Zone1 I believe God is punishing the US

[Frankenstein]

I really don't care what any of you people think about me because you have no clue about me. This is an anonymous message board and some of you even have multiple sock puppets here.

I think what really is your problem is that people are realizing they don't need your god and your Iron Age philosophies anymore.

Well I am quite sure that is what you think, but you long for the positive comments from fellow progressive God haters, you desire them like gold!

 

[Frankenstein]

It was an either/or question. "Yes" is not the answer.

Sure it is you just don't like the answer!

 

[Blues Man]

Well I am quite sure that is what you think, but you long for the positive comments from fellow progressive God haters, you desire them like gold!

Funny I have all those notifications on responses to my posts turned off.

IDGAF if you thumbs up or thumbs down a post.

And I don't hate anyone and it's impossible to hate a god that is just a human IDEA. Hate is the specialty of the religious zealot

 

[Crick]

Sure it is you just don't like the answer!

No, it is not a valid answer which is why I do not like it.

If god is punishing the United States as a whole, aren't US citizens that have committed no sin at all being punished for the sins of others? What happened to that personal god?

 

[ding]

Hate is the specialty of the religious zealot

Says the guy who said religion is detrimental and a blight on humanity. Why wouldn't you hate something that was detrimental and a blight on humanity? I hate socialism for those same reasons.

 

[ding]

No, it is not a valid answer which is why I do not like it.

Seems like he was answering yes to both questions. So how would that not be a valid answer? It really wasn't an either or question. It could be both.

 

[ding]

If god is punishing the United States as a whole, aren't US citizens that have committed no sin at all being punished for the sins of others?

In my mind God doesn't need to punish us as the predictable surprises of deviating from standards does that all by itself. So God isn't punishing anyone. He allows us free will which includes allowing us to suffer the consequences of our actions and behaviors, good and bad.

The sun shines on the just and unjust just as the rain falls on the just and the unjust. That's just life.

 

[ding]

What happened to that personal god?

He's still there. You've just never figured out how to access the power of that relationship.

 

[Blues Man]

No, it is not a valid answer which is why I do not like it.

If god is punishing the United States as a whole, aren't US citizens that have committed no sin at all being punished for the sins of others? What happened to that personal god?

The whole basis of Christianity is telling people they carry sin that isn't theirs

 

[Crick]

The whole basis of Christianity is telling people they carry sin that isn't theirs

By the logic of two millennia past, originial sin is an inheritable trait. The sin of others is not else there'd be no point in telling anyone not to sin. A single sinner would condemn the entire species.

Look at Sodom and Gomorrah. God sends Abraham to find an innocent soul in the city of Sodom and doesn't destroy the city until he has failed that task. That would clearly seem to refute the OP.

 

[Blues Man]

By the logic of two millennia past, originial sin is an inheritable trait. The sin of others is not else there'd be no point in telling anyone not to sin. A single sinner would condemn the entire species.

What is original sin if not the sins of others?

 

[Crick]

What is original sin if not the sins of others?

It is the sin of our parents.

 

[Frankenstein]

No, it is not a valid answer which is why I do not like it.

If god is punishing the United States as a whole, aren't US citizens that have committed no sin at all being punished for the sins of others? What happened to that personal god

The whole basis of Christianity is telling people they carry sin that isn't theirs

Negative

 

[Frankenstein]

No, it is not a valid answer which is why I do not like it.

If god is punishing the United States as a whole, aren't US citizens that have committed no sin at all being punished for the sins of others? What happened to that personal god?

You reap what you sow, and can be punished without me being punished! As a nation we can be punished without it affecting me

 

[Donald H]

In my mind God doesn't need to punish us as the predictable surprises of deviating from standards does that all by itself. So God isn't punishing anyone. He allows us free will which includes allowing us to suffer the consequences of our actions and behaviors, good and bad.

The sun shines on the just and unjust just as the rain falls on the just and the unjust. That's just life.

I'll second that! You're telling people to behave as they damn well like and there will be no consequences sent by the god, at least.
We know that could only be true in the supernatural world. Back on earth, bad behaviour generally gets you in a lot of trouble.

 

[1miseryindex]

No, it is not a valid answer which is why I do not like it.

If god is punishing the United States as a whole, aren't US citizens that have committed no sin at all being punished for the sins of others? What happened to that personal god?

God was going to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah but Abraham interceded and asked God "Would u destroy it if there were 10 good people there?"

long story short: God said No he would not destroy if there was 10... or maybe it was one? (can't recall) good person there.

So we know there were NO righteous peole there bc he destroyed those cities

 

[1miseryindex]

You're telling people to behave as they damn well like and there will be no consequences sent by the god, at least.

I don't recall Ding saying anything like it

but hey... we know what you libs are like.... always fantasizing and making up stuff

 

[1miseryindex]

You reap what you sow, and can be punished without me being punished! As a nation we can be punished without it affecting me

no, when our country suffers EVERYONE suffers

look at the inflation.. the border

All the consequences of those hideous decisions/policies are affecting every one of us. The innocent do have to suffer w/ the guilty

not that anyone is perfectly innocent of course...

 

[Donald H]

God was going to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah but Abraham interceded and asked God "Would u destroy it if there were 10 good people there?"

long story short: God said No he would not destroy if there was 10... or maybe it was one? (can't recall) good person there.

So we know there were NO righteous peole there bc he destroyed those cities

Even the unborn fetuses were evil in the god's eyes!

Never mind the 1 and 2 year olds that were walking around with unclean thoughts!

 

[1miseryindex]

Even the unborn fetuses were evil in the god's eyes!

Never mind the 1 and 2 year olds that were walking around with unclean thoughts!

I don't know if children died in those cities.

But if they did,

God knows what he is doing. If you think i myself have always liked his decisions vis a vis yours truly, you can definitely think again

But God is not like us. We are sinners. He is not