Jewish priests? If not, then quit cherry picking.

What gets me is the selective use of Leviticus. Why isn't there more outcry about eating shellfish?

If you have to ask, you merely reveal how woefully ignorant and uneducated you are about the Bible, and thus unqualified to be taken seriously on the subject.

Please understand that I'm not suggesting that you have no right to comment on it. I'm simply suggesting that your comments are of no more value than if my two-year-old commented on Christian theology. Less, actually, because he's at least cute and charming when he talks.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Pffft. What do they know? Wonky. Has. Spoken.

Glad you're finally figuring this out, Davey.

Of course, the resident twat thinks she can pull out random quotes to prove that atheism is necessary in a communist society, but again she gets reamed by facts. The Marx/Engels manifesto says that religion disappears of its own accord under communism, not that it has to be outlawed by fiat.

Yeah, you just keep pretending you know more than Communism's founding fathers and people who lived under its oppression. You're more credible than they are. No, really.

Isn't that at the heart of what leftists believe? "The only reason Communism didn't work before is because WE weren't in charge of it!"

 

[Cecilie1200]

David Hume is a philosopher. He's a man, not a god.

That was my point!

God is a concept. He can't be God, because he has ordinary and negative emotions.

And NOW Sky thinks she's been appointed to define what God is and isn't and can and can't have. Yeah, no arrogance and hubris THERE. I think we should ALL become Buddhists so that the sun can rise and set in our assholes.

Seriously, if this sort of attitude is really what Buddhists today are teaching, methinks Buddha is rolling over in his grave somewhere.

 

[Sky Dancer]

That was my point!

God is a concept. He can't be God, because he has ordinary and negative emotions.

Pretty sure of yourself. How exactly do you explain and justify your absolutes?

I read the bible. God's ordinary and negative emotions are on display.

 

[Divine Wind]

God is a concept. He can't be God, because he has ordinary and negative emotions.

Pretty sure of yourself. How exactly do you explain and justify your absolutes?

I read the bible. God's ordinary and negative emotions are on display.

I think the Bible is more of an example of a human being's perception of God than a true depiction of God. As stated before, I seriously doubt any human being can understand God due to the simple limitations of our mortal capabilities.

 

[daveman]

Glad you're finally figuring this out, Davey.

Of course, the resident twat thinks she can pull out random quotes to prove that atheism is necessary in a communist society, but again she gets reamed by facts. The Marx/Engels manifesto says that religion disappears of its own accord under communism, not that it has to be outlawed by fiat.

Yeah, you just keep pretending you know more than Communism's founding fathers and people who lived under its oppression. You're more credible than they are. No, really.

Isn't that at the heart of what leftists believe? "The only reason Communism didn't work before is because WE weren't in charge of it!"

Yup. That and "The only reason it didn't work was the United States always interfered!!"

It takes a special kind of stupid to believe Communism could ever work.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Communism had lofty goals, but human greed won out.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Pretty sure of yourself. How exactly do you explain and justify your absolutes?

I read the bible. God's ordinary and negative emotions are on display.

I think the Bible is more of an example of a human being's perception of God than a true depiction of God. As stated before, I seriously doubt any human being can understand God due to the simple limitations of our mortal capabilities.

I completely agree. Many negative emotions, like rage and anger, threats, violence, jealousy, and pride are among the concepts human beings have of God.

Religion is fear based. Enlightenment is not.

 

[Sky Dancer]

That was my point!

God is a concept. He can't be God, because he has ordinary and negative emotions.

And NOW Sky thinks she's been appointed to define what God is and isn't and can and can't have. Yeah, no arrogance and hubris THERE. I think we should ALL become Buddhists so that the sun can rise and set in our assholes.

Seriously, if this sort of attitude is really what Buddhists today are teaching, methinks Buddha is rolling over in his grave somewhere.

I have no interest in seeing you or anyone else become a Buddhist. I wish for all beings that they become Buddhas, not Buddhists. If your religion causes you to awaken to Buddhahood and to develop love, compassion, joy and equanimity, then I wish that you succeed in your religious goals.

Scriptures show god in a negative light; as angry, vengeful and judging, as punishing, and as jealous. God threatens alot.

I would think if God were God he would have positive qualities, instead of these negative ones.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Communism had lofty goals, but human greed won out.

What you call "greed," is simply survival. We evolved with the knowledge that those who produce and save, live to create the next generation, those who put what they produce or gather into the pot, die off with the rest of the tribe when hunger comes along.

Communism runs contrary to the evolutionary impetus of the species.

 

[daveman]

Communism had lofty goals, but human greed won out.

See, that's the trouble with all leftist Utopian schemes: They simply do not take human nature into account.

That's why they're doomed to failure. Every time.

 

[Divine Wind]

Communism had lofty goals, but human greed won out.

See, that's the trouble with all leftist Utopian schemes: They simply do not take human nature into account.

That's why they're doomed to failure. Every time.

Agreed, but I wouldn't restrict it to only leftist Utopias. Anything, left or right, up or down, if taken to an extreme is bad because human nature doesn't work that way. This is why those who advocate laissez faire capitalism, anarcho-capitalism aka “libertarian anarchy" and the like don't understand the end results would be bad if such a thing was allowed to happen.

 

[logical4u]

David Hume is a philosopher. He's a man, not a god.

That was my point!

God is a concept. He can't be God, because he has ordinary and negative emotions.

Says a person that claims not to believe in the Lord, but elevates people to godlike status.

 

[logical4u]

God is a concept. He can't be God, because he has ordinary and negative emotions.

Pretty sure of yourself. How exactly do you explain and justify your absolutes?

I read the bible. God's ordinary and negative emotions are on display.

When is the last time a person got sooooo angry, they flooded the earth?

 

[logical4u]

Communism had lofty goals, but human greed won out.

Communism is an idea, there is no way "it" can act. That leaves people, and yes, greed will win out unless people are educated in morals.

 

[logical4u]

God is a concept. He can't be God, because he has ordinary and negative emotions.

And NOW Sky thinks she's been appointed to define what God is and isn't and can and can't have. Yeah, no arrogance and hubris THERE. I think we should ALL become Buddhists so that the sun can rise and set in our assholes.

Seriously, if this sort of attitude is really what Buddhists today are teaching, methinks Buddha is rolling over in his grave somewhere.

I have no interest in seeing you or anyone else become a Buddhist. I wish for all beings that they become Buddhas, not Buddhists. If your religion causes you to awaken to Buddhahood and to develop love, compassion, joy and equanimity, then I wish that you succeed in your religious goals.

Scriptures show god in a negative light; as angry, vengeful and judging, as punishing, and as jealous. God threatens alot.

I would think if God were God he would have positive qualities, instead of these negative ones.

The Lord gave all of us life, how is that not positive?

You claim to have read the Bible, I guess you are another one of those that have no ability to "comprehend" the Bible. Yeshua loved, healed, forgave, elevated, equated, and saved people. All have been invited to His table. If you want to throw a hissy fit because the "heavenly escorts" weren't sent for you, that is your choice. Stick with Buddha, see where he is on judgement day: hint: he will be on his knees in front of the Lord, just like all the rest of us. Maybe at that point you will realize, you chose wrong, but then again...........

 

[daveman]

Communism had lofty goals, but human greed won out.

See, that's the trouble with all leftist Utopian schemes: They simply do not take human nature into account.

That's why they're doomed to failure. Every time.

Agreed, but I wouldn't restrict it to only leftist Utopias. Anything, left or right, up or down, if taken to an extreme is bad because human nature doesn't work that way. This is why those who advocate laissez faire capitalism, anarcho-capitalism aka “libertarian anarchy" and the like don't understand the end results would be bad if such a thing was allowed to happen.

Indeed.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Communism had lofty goals, but human greed won out.

If only we could get lefty dumbasses to understand that good intentions don't mean shit if they don't take reality into account. No, we're NOT impressed with how you "meant well" when you plunged millions of people into a horrific situation because of facts that little children know and understand, but you refuse to.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Communism had lofty goals, but human greed won out.

If only we could get lefty dumbasses to understand that good intentions don't mean shit if they don't take reality into account. No, we're NOT impressed with how you "meant well" when you plunged millions of people into a horrific situation because of facts that little children know and understand, but you refuse to.

Who the fuck are you talking to? I am not, nor have I ever been, a member of the Communist party.

I have never harmed a child in my life.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Communism had lofty goals, but human greed won out.

Communism is an idea, there is no way "it" can act. That leaves people, and yes, greed will win out unless people are educated in morals.

Communism was a utopian ideal. It never worked. Human nature won out.