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Poor Dante....pay no attention to the truth......
Deflect away, I eat people like you for lunch on this topic kid.
This will be fun than grandpa.
Flail away.
If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like you healthcare plan, youll be able to keep your health care plan, period. No one will take it away from you, no matter what.
Show us the context, you won't fare well with the nuts and bolts of the ACA.
Obama said that Obamacare, the context of his speech, would not require people to give up health care insurance that they were happy with.
Why would anyone assume that he was talking for insurance companies? Thats a pretty bizarre assumption.
It's the regulations IN ObamaCare that are REQUIRING insurance companies to drop these people's policies because they don't meet the stipulations of the ACA. How can you not blame ObamaCare for that?
So I ask again...did President Obama LIE repeatedly to get the ACA passed? Yes or no?
You think that outlawing inadequate coverage was bad?
I think that insurance companies flimflaming their customers into buying inadequate coverage is infinitely worse.
The answer to your question is no. You not understanding that his context was Obamacare is, well, pretty....... Let's give you the benefit of the doubt and say unthinking.
How Long Has the PPACA/Obamacare Been in Effect?
From: Is Obamacare In Effect? Is Obamacare in effect?
Tamara Holmes Jul 8 2013 10:20 AM
If you’re unsure whether Obamacare is the law of the land, you’re not alone. An April 2013 Kaiser Family Foundation poll found that 42 percent of Americans don’t know that the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act – the official name for Obamacare – is already impacting health care for millions of Americans.
What is it with people and the website thingie? What is it with people and the multi-part roll out of Obamacare that is so difficult for them to grasp?
Is it the rightwing noise machine, or Obama's shitty public relations team? Why are people so ignorant and confused?
The highly exaggerated cost estimates, the floating numbers of sign ups, and tbe "Obama lies!" Is getting so boring so fast. Darrell Issa better hurry up and invent another crisis before the wet noodlers lose their steam.
What kind of society do we want to live in. That is the deciding factor and increasingly people like [MENTION=31215]Oldstyle[/MENTION] are on the wrong side of society and history.
I may be a Luddite at heart, but some of these fools take themselves way too seriously
We already pay the bills for those people with our taxes with Medicaid (MediCal in California). Makes more sense to put the money out up front that to chase after the problem with money. Also, since the ACA emphasizes preventative care, which is non existent in Medicaid, that alone will save hundreds of thousands of dollars in the long run.
We already pay the bills for those people with our taxes with Medicaid (MediCal in California). Makes more sense to put the money out up front that to chase after the problem with money. Also, since the ACA emphasizes preventative care, which is non existent in Medicaid, that alone will save hundreds of thousands of dollars in the long run.
This will be fun than grandpa.
Flail away.
If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like you healthcare plan, youll be able to keep your health care plan, period. No one will take it away from you, no matter what.
Show us the context, you won't fare well with the nuts and bolts of the ACA.
The context is Obamacare numbnuts, not the private insurance business.
One thing that conservatives have taught us is to never assume that things can be sufficiently dumbed down or simplified. That no matter how carefully government is explained the party of irresponsibility will be confused and hostile, and will go to ridiculous extremes to denigrate the country, the President, our people, our government, and all progress.
Pretty un-American.
Poor Dante....pay no attention to the truth......
You are entitled to your own whack-a-doodle 'truth' but not your own facts.
It's the regulations IN ObamaCare that are REQUIRING insurance companies to drop these people's policies because they don't meet the stipulations of the ACA. How can you not blame ObamaCare for that?
So I ask again...did President Obama LIE repeatedly to get the ACA passed? Yes or no?
You think that outlawing inadequate coverage was bad?
I think that insurance companies flimflaming their customers into buying inadequate coverage is infinitely worse.
The answer to your question is no. You not understanding that his context was Obamacare is, well, pretty....... Let's give you the benefit of the doubt and say unthinking.
So we're just NOW discovering that "inadequate coverage" (as defined by the Obama Administration) won't be allowed? Funny how THAT wasn't mentioned while this law was being sold to the American public!
What the ACA does is eliminate choices for consumers. Don't think you need a plan that covers prenatal and maternity costs because you're 50 years old and had your tubes tied ten years ago? TOUGH! You're getting it whether you need it or not because someone in the GOVERNMENT has decided that's the way it's going to be!
The real "flim flam" took place when Barry, Harry and Nancy sold this crap to the American people in the first place. They knew it was awful legislation. They knew there was ZERO chance of it costing what they SAID it was going to cost. They knew that telling people they could keep their insurance if they liked it, wasn't going to happen. They knew that telling people if they liked their doctor they could keep them was a promise they couldn't deliver on.
We already pay the bills for those people with our taxes with Medicaid (MediCal in California). Makes more sense to put the money out up front that to chase after the problem with money. Also, since the ACA emphasizes preventative care, which is non existent in Medicaid, that alone will save hundreds of thousands of dollars in the long run.
If you think that ObamaCare is going to save money...then you've obviously not studied what it consists of. This was not "health care reform" designed to lower costs...this was health care reform designed to give subsidized health care to the poor and have the Middle Class pick up the tab for it. When you blow away all the smoke and break all the mirrors...that's what is left. It's wealth redistribution. Always was...always will be.
Poor Dante....pay no attention to the truth......
You are entitled to your own whack-a-doodle 'truth' but not your own facts.
You are projecting Dante....premiums have gone through the roof...only you, franco and PMZ seem to still have your blinders on.
Poor Dante....pay no attention to the truth......
You are entitled to your own whack-a-doodle 'truth' but not your own facts.
You are projecting Dante....premiums have gone through the roof...only you, franco and PMZ seem to still have your blinders on.
Never mind that it is the ACA itself that is causing all of these plans to go away.
Never mind that it is the ACA itself that is causing all of these plans to go away.
We already pay the bills for those people with our taxes with Medicaid (MediCal in California). Makes more sense to put the money out up front that to chase after the problem with money. Also, since the ACA emphasizes preventative care, which is non existent in Medicaid, that alone will save hundreds of thousands of dollars in the long run.
If you think that ObamaCare is going to save money...then you've obviously not studied what it consists of. This was not "health care reform" designed to lower costs...this was health care reform designed to give subsidized health care to the poor and have the Middle Class pick up the tab for it. When you blow away all the smoke and break all the mirrors...that's what is left. It's wealth redistribution. Always was...always will be.
It was never sold as health care reform. It was sold as health care insurance regulation.
Requiring everyone to be responsible for their own health care costs. And bringing the cost of those that business chooses not to pay a living wage to, for full time work, from under the table to on top.