"I will repeal Obamacare" Mitt Romney

[Wry Catcher]

Then what?

See: Snapshots: Health Care Spending in the United States & Selected OECD Countries - Kaiser Family Foundation

The Democrats pushed health care reform for a reason, the cost to individuals, business and government was putting a drag on the economy and individuals stood to lose everything they worked years for when a catastrophic illness or injury occurred.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Then what? Am I the only one curious?

 

[California Girl]

This will scare you.... I've been trying to find an answer to that question for weeks. I'm totally up for repealing ObamaCrap... but I insist that the candidate I support explain what he plans to replace it with.

 

[Wiseacre]

No, you're not the only curious one. If they repeal it or the SCOTUS finds it to be unconstitutional, we gotta come up with something. The status quo isn't going to cut it; for starters I'd allow health insurance companies to offer coverage nation-wide, no more state-controlled arrangements. Maybe limit tort fees and setup an information sharing network that allows physicians and care providers nation-wide access to your medical records if you give them permission.

 

[Valerie]

Romney's Healthcare Fix

For more information, click here to visit Mitt Romney Central's health care page.
RomneyCare – The Truth about Massachusetts Health Care | Mitt Romney Central


Romney states that there is no easy fix for America's healthcare crisis. The healthcare crisis is so complicated and enormous, that there is no one simple change, or "magic bullet," that is going to easily solve our healthcare problem.

Romney states that "given the magnitude of the healthcare crisis America faces, small measures simply will not get the job done." What is needed is a fundamental restructuring of the healthcare market.

Unlike many Democrats, Romney believes in free market solutions to solve this problem. A government takeover of healthcare or more regulations of the healthcare industry will be counterproductive and inefficient.

Here is a list of items Romney discusses in a recent speech and in his book, No Apology, that will help ameliorate America's healthcare crisis:

Mitt Romney and Healthcare: Romney's Healthcare Fix

Mitt Romney health care presentation - The Washington Post

 

[Valerie]

Romneycare Vs. Obamacare


For a more detailed summary, click here to visit Mitt Romney Central's health care page.
RomneyCare – The Truth about Massachusetts Health Care | Mitt Romney Central


A recent article in The New Yorker magazine states that "Romney had accomplished a longstanding Democratic goal - universal health insurance - by combining three conservative policies." In other words, Romney had beaten Democrats at their own goal of providing universal health insurance. But Romney's novel approach accomplished this goal not with a government takeover, but with conservative principles. The success of Romney's healthcare law led many Democrats to consider adopting a similar approach to achieving universal health insurance.

The article goes on to say that in 2006 when Romneycare was passed, "most conservatives praised Romney's plan." The Bush administration sent a letter praising the passage of the new law. An often overlooked fact is that without the support of the Bush administration, Romney's healthcare law never would have become a reality.

The Boston Globe editorial board recently published an article defending Romneycare on conservative grounds. The editorial board states "the role Romney played on the state level was skillful, creative, and business friendly. Romney was a governor sensitive to business concerns and worried about the state's business climate."

Mitt Romney and Healthcare: Romneycare Vs. Obamacare

 

[Wiseacre]

Romney's Healthcare Fix

For more information, click here to visit Mitt Romney Central's health care page.
RomneyCare – The Truth about Massachusetts Health Care | Mitt Romney Central


Romney states that there is no easy fix for America's healthcare crisis. The healthcare crisis is so complicated and enormous, that there is no one simple change, or "magic bullet," that is going to easily solve our healthcare problem.

Romney states that "given the magnitude of the healthcare crisis America faces, small measures simply will not get the job done." What is needed is a fundamental restructuring of the healthcare market.

Unlike many Democrats, Romney believes in free market solutions to solve this problem. A government takeover of healthcare or more regulations of the healthcare industry will be counterproductive and inefficient.

Here is a list of items Romney discusses in a recent speech and in his book, No Apology, that will help ameliorate America's healthcare crisis:

Mitt Romney and Healthcare: Romney's Healthcare Fix

Mitt Romney health care presentation - The Washington Post

Mostly good stuff IMHO.

 

[Valerie]

What are the key differences between RomneyCare and ObamaCare?

It is often asserted that RomneyCare is the same thing as ObamaCare, but this is simply not true. While there are similarities, there are also key differences. Below is a table of differences between the Romney plan and the Obama plan.

RomneyCare – The Truth about Massachusetts Health Care | Mitt Romney Central

 

[California Girl]

Romneycare Vs. Obamacare


For a more detailed summary, click here to visit Mitt Romney Central's health care page.
RomneyCare – The Truth about Massachusetts Health Care | Mitt Romney Central


A recent article in The New Yorker magazine states that "Romney had accomplished a longstanding Democratic goal - universal health insurance - by combining three conservative policies." In other words, Romney had beaten Democrats at their own goal of providing universal health insurance. But Romney's novel approach accomplished this goal not with a government takeover, but with conservative principles. The success of Romney's healthcare law led many Democrats to consider adopting a similar approach to achieving universal health insurance.

The article goes on to say that in 2006 when Romneycare was passed, "most conservatives praised Romney's plan." The Bush administration sent a letter praising the passage of the new law. An often overlooked fact is that without the support of the Bush administration, Romney's healthcare law never would have become a reality.

The Boston Globe editorial board recently published an article defending Romneycare on conservative grounds. The editorial board states "the role Romney played on the state level was skillful, creative, and business friendly. Romney was a governor sensitive to business concerns and worried about the state's business climate."

Mitt Romney and Healthcare: Romneycare Vs. Obamacare

Thanks for that. Very helpful.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Then what?

False premise, that to repeal Obamacare, you must have something to replace it.

 

[Nova78]

Glad to here it, Obama is money wasting socialist dictator, He has ruined this country.

 

[Katzndogz]

This will scare you.... I've been trying to find an answer to that question for weeks. I'm totally up for repealing ObamaCrap... but I insist that the candidate I support explain what he plans to replace it with.

Why replace it with anything? It's not like we've had obamacare for so long that we are all dependent on it.

 

[Greenbeard]

What are the key differences between RomneyCare and ObamaCare?

It is often asserted that RomneyCare is the same thing as ObamaCare, but this is simply not true. While there are similarities, there are also key differences. Below is a table of differences between the Romney plan and the Obama plan.

RomneyCare – The Truth about Massachusetts Health Care | Mitt Romney Central

This is a truly bizarre bit of cognitive dissonance.

RomneyCare is nothing like socialized medicine or a government takeover. In fact, Romneycare empowers and strengthens the private market by requiring people to purchase health insurance plans from private insurance companies, and there is no government plan or public option. It is significant to note that nearly all major private insurance companies and hospitals supported Gov. Romney’s healthcare bill in 2006. Also, according to FactCheck.org, some of the most strident critics of Romney’s plan are the groups that support socialized medicine.

It is intriguing that Reagan himself was considering a plan where the government subsidizes the premiums for citizens to buy private health insurance. That is RomneyCare at its core; help those who cannot buy insurance by having the government pay all or part of their premiums, thus encouraging people to use private health insurance companies and not government health insurance. I find the two plans remarkably similar. Would Reagan have liked every aspect of RomneyCare? Probably not (and neither did Romney), but the core of RomneyCare, where the government helps citizens buy private insurance by paying for their premiums, is undoubtedly something Reagan would have been very supportive of.

Unlike many Democrats, Romney believes in free market solutions to solve this problem. A government takeover of healthcare or more regulations of the healthcare industry will be counterproductive and inefficient.

 

[rightwinger]

What ever happened to repeal and replace?

Republicans are advocating repeal and go fuck yourself

 

[California Girl]

What ever happened to repeal and replace?

Republicans are advocating repeal and go fuck yourself

As always, you never let the truth get in the way of your ranting bullshit.

 

[rightwinger]

What ever happened to repeal and replace?

Republicans are advocating repeal and go fuck yourself

As always, you never let the truth get in the way of your ranting bullshit.

I have history on my side

In the 90s, Republicans squashed Clintons Healthcare with the promise they would come up with something better. Once they got control of Congress and the White House, guess what they gave us?

Nothing

 

[Greenbeard]

Romney isn't going to repeal anything. He knows he wouldn't have the votes and he (presumably) knows that the waivers he's proposing to offer states are well-defined in the law, meaning the leeway for the executive branch to decide when to award them is severely limited.

Moreover, it's pretty clear from his own history and his PowerPoint explaining what he wants to see that he isn't particularly opposed to the ACA ideologically.

As for a simple repeal of the ACA, even some of the fiercest GOP critics are pointing out that logistically a straight-up repeal with no replacement legislation is a bad idea.

Republicans - including Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.) - have been calling for the law's repeal ever since it was passed. In his opening statement at a hearing on the Health and Human Services Department's proposed budget for FY 2013, Shelby said lawmakers should start taking a hard look at how they can mitigate some of the impacts of repealing the law as the Supreme Court this month prepares to hear hours of arguments for why it should strike it down.

"The administration has used the Affordable Care Act's mandatory spending, which is not subject to a vote by Congress every year, to backfill key discretionary programs," Shelby said in his opening remarks.

"The administration then diverts discretionary dollars to fund new programs. When the Affordable Care Act is repealed, many important programs like Community Health Centers and the [federal] Immunization program at the Centers for Disease Control will be in jeopardy because their base funding … has been so significantly reduced."

 

[California Girl]

What ever happened to repeal and replace?

Republicans are advocating repeal and go fuck yourself

As always, you never let the truth get in the way of your ranting bullshit.

I have history on my side

In the 90s, Republicans squashed Clintons Healthcare with the promise they would come up with something better. Once they got control of Congress and the White House, guess what they gave us?

Nothing

Historically, so have the Democrats.... until Obama decided to use healthcare as a way to push a socialist agenda onto the country.

I'm bored with your constant lying about what Republicans 'advocate'. Pathetic fear mongering... it's embarrassing.

 

[Greenbeard]

I have history on my side

In the 90s, Republicans squashed Clintons Healthcare with the promise they would come up with something better. Once they got control of Congress and the White House, guess what they gave us?

Nothing

Historically, so have the Democrats.... until Obama decided to use healthcare as a way to push a socialist agenda onto the country.

Actual (abridged) history of Democrats' attempts at health reform:

• Harry Truman proposes national health insurance in 1945. Five years of bitter debate later, the Wagner-Murray-Dingell legislation is finally killed for good by its opponents.
• With scaled back ambitions, Democrats pass Kerr-Mills in 1960. This is a precursor and hybridization of what we would today recognize as Medicare and Medicaid.
• Recognizing the weakness of Kerr-Mills, the first Democratic president since Truman pushes legislation creating what would come to be known as Medicare. The key opponent in the fights of the late 1940s, the AMA, enlists Ronald Reagan in its "Operation Coffee Cup" campaign to again shoot down reform. When this legislation is defeated in 1962, Kennedy blames Republicans and a "handful" of defecting Democrats and asks the public for a better Congress after the mid-terms: "I hope that we will return in November a Congress that will support a program like Medical Care for the Aged, a program which has been fought by the American Medical Association and successfully defeated."
• Three years later, his successor enjoys a rare pivotal success. Harry Truman soon becomes the first Medicare beneficiary.

• Recognizing the need to build upon the victories won in insuring the elderly and some of the indigent, Democrats resurrect the notion of universal coverage.
  Infighting between the leading liberal legislator and a centrist Democratic president derail progress. This conflict would boil over in the 1980 presidential primaries.
  

  1977: Carter, concerned about the strength of the economy, moves away from national health insurance and proposes measures to contain expenses, such as hospital cost control. This prompts Kennedy in May at a United Auto Workers conference to lambast Carter for not setting a timetable to establish his health insurance program – a promise Carter made on the campaign trail. "Health reform is in danger of becoming the missing promise in the administration’s plans," Kennedy says.
  
  1979: In March, Carter proposes phasing in a national health program, which he says will cost $10 billion to $15 billion, beginning in 1983. Kennedy quickly opposes the plan, calling Carter’s approach to health reform "piecemeal." The administration shoots back that Kennedy's proposal for a complete national health plan is too expensive. Kennedy later credits this disagreement as one of the influences on his decision to challenge Carter for the Democratic nomination for the president in 1980.

• The next Democratic president again spends considerable political capital on a comprehensive health reform proposal but again loses the legislative and public relations battle. A strong economy, slowing health care cost growth due to widespread managed care in the late '90s, and a GOP Congress removes the immediate need and possibility for Clinton to try again. In the early 2000s, costs begin to grow again. The most ambitious state-level attempt to expand coverage during this period, a major shift toward universal coverage in Massachusetts, garners national attention and provides a template for future coverage expansions. At the same time, the cost control lessons learned during the 1990s and new possibilities created for the first time by the prospect of widespread use of health information technology reshapes the debate. These changes finally offer the prospect for the first time of not just expanding coverage, but tackling rising costs by reforming the way care is paid for and delivered.
• Coverage, payment and health care delivery systems reforms dominate the 2008 Democratic primary and, ultimately, the general election. After near a year of messy public debate in Congress, comprehensive reform is passed. Success.

 

[Valerie]

Give Tax Deductions to Individuals Who Don't Have Access to Employer Health Insurance - Romney believes that individuals should be able to have the same tax advantages as an employer when purchasing health insurance. It isn't fair that an individual be penalized with higher rates for health insurance simply because his/her employer doesn't provide it. Such a penalty dissuades many from buying insurance when it is not offered by their employer. Romney wants to level the playing field. Give consumers a choice of going with their employers plan or purchasing insurance on their own on the open market. Don't lock consumers into one path.

Mitt Romney and Healthcare: Romney's Healthcare Fix