ChrisL
Diamond Member
We all know what happens when the government takes control. It creates a lot of red tape, waste, and politics. Without enough people working to pay taxes to support such a system, it would collapse too. The amount of money we spend on medical care is through the roof!
You've created a problem in you mind, now, create a solution. Red tape is a dysphemism for regulations and waste is a product of too many law suits, fraud, unnecessary tests and procedures and the opposition of those who pay lobbyists to protect their golden goose; all fixable if men and women of good will want a solution and if the process is open to the public.
I didn't create a problem in my mind. That is usually what happens. Take a look at the VA???
I have. I have Kaiser, a pretty good experience for me and our family; both of my kids have Kaiser via the Temster's Union. But, my 93 yo dad had health care from his work as an officer of the Court, and gets better, faster and less costly care at the VA Clinic in SF. He has hearing loss as many combat vets understand, and before going to the VA he got some hearing aids from CostCo and before that from his employer subsidized health care. Neither worked very well and he spent a total of $8.000 for dysfunctional devices.
Then he went to the VA. HA's were molded for his ears, he was tested for over an hour by a doctor and spent another couple of hours with an intern learning how to clean them, put them in and replace the batteries. This all at the Fort Miley Clinic in San Francisco.
BTW, he never waited more than 5 minutes passed his appointment time, and the one time they were 5 minutes late the clerk advised us at the appointment time that the Doctor was running a little late.
The cost? $15 dollars, the VA and his employee health insurance paid what ever else was billed. As the Doc told him, he paid for her service by his service.
One again, if you continue to echo the current RW / Republican's meme(s) you will lose all credibility.
307,000 vets may have died awaiting VA care, report says - CNNPolitics.com
(CNN)Hundreds of thousands of veterans listed in the Department of Veterans Affairs enrollment system died before their applications for care were processed, according to a report issued Wednesday.
The VA's inspector general found that out of about 800,000 records stalled in the agency's system for managing health care enrollment, there were more than 307,000 records that belonged to veterans who had died months or years in the past. The inspector general said due to limitations in the system's data, the number of records did not necessarily represent veterans actively seeking enrollment in VA health care.
In a response to a request by the House Committee on Veterans Affairs' to investigate a whistleblower's allegations of mismanagement at the VA's Health Eligibility Center, the inspector general also found VA staffers incorrectly marked unprocessed applications and may have deleted 10,000 or more records in the last five years.
In one case, a veteran who applied for VA care in 1998 was placed in "pending" status for 14 years. Another veteran who passed away in 1988 was found to have an unprocessed record lingering in 2014, the investigation found.
For more than a year, CNN investigated and reported on veterans' deaths and delays at VA facilities across the country, including detailed investigations in November 2013 and January 2014 examining deaths at two VA facilities in South Carolina and Georgia.
Did you read the link you posted? Read it carefully and critically, My dad never applied for VA benefits until I suggested he do so this year. He was discharged in November 1945 as were many WW II vets and used the GI Bill to go to school.
He went to work in the Court System in SF and had health insurance as a benefit, never thinking about using the VA until I brought it up.
But the meme is government is no good, and the private sector is the second coming of Christ, so I won't bother you and others who simply echo the meme. It's unfortunate that people like you vote, it's how we got into the mess we are in today & that mess has many fathers, though the current meme promulgated by the Ministry of Truth is that Obama is at fault and G. W. Bush was a near great leader. Puke.
I never said any of these things, so I think you must be addressing someone else. Lol. if you want to talk to me about what I've actually said and about my claims about the VA system in GENERAL and not your anecdotes, then we can do that.