How's That Hope n Change Working Out?

You forget that the bill he was talking about at the time was bigger than the one that got passed.

They trimmed it down to please the Rs who still capped on it and then posed for photo shots handing out big checks.

Oh, so the logic is had they just spent MORE.... The liberal answer to everything.. SPEND MORE. You libs must be the dipshits I keep reading about who can't make their mortgage payments so they run up $20,000 in cc debt. Guess this explains CA, MI, PA, NY, etc.
What asshats.

History shows that spending in a recession improves the economy.

You see when money enters the economy it doesnt first check to see where the money comes from.

Really? How's that working so far? Empirically speaking, Bush cut taxes, we had the shortest recession in history. Obama spent TONS OF money, we've been in a near depression for a year.
 
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Seems kinda funny that 47% of that 95% don't pay taxes yet got a rebate.

Kinda Funny how that math works doncha know??

They pay other taxes besides income.

They also dont have a living wage.

Living wage? WTF is that? Spending welfare tax rebates and government subsidies on sales taxes is not paying taxes. Paying taxes comes when it comes from the money one earns.
 
Which totally belies the "95% of Americans got a tax cut" mantra.

Correct?

Yes.

Those who don't make enough money to be required to pay income tax got what's basically called, "welfare" not a "tax cut."

Not right.

You got the difference between the amount of the rebate minus the percentage of tax you pay on it the next year as a tax cut.
Wrong.

The tables stayed the same, therefore you STILL owe the same in taxes. There is NO cut.

Millions of people are finding this out, as they do their taxes.

You only pay a % tax on the rebate not give the entire thing back.
 
Lets forget the republican pushed TARP?
Or the Bush tax rebates?

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The American people are making billions of off TARP.

Can't say the same for the Obama Democrats $800 billion porkulus bill...
 
Seems kinda funny that 47% of that 95% don't pay taxes yet got a rebate.

Kinda Funny how that math works doncha know??

They pay other taxes besides income.

They also dont have a living wage.

Living wage? WTF is that? Spending welfare tax rebates and government subsidies on sales taxes is not paying taxes. Paying taxes comes when it comes from the money one earns.

It means paying people enough for 40 hours of work for them to buy everything they need to live in a given society.

It means honoring the work people do buy making it pay enough to live on.
 
Lets forget the republican pushed TARP?
Or the Bush tax rebates?

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The American people are making billions of off TARP.

Can't say the same for the Obama Democrats $800 billion porkulus bill...

Ahh the big 6 banks have paid back their money plus some, but the entire story has not been told yet.
Do not count your TARPs before they are folded and stored away.
 
They pay other taxes besides income.

They also dont have a living wage.

Living wage? WTF is that? Spending welfare tax rebates and government subsidies on sales taxes is not paying taxes. Paying taxes comes when it comes from the money one earns.

It means paying people enough for 40 hours of work for them to buy everything they need to live in a given society.

It means honoring the work people do buy making it pay enough to live on.
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That is among the stupidest responses yet posted in this forum.

And who praytell, determines what each of us "need to live on"?

Back to the kiddie table for you...
 
Lets forget the republican pushed TARP?
Or the Bush tax rebates?

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The American people are making billions of off TARP.

Can't say the same for the Obama Democrats $800 billion porkulus bill...

Ahh the big 6 banks have paid back their money plus some, but the entire story has not been told yet.
Do not count your TARPs before they are folded and stored away.


BILLIONS in interest back to the American people has been made in less than a year.

That is quite a successful program.
 
Living wage? WTF is that? Spending welfare tax rebates and government subsidies on sales taxes is not paying taxes. Paying taxes comes when it comes from the money one earns.

It means paying people enough for 40 hours of work for them to buy everything they need to live in a given society.

It means honoring the work people do buy making it pay enough to live on.
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That is among the stupidest responses yet posted in this forum.

And who praytell, determines what each of us "need to live on"?

Back to the kiddie table for you...

Its pretty fucking easy to determine.

Lodging, food, tranportation, healthcare, clothing and the like.

Are you really this fucking stupid?
 
It means paying people enough for 40 hours of work for them to buy everything they need to live in a given society.

It means honoring the work people do buy making it pay enough to live on.
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That is among the stupidest responses yet posted in this forum.

And who praytell, determines what each of us "need to live on"?

Back to the kiddie table for you...

Its pretty fucking easy to determine.

Lodging, food, tranportation, healthcare, clothing and the like.

Are you really this fucking stupid?
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Ah, but how do you deem adequate lodging? Food? Transportation? Healthcare? Clothing?

Who is responsible for determining those norms for the individual?

You started this slippery slope - and you appear incapable of keeping on your feet...
 
why do you pretend this is some grand mystery?

Its pretty easy to deterime the costs of these things and its done every day.

Quit playing stupid.
 
I love how the messes republicans make dont count to these people.

:lol::lol: Yeah sure, that 787 billion dollar stimulus bill that was passed last Febuary and PROMISED to keep unemployment under 8% isn't working out.. Of course, it's OBAMA'S stimulus plan, I think all of two or three republicans signed onto it and then the dems in the congress and senate all voted for it before they even read it. In that stimulus plan or so-called ( jobs bill) was written in millions in bonuses for the failed AIG exects, thanks extended to Chris Dodd for that little earmark. This so-called stimulus plan was nothing more than a liberal wish list that was stuck in a drawer, brought out, dusted off and passed. The waste and fraud in this bill is starting to come to light, with even CNN on to it and reporting it. This bill was never intended to increase hiring, more money in this bill went to the Arts and Humanities than it did to small business which employs 76% of Americans. The stimulus bill is turning out to be the biggest fraud of this century.

Tomorrow is a big day for the revised unemployment count for the entire year, it will be funny to see how the WH will spin this whopper.Some are expecting it to exceed 800,000 that have not been counted before.

Then on Feb 26th, we get the revised GDP figure which will show a dramatic drop from the phony 5.7 GDP that was just reported. The stock market is not even buying that figure, everyone knows it is all government spending inflating that number with no real growth or output anywhere in the private sector.

A good analogy of GDP- I pay you 100 to dig a hole in my yard, then you pay me 100 to dig a hole in yours and we call it GDP.
 
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That is among the stupidest responses yet posted in this forum.

And who praytell, determines what each of us "need to live on"?

Back to the kiddie table for you...

Its pretty fucking easy to determine.

Lodging, food, tranportation, healthcare, clothing and the like.

Are you really this fucking stupid?
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Ah, but how do you deem adequate lodging? Food? Transportation? Healthcare? Clothing?

Who is responsible for determining those norms for the individual?

You started this slippery slope - and you appear incapable of keeping on your feet...

Easy to determine.. he thinks everyone is owed their personal needs of food, water, shelter, healthcare are not personal responsibility but owed to him and his lazy ass brethren... they cant think enough to determine what they need to make or what they need to do to take care of themselves... they can't advance their skills or he demand for their services, government has to take over that nanny role for them
 
Its pretty fucking easy to determine.

Lodging, food, tranportation, healthcare, clothing and the like.

Are you really this fucking stupid?
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Ah, but how do you deem adequate lodging? Food? Transportation? Healthcare? Clothing?

Who is responsible for determining those norms for the individual?

You started this slippery slope - and you appear incapable of keeping on your feet...

Easy to determine.. he thinks everyone is owed their personal needs of food, water, shelter, healthcare are not personal responsibility but owed to him and his lazy ass brethren... they cant think enough to determine what they need to make or what they need to do to take care of themselves... they can't advance their skills or he demand for their services, government has to take over that nanny role for them
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It does appear he was indicating that the needs of all are the same - that uniformity should come before individuality.

Such a travesty that one blessed to have been born in this nation would harbor such asinine thoughts...
 

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