I have three questions pertaining to the $450 million dollar judgment against Trump.

[JLW]

Three for you:
Did you read the indictment, the state rule, and the decision?

Please try and stick with the facts.

63(12): The statute does not require intent to commit fraud or anyone to be harmed by the fraud, and it does not give Trump the inherent right to a jury trial, with legal experts noting to CNN that while civil lawsuits that request monetary damages are entitled to a jury trial, cases seeking other “equitable relief”—meaning penalties that force the defendant to take or refrain from taking some kind of action, rather than just paying money—can be decided by a judge alone, which is more common with 63(12) violations and is the case in this trial.

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The list of Trump's legal losses in New York is already lengthy:

• In December 2022, a Manhattan jury found two Trump Organization companies guilty of 17 felonies related to tax evasion. The company was ordered to pay a $1.6 million fine and the case landed its former CFO behind bars.
• On March 30, 2023, a New York grand jury in Manhattan indicted Trump on 34 felony counts of falsification of business records.
• Five weeks later, a federal jury in New York found Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation in one of two civil lawsuits filed by the writer E. Jean Carroll. Trump was ordered to pay her $5 million.
• In September 2023, a state judge found Trump and his company liable for a decade-long fraud scheme in a pretrial ruling.
• In January, another federal jury found Trump liable for defaming Carroll. The jury awarded her another $83 million.
• On Friday, the judge in the civil fraud case issued his final ruling, saying Trump must pay the state $354 million, plus nearly $100 million in interest.

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Read the full decision in Trump's New York civil fraud case​

Read the full decision in Trump's New York civil fraud case

The judge's ruling orders former President Donald Trump and his company to pay $354 million in fines, plus almost $100 million in interest, and restricts Trump's business activities in the state.

www.cbsnews.com

I don't think there is a single MAGA poster on this board who read the decision. The decision was comprehensive and dealt with all the issues involved. Of course, it does require that you care about the judge's rationale as opposed to spouting off inanity based on your biases and ignorance.

 

[DGS49]

Question: When all of the bullshit cases are overturned on appeal - they are brought in bullshit jurisdictions to ensure trial level convictions - will you Leftist bastards admit that Trump was right all along?

Answer: No. You will just claim that the appeals courts were corrupt.

So what is the point of engaging?

None.

 

[BackAgain]

Question 1. Where was the proof that the State of New York suffered any monetary damages from the alleged fraud as required in a civil fraud suit?

There were no damages. The judge is a hack.

Question 2. If the banks were defrauded by Trump's valuations, how did they MAKE MONEY from the transactions?

The judge determined that it wasn’t relevant (or material) that the banks lost not one red cent.

Question 3. Why did the judge decide to nearly DOUBLE the $250 Million dollar civil fraud suit filed by Letitia James on behalf of New York?

The hack AG made a late in the game application to “up” the amount she was seeking. The judge — of course —rubber stamped it.

 

[BackAgain]

I don't think there is a single MAGA poster on this board who read the decision. The decision was comprehensive and dealt with all the issues involved. Of course, it does require that you care about the judge's rationale as opposed to spouting off inanity based on your biases and ignorance.

Comprehensive decisions may address all the points. But that’s not the question.

The question is whether he ruled correctly, you hack.

 

[Crepitus]

Question 1. Where was the proof that the State of New York suffered any monetary damages from the alleged fraud as required in a civil fraud suit?
Question 2. If the banks were defrauded by Trump's valuations, how did they MAKE MONEY from the transactions?
Question 3. Why did the judge decide to nearly DOUBLE the $250 Million dollar civil fraud suit filed by Letitia James on behalf of New York?

1. Ask the jury.

2. ask the jury.

3. because it was such an egregious violation with no hint of remorse.

 

[Crepitus]

Conservatives must be buying this stuff by the case

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

And as such the law has been weaponized against Trump because...

calling bullshit

yet again

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Question: When all of the bullshit cases are overturned on appeal...

This is most definitely a keep post

 

[JLW]

Comprehensive decisions may address all the points. But that’s not the question.

The question is whether he ruled correctly, you hack.

Wrong you idiot, he asked some basic questions about the case itself. His answers are in the opinion. He can take issue with the Court's opinion obviously, but that was not the subject of his OP.

 

[BackAgain]

Wrong you idiot, he asked some basic questions about the case itself. His answers are in the opinion. He can take issue with the Court's opinion obviously, but that was not the subject of his OP.

Wrong again, you abject imbecile.

You defended the court by citing the very decision rendered by the judge.

While there are indeed some facets of the law which are validly referenced by Engmoron, those don’t justify either his pre-determined verdict or the “damages” he awarded.

Just because a chump like you doesn’t like an answer doesn’t make it an incorrect answer, you dope.

 

[JLW]

Wrong again, you abject imbecile.

You defended the court by citing the very decision rendered by the judge.

While there are indeed some facets of the law which are validly referenced by Engmoron, those don’t justify either his pre-determined verdict or the “damages” he awarded.

Just because a chump like you doesn’t like an answer doesn’t make it an incorrect answer, you dope.

Yes, in the judge's opinion there are some answers to the OP questions. Thank you for agreeing with me.

 

[BackAgain]

Yes, in the judge's opinion there are some answers to the OP questions. Thank you for agreeing with me.

Yes. In the judge’s erroneous opinion, he did provide some “answers.”

Sadly, for the most part, they were legally nonsensical.

 

[MarathonMike]

Yes. In the judge’s erroneous opinion, he did provide some “answers.”

Sadly, for the most part, they were legally nonsensical.

If we had a truly impartial justice system, this case would have been thrown out after a 5 minute review. It flies in the face of what a civil fraud case is supposed to remedy. Destroying a political opponent is not a valid reason for bringing a civil fraud case.

 

[BackAgain]

If we had a truly impartial justice system, this case would have been thrown out after a 5 minute review. It flies in the face of what a civil fraud case is supposed to remedy. Destroying a political opponent is not a valid reason for bringing a civil fraud case.

Part of the problem is that the NY State Executive Law was apparently drafted to get around the impediments the law imposes on plaintiff’s in fraud cases. You know, all those usual elements — like pleading and proving damages and so forth. It is indeed difficult to prove that anybody was “victimized” by any erroneous business record entry (intentional or not) when no victim has complained about it.

Accordingly, NY does have a case law history of interpreting the scope of that law in a big broad way. Fuck the fact that it is massively unfair to the defendants in such cases. The STATE of NY wants to have its AG granted such broad and unfair advantages (supposedly on behalf of the “little guy”).

The time may now be right for a higher court to finally rein in such excesses.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

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The only answer is, President Trump is never going to pay a dime.

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[BackAgain]

Conservatives must be buying this stuff by the case

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Zzz

Nah. You libturds are the ones who need it.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Zzz

Nah. You libturds are the ones who need it.

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Right on the money. I don't need it..

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[Crepitus]

Zzz

Nah. You libturds are the ones who need it.

Read the thread to see how wrong you are.

 

[BackAgain]

Read the thread to see how wrong you are.

Comprehend what you read (someday) to see if can ever catch up to how flatulent, fraudulent and phony you are.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzz, NY state like California is doing just fine.

Now back to FOX News

California is doing just fine? Not according to people in California.