Idiots protesting mosque near Ground Zero attack two Christians

[ConHog]

So now you're implying that Christians are trying " to tear people limb from limb simply because they follow a different religion"?

Show me a list of Christian terrorist attacks.

Nigerian atheist attacked by a mob of Christians at a child witchcraft conference

I asked for a list and I get ONE example.

What part of LIST do you not understand?

Let's further keep it confined to the USA. I mean we'd be here the rest of our lives posting worldwide Muslim attacks.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Only an idiot would attempt to compare Christianity to Islam in it's use of terror. I always find the person who does this doesn't have a clue about either religion.

It's pathetically funny and sad.

When talking about the current killings in the name of religion what other groups should be looked at other than the two largest?

 

[ConHog]

Only an idiot would attempt to compare Christianity to Islam in it's use of terror. I always find the person who does this doesn't have a clue about either religion.

It's pathetically funny and sad.

When talking about the current killings in the name of religion what other groups should be looked at other than the two largest?

I think he was saying the same thing we are. That it's ridiculous to suggest that Christians are as violent as Muslims. Not that it's ridiculous to discuss it.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

That's what I thought, you're a lying sack of shit.

Surely you are not just NOW figuring that out?

This stalking thing when you've only been here for a few days is quite interesting. It certainly appears that you have a history outside this message board with sangha.

Oh stop with the stalking bullshit! Hell I could say you're stalking me 'cause you show up in every thread I post in. Or vice versa. Grow the fuck up!

 

[Jack Fate]

Christian terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Some historical...some current. With links to more about each group.

Wikipedia is not a scholarly site. It can be edited by anyone. Any credible person doesn't use Wikipedia.

Eh Wikopedia is a fair a source as many others used in message board debates.

Nope. It can be edited by anyone. That makes it open to biased information. There are many educators who will not accept wikipedia quotes from students.

wikipedia is not a reliable source - Google Search

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Only an idiot would attempt to compare Christianity to Islam in it's use of terror. I always find the person who does this doesn't have a clue about either religion.

It's pathetically funny and sad.

When talking about the current killings in the name of religion what other groups should be looked at other than the two largest?

I think he was saying the same thing we are. That it's ridiculous to suggest that Christians are as violent as Muslims. Not that it's ridiculous to discuss it.

I see, well I understand that Christians have done their share of commiting violent acts, but not near the amount or to the degree than those of Islamic faith. Seriously if you hear of a terrorist attack, any rational person would immediately assume it was an Islamic extremist.

 

[ConHog]

When talking about the current killings in the name of religion what other groups should be looked at other than the two largest?

I think he was saying the same thing we are. That it's ridiculous to suggest that Christians are as violent as Muslims. Not that it's ridiculous to discuss it.

I see, well I understand that Christians have done their share of commiting violent acts, but not near the amount or to the degree than those of Islamic faith. Seriously if you hear of a terrorist attack, any rational person would immediately assume it was an Islamic extremist.

Unless you're in Obama's administration then you assume it was one of those nasty "teabaggers"

 

[sangha]

Afro-Netizen: ?God Sent the Shooter?: White Christian terrorism and the assassination of Dr. George Tiller

White Supremacist Matt Hale Convicted - Blogcritics Culture

(7/26/99) Benjamin "August" Smith: Poised to Kill

Michigan Christian Militia Hutaree Targeted Law Enforcement - ABC News

Anti-Abortion Take Religious Violence in America to New Lows - The Tech

 

[Woyzeck]

So now you're implying that Christians are trying " to tear people limb from limb simply because they follow a different religion"?

Show me a list of Christian terrorist attacks.

Nigerian atheist attacked by a mob of Christians at a child witchcraft conference

I asked for a list and I get ONE example.

What part of LIST do you not understand?

Allow me to help:

2001: According to the Feminist Majority Foundation in Arlington, Virginia, Over 170 abortion clinics and doctors' offices in 14 states and the District of Columbia received threatening letters claiming to contain anthrax. The envelopes had return addresses from the U.S. Secret Service and U.S. Marshall Service with postmarks from Atlanta, GA; Knoxville, TN; Chattanooga, TN; or Columbus, OH. The envelopes were also marked, "TIME SENSITIVE: Urgent Security Notice Enclosed." When opened by clinic staff, all letters contained a white powder with a letter stating, "You have been exposed to anthrax. We are going to kill all of you. Army of God, Virginia DARE Chapter."

2003: A nurse has been charged with firing a shotgun at an abortion clinic in Asheville before it opened on Thursday, according to police. Brenda Kaye Phillips, 44, a registered nurse, was charged a misdemeanor count of damage to property for shooting at the Femcare Women's Clinic. The same clinic was the target of bomb four years ago.

2003: Klan leader David Wayne Hull was arrested at his Washington County, Pennsylvania, home on February 13 for allegedly planning to blow up an abortion clinic. Federal prosecutors charged Hull, a forty-year-old Imperial Wizard of the White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, a small Pennsylvania-based group, with receiving, manufacturing, possessing and transferring a destructive device in violation of the National Firearms Act. At a preliminary hearing in U.S. District Court in Pittsburgh on February 18, prosecutors accused Hull of trying to buy hand grenades from a witness cooperating with the FBI. According to an unsealed criminal complaint, Hull told the informant he was "going to blow up abortion clinics." Authorities say that Hull told the informant he made his car a "suicide bomb on wheels." In July 2002, Hull attended the "Aryan Nations World Congress," convened by the Pennsylvania faction of the neo-Nazi Aryan Nations. He is also a follower of Christian Identity, a racist and anti-Semitic sect whose adherents believe that white people are God's chosen people, descended from the lost tribes of ancient Israel, and that minorities are soulless "mud peoples."

2004: A man who was accused of plotting to firebomb abortion clinics, churches, and gay bars was sentenced yesterday to five years in federal prison. Stephen John Jordi, 36, pleaded guilty in February to a single charge of attempted arson of an abortion clinic. Prosecutors had asked Judge James Cohn to sentence Jordi under a federal terrorism law and sought seven to 10 years. Cohn refused, saying federal sentencing rules require that plots have an international component to be considered terrorism. "This crime was strictly domestic and in no way transcended national boundaries," Cohn said. Jordi and a government informant bought gasoline cans, flares, starter fluid, and propane tanks the day he was arrested last November after casing several South Florida abortion clinics and talking about bombing one in Macon, Ga., according to the FBI. Prosecutor John Schlesinger said he "respectfully disagreed" with the judge's decision not to sentence Jordi as a terrorist.

2005: A 24-year-old Shreveport woman and her 18-year-old boyfriend have been charged with attempting to bomb an abortion clinic. Authorities say Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe were arrested and booked into City Jail. Hughes was charged with manufacturing and possession of a delayed incendiary device. Dunahoe was charged as an accessory. Hope Medical Group for Women wasn't damaged when someone tossed a Molotov cocktail at it about 10:45 the night of December 12th.

2005: A suspicious fire damaged an abortion clinic, and federal agents launched an investigation, authorities said Tuesday. The FBI and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives joined local authorities in the investigation of the blaze late Monday at the Presidential Women's Clinic. No one was injured. Details on the extent of damage were not immediately available. It appeared that lighter fluid or some other accelerant was used to start the blaze, fire department spokesman Phil Kaplan said. A July 2004 fire damaged another Palm Beach County abortion clinic and a 2003 blaze damaged one in neighboring Broward County.

2006: Evidence teams plan to put on protective gear and seal the room as they search for any clues left behind on a contraption that investigators are calling a "weapon of mass destruction." Technicians will be looking for fingerprints and any other evidence that may have been left on the device, which was pumping a mix of water and a caustic chemical into a sex shop when neighbors found it Sunday morning, detectives said. The evidence crew will be breathing the air inside the room, but won't have any unprotected contact with the plastic jugs, duct tape, and hoses that make up the device. In Waldo, people have held prayer vigils and protests aimed at an adult bookstore along US 301, trying to keep the "Cafe Risque" from opening its doors on time.

2006: A man who told police he made a pipe bomb to attack an abortion clinic was arrested Thursday, shortly before the device went off in a friend's home while authorities tried to disable it, according to court documents. ... Weiler faces four federal counts including making a destructive device and possessing an illegal handgun. He was being held Thursday. Phone messages left at Weiler's home were not returned. A car in the driveway had a frame around the front license plate that read "Choose Life" and "God is pro-Life."

Christian Terrorist Cells in the USA - Commonplace Book

The link above even sources them to local news organizations. One sadly has a broken link, though.

Enjoy the list!

 

[bodecea]

When talking about the current killings in the name of religion what other groups should be looked at other than the two largest?

I think he was saying the same thing we are. That it's ridiculous to suggest that Christians are as violent as Muslims. Not that it's ridiculous to discuss it.

I see, well I understand that Christians have done their share of commiting violent acts, but not near the amount or to the degree than those of Islamic faith. Seriously if you hear of a terrorist attack, any rational person would immediately assume it was an Islamic extremist.

That's why Muslim Americans were detained right after the Oklahoma City bombing.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Afro-Netizen: ?God Sent the Shooter?: White Christian terrorism and the assassination of Dr. George Tiller

White Supremacist Matt Hale Convicted - Blogcritics Culture

(7/26/99) Benjamin "August" Smith: Poised to Kill

Michigan Christian Militia Hutaree Targeted Law Enforcement - ABC News

Anti-Abortion Take Religious Violence in America to New Lows - The Tech

Damn your reaching ain't ya?

Lets take them one by one. The first "God Sent the Shooter?", notice the question mark. fact is it was written on a sign "wielded by anti-abortion protestors at the funeral of slain doctor George Tiller" hardly a smoking gun that Roeder killed for religious purposes.

Next one, "White Supremacist Matt Hale Convicted". he didn't kill anyone, he was convicted of "beng a felon in possession of a firearm".

Next, "Benjamin "August" Smith: Poised to Kill", Smith motives were driven by racism not Christianity.

Next, "Michigan Christian Militia Hutaree Targeted Law ...", here again, no one was killed.

And lastly, "Anti-Abortion Take Religious Violence in America to New Lows", I'll give you this one.

Did you read any of this stuff before you posted it?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Nigerian atheist attacked by a mob of Christians at a child witchcraft conference

I asked for a list and I get ONE example.

What part of LIST do you not understand?

Allow me to help:

2001: According to the Feminist Majority Foundation in Arlington, Virginia, Over 170 abortion clinics and doctors' offices in 14 states and the District of Columbia received threatening letters claiming to contain anthrax. The envelopes had return addresses from the U.S. Secret Service and U.S. Marshall Service with postmarks from Atlanta, GA; Knoxville, TN; Chattanooga, TN; or Columbus, OH. The envelopes were also marked, "TIME SENSITIVE: Urgent Security Notice Enclosed." When opened by clinic staff, all letters contained a white powder with a letter stating, "You have been exposed to anthrax. We are going to kill all of you. Army of God, Virginia DARE Chapter."

2003: A nurse has been charged with firing a shotgun at an abortion clinic in Asheville before it opened on Thursday, according to police. Brenda Kaye Phillips, 44, a registered nurse, was charged a misdemeanor count of damage to property for shooting at the Femcare Women's Clinic. The same clinic was the target of bomb four years ago.

2003: Klan leader David Wayne Hull was arrested at his Washington County, Pennsylvania, home on February 13 for allegedly planning to blow up an abortion clinic. Federal prosecutors charged Hull, a forty-year-old Imperial Wizard of the White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, a small Pennsylvania-based group, with receiving, manufacturing, possessing and transferring a destructive device in violation of the National Firearms Act. At a preliminary hearing in U.S. District Court in Pittsburgh on February 18, prosecutors accused Hull of trying to buy hand grenades from a witness cooperating with the FBI. According to an unsealed criminal complaint, Hull told the informant he was "going to blow up abortion clinics." Authorities say that Hull told the informant he made his car a "suicide bomb on wheels." In July 2002, Hull attended the "Aryan Nations World Congress," convened by the Pennsylvania faction of the neo-Nazi Aryan Nations. He is also a follower of Christian Identity, a racist and anti-Semitic sect whose adherents believe that white people are God's chosen people, descended from the lost tribes of ancient Israel, and that minorities are soulless "mud peoples."

2004: A man who was accused of plotting to firebomb abortion clinics, churches, and gay bars was sentenced yesterday to five years in federal prison. Stephen John Jordi, 36, pleaded guilty in February to a single charge of attempted arson of an abortion clinic. Prosecutors had asked Judge James Cohn to sentence Jordi under a federal terrorism law and sought seven to 10 years. Cohn refused, saying federal sentencing rules require that plots have an international component to be considered terrorism. "This crime was strictly domestic and in no way transcended national boundaries," Cohn said. Jordi and a government informant bought gasoline cans, flares, starter fluid, and propane tanks the day he was arrested last November after casing several South Florida abortion clinics and talking about bombing one in Macon, Ga., according to the FBI. Prosecutor John Schlesinger said he "respectfully disagreed" with the judge's decision not to sentence Jordi as a terrorist.

2005: A 24-year-old Shreveport woman and her 18-year-old boyfriend have been charged with attempting to bomb an abortion clinic. Authorities say Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe were arrested and booked into City Jail. Hughes was charged with manufacturing and possession of a delayed incendiary device. Dunahoe was charged as an accessory. Hope Medical Group for Women wasn't damaged when someone tossed a Molotov cocktail at it about 10:45 the night of December 12th.

2005: A suspicious fire damaged an abortion clinic, and federal agents launched an investigation, authorities said Tuesday. The FBI and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives joined local authorities in the investigation of the blaze late Monday at the Presidential Women's Clinic. No one was injured. Details on the extent of damage were not immediately available. It appeared that lighter fluid or some other accelerant was used to start the blaze, fire department spokesman Phil Kaplan said. A July 2004 fire damaged another Palm Beach County abortion clinic and a 2003 blaze damaged one in neighboring Broward County.

2006: Evidence teams plan to put on protective gear and seal the room as they search for any clues left behind on a contraption that investigators are calling a "weapon of mass destruction." Technicians will be looking for fingerprints and any other evidence that may have been left on the device, which was pumping a mix of water and a caustic chemical into a sex shop when neighbors found it Sunday morning, detectives said. The evidence crew will be breathing the air inside the room, but won't have any unprotected contact with the plastic jugs, duct tape, and hoses that make up the device. In Waldo, people have held prayer vigils and protests aimed at an adult bookstore along US 301, trying to keep the "Cafe Risque" from opening its doors on time.

2006: A man who told police he made a pipe bomb to attack an abortion clinic was arrested Thursday, shortly before the device went off in a friend's home while authorities tried to disable it, according to court documents. ... Weiler faces four federal counts including making a destructive device and possessing an illegal handgun. He was being held Thursday. Phone messages left at Weiler's home were not returned. A car in the driveway had a frame around the front license plate that read "Choose Life" and "God is pro-Life."

Christian Terrorist Cells in the USA - Commonplace Book

The link above even sources them to local news organizations. One sadly has a broken link, though.

Enjoy the list!

To say that ALL of these acted on behalf of their religion is disingenuous.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

I think he was saying the same thing we are. That it's ridiculous to suggest that Christians are as violent as Muslims. Not that it's ridiculous to discuss it.

I see, well I understand that Christians have done their share of commiting violent acts, but not near the amount or to the degree than those of Islamic faith. Seriously if you hear of a terrorist attack, any rational person would immediately assume it was an Islamic extremist.

That's why Muslim Americans were detained right after the Oklahoma City bombing.

Were muslim Americans detained right after 9/11?

 

[sangha]

I see, well I understand that Christians have done their share of commiting violent acts, but not near the amount or to the degree than those of Islamic faith. Seriously if you hear of a terrorist attack, any rational person would immediately assume it was an Islamic extremist.

That's why Muslim Americans were detained right after the Oklahoma City bombing.

Were muslim Americans detained right after 9/11?

No because bush flew the Saudi royal family out of the US in order to protect those terrorists

 

[ConHog]

That's why Muslim Americans were detained right after the Oklahoma City bombing.

Were muslim Americans detained right after 9/11?

No because bush flew the Saudi royal family out of the US in order to protect those terrorists

Ah the noted moron tactic of bringing Booosh into any argument in which you have failed. Which is essentially every argument you enter.

 

[sangha]

Were muslim Americans detained right after 9/11?

No because bush flew the Saudi royal family out of the US in order to protect those terrorists

Ah the noted moron tactic of bringing Booosh into any argument in which you have failed. Which is essentially every argument you enter.

He asked what happened right after 9/11 and you think I brought up bush?

 

[Woyzeck]

I asked for a list and I get ONE example.

What part of LIST do you not understand?

Allow me to help:

2001: According to the Feminist Majority Foundation in Arlington, Virginia, Over 170 abortion clinics and doctors' offices in 14 states and the District of Columbia received threatening letters claiming to contain anthrax. The envelopes had return addresses from the U.S. Secret Service and U.S. Marshall Service with postmarks from Atlanta, GA; Knoxville, TN; Chattanooga, TN; or Columbus, OH. The envelopes were also marked, "TIME SENSITIVE: Urgent Security Notice Enclosed." When opened by clinic staff, all letters contained a white powder with a letter stating, "You have been exposed to anthrax. We are going to kill all of you. Army of God, Virginia DARE Chapter."

2003: A nurse has been charged with firing a shotgun at an abortion clinic in Asheville before it opened on Thursday, according to police. Brenda Kaye Phillips, 44, a registered nurse, was charged a misdemeanor count of damage to property for shooting at the Femcare Women's Clinic. The same clinic was the target of bomb four years ago.

2003: Klan leader David Wayne Hull was arrested at his Washington County, Pennsylvania, home on February 13 for allegedly planning to blow up an abortion clinic. Federal prosecutors charged Hull, a forty-year-old Imperial Wizard of the White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, a small Pennsylvania-based group, with receiving, manufacturing, possessing and transferring a destructive device in violation of the National Firearms Act. At a preliminary hearing in U.S. District Court in Pittsburgh on February 18, prosecutors accused Hull of trying to buy hand grenades from a witness cooperating with the FBI. According to an unsealed criminal complaint, Hull told the informant he was "going to blow up abortion clinics." Authorities say that Hull told the informant he made his car a "suicide bomb on wheels." In July 2002, Hull attended the "Aryan Nations World Congress," convened by the Pennsylvania faction of the neo-Nazi Aryan Nations. He is also a follower of Christian Identity, a racist and anti-Semitic sect whose adherents believe that white people are God's chosen people, descended from the lost tribes of ancient Israel, and that minorities are soulless "mud peoples."

2004: A man who was accused of plotting to firebomb abortion clinics, churches, and gay bars was sentenced yesterday to five years in federal prison. Stephen John Jordi, 36, pleaded guilty in February to a single charge of attempted arson of an abortion clinic. Prosecutors had asked Judge James Cohn to sentence Jordi under a federal terrorism law and sought seven to 10 years. Cohn refused, saying federal sentencing rules require that plots have an international component to be considered terrorism. "This crime was strictly domestic and in no way transcended national boundaries," Cohn said. Jordi and a government informant bought gasoline cans, flares, starter fluid, and propane tanks the day he was arrested last November after casing several South Florida abortion clinics and talking about bombing one in Macon, Ga., according to the FBI. Prosecutor John Schlesinger said he "respectfully disagreed" with the judge's decision not to sentence Jordi as a terrorist.

2005: A 24-year-old Shreveport woman and her 18-year-old boyfriend have been charged with attempting to bomb an abortion clinic. Authorities say Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe were arrested and booked into City Jail. Hughes was charged with manufacturing and possession of a delayed incendiary device. Dunahoe was charged as an accessory. Hope Medical Group for Women wasn't damaged when someone tossed a Molotov cocktail at it about 10:45 the night of December 12th.

2005: A suspicious fire damaged an abortion clinic, and federal agents launched an investigation, authorities said Tuesday. The FBI and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives joined local authorities in the investigation of the blaze late Monday at the Presidential Women's Clinic. No one was injured. Details on the extent of damage were not immediately available. It appeared that lighter fluid or some other accelerant was used to start the blaze, fire department spokesman Phil Kaplan said. A July 2004 fire damaged another Palm Beach County abortion clinic and a 2003 blaze damaged one in neighboring Broward County.

2006: Evidence teams plan to put on protective gear and seal the room as they search for any clues left behind on a contraption that investigators are calling a "weapon of mass destruction." Technicians will be looking for fingerprints and any other evidence that may have been left on the device, which was pumping a mix of water and a caustic chemical into a sex shop when neighbors found it Sunday morning, detectives said. The evidence crew will be breathing the air inside the room, but won't have any unprotected contact with the plastic jugs, duct tape, and hoses that make up the device. In Waldo, people have held prayer vigils and protests aimed at an adult bookstore along US 301, trying to keep the "Cafe Risque" from opening its doors on time.

2006: A man who told police he made a pipe bomb to attack an abortion clinic was arrested Thursday, shortly before the device went off in a friend's home while authorities tried to disable it, according to court documents. ... Weiler faces four federal counts including making a destructive device and possessing an illegal handgun. He was being held Thursday. Phone messages left at Weiler's home were not returned. A car in the driveway had a frame around the front license plate that read "Choose Life" and "God is pro-Life."

Christian Terrorist Cells in the USA - Commonplace Book

The link above even sources them to local news organizations. One sadly has a broken link, though.

Enjoy the list!

To say that ALL of these acted on behalf of their religion is disingenuous.

Until someone else can prove otherwise. At the very least, an awful lot on the list are big believers in Christianity.

Plus, there's a good amount of hate groups in the country, and a lot of them like to tie themselves to Christianity.

Groups | Southern Poverty Law Center

I still maintain terrorists have used pretty much every major religion, creed or ideology to support their acts, and that having one religion better or less extremist than another is stupid.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

So now you're implying that Christians are trying " to tear people limb from limb simply because they follow a different religion"?

Show me a list of Christian terrorist attacks.

Nigerian atheist attacked by a mob of Christians at a child witchcraft conference

Im calling bullshit on this bogus blog report.
Any gathering of atheist Christians or combination of the two would result in a massacre by the muslims .
Attack on Nigerian town kills hundreds - CNN.com

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Until someone else can prove otherwise. At the very least, an awful lot on the list are big believers in Christianity.

Plus, there's a good amount of hate groups in the country, and a lot of them like to tie themselves to Christianity.

Groups | Southern Poverty Law Center

I still maintain terrorists have used pretty much every major religion, creed or ideology to support their acts, and that having one religion better or less extremist than another is stupid.

Why doesnt the SPLC list any Islamic hate groups on it watch list?

The Southern Poverty Business Model?By Ken Silverstein (Harper's Magazine)

 

[ConHog]

No because bush flew the Saudi royal family out of the US in order to protect those terrorists

Ah the noted moron tactic of bringing Booosh into any argument in which you have failed. Which is essentially every argument you enter.

He asked what happened right after 9/11 and you think I brought up bush?

Which one of you brought his name into the conversation ding dong