How is Obama NOT a Socialist?

[mex]

What's even sadder is that since the 50's significantly more and more people are choosing welfare as a profession.

who says obama isn't providing jobs?

I didn't say he wasn't.

But the ever increasing number of people unemployed and collecting welfare is alarmingly high.

that was a joke, son.

boy's more mixed up than a feather in a whirlwind

 

[occupied]

Amazing how America has changed and changed just during my lifetime, in the Fifties few would dare post on these boards regarding socialism. Now we post as if we are not afraid and amost adult-like. But I suppose there is still some fear or am I projecting. Anyone taking names?

In the fifties only psychopathic Birchers saw social programs as socialism. Sad how they somehow became the philosophical compass of a formerly reasonable political party.

What's even sadder is that since the 50's significantly more and more people are choosing welfare as a profession.

The only kind of socialism that is responsible for growing poverty and instability is corporate socialism and hand-outs to the rich, funny how conservatives only see the kind that helps poor people as a bad thing.

 

[mex]

In the fifties only psychopathic Birchers saw social programs as socialism. Sad how they somehow became the philosophical compass of a formerly reasonable political party.

What's even sadder is that since the 50's significantly more and more people are choosing welfare as a profession.

The only kind of socialism that is responsible for growing poverty and instability is corporate socialism and hand-outs to the rich, funny how conservatives only see the kind that helps poor people as a bad thing.

conservatives don't support corporate welfare.

sorry if that doesn't fit your narrative

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Amazing how America has changed and changed just during my lifetime, in the Fifties few would dare post on these boards regarding socialism. Now we post as if we are not afraid and amost adult-like. But I suppose there is still some fear or am I projecting. Anyone taking names?

In the fifties only psychopathic Birchers saw social programs as socialism. Sad how they somehow became the philosophical compass of a formerly reasonable political party.

in the USA fighting communism never goes out of style...

 

[occupied]

What's even sadder is that since the 50's significantly more and more people are choosing welfare as a profession.

The only kind of socialism that is responsible for growing poverty and instability is corporate socialism and hand-outs to the rich, funny how conservatives only see the kind that helps poor people as a bad thing.

conservatives don't support corporate welfare.

sorry if that doesn't fit your narrative

Sorry, in a non election year your party's positions on such things as corporate taxes, inheritance taxes, regulation, accountability and outsourcing makes you full of shit.

 

[tooAlive]

I'm not even going to mention all the "conspiracies" linking him to Marxists in his early life or his solidarity with other Socialist dictators around the world.

But how is someone who preaches redistribution and wants to further Socialize our country not a Socialist?

Obviously, the hard-core Marxists don't welcome his as one of their own. But it's not as if he can do whatever he wants like it's all hunky-dory.

"Just because he sleeps wit other men doesn't mean he's gay."

Just about EVERY American is a socialist ya dumb ass. If ya pay taxes and drive on freeways...you are a socialist. If you were in the military and get any vet benis...you are a socialist. Unless you disregard all laws passed by representatives elected by the public...you are a socialist.

No, not every American is a socialist. Every American however, is forced to pay taxes.

We can agree that there is already much "socialism" in our country already. I mentioned that in another post. But I think many will agree with me when I say we have enough.

We've accepted the level of socialism currently present, and deemed that some of it is actually healthy. But more?

That's where I'm drawing the line and calling Obama a socialist. He obviously wants more. Or maybe that's a Democrat thing in general?

 

[candycorn]

I'm not even going to mention all the "conspiracies" linking him to Marxists in his early life or his solidarity with other Socialist dictators around the world.

But how is someone who preaches redistribution and wants to further Socialize our country not a Socialist?

Obviously, the hard-core Marxists don't welcome his as one of their own. But it's not as if he can do whatever he wants like it's all hunky-dory.

"Just because he sleeps wit other men doesn't mean he's gay."

Specifically, what makes him a socialist. If it is "redistribution", we've been doing that from the early years of the 1900's.

 

[mex]

The only kind of socialism that is responsible for growing poverty and instability is corporate socialism and hand-outs to the rich, funny how conservatives only see the kind that helps poor people as a bad thing.

conservatives don't support corporate welfare.

sorry if that doesn't fit your narrative

Sorry, in a non election year your party's positions on such things as corporate taxes, inheritance taxes, regulation, accountability and outsourcing makes you full of shit.

This post exemplifies the futility of debating an idiot.

you don't know what party to which I am a member. I've never said anything positive about repukes. Do a search dumbass.

all I've done in this forum is expose the idiocy of collectivism. And you... in your happy stupor... have determined that my anti-collectivism stance automatically makes me a repuke.

Which proves you're a fool.

Now, if people like you want to put lipstick on your brand of collectivism and call it progressivism... that's cool... have at it. But when you get it in bed, it's still a PIG.

Squeal baby.... squeal.

 

[tooAlive]

I'm not even going to mention all the "conspiracies" linking him to Marxists in his early life or his solidarity with other Socialist dictators around the world.

But how is someone who preaches redistribution and wants to further Socialize our country not a Socialist?

Obviously, the hard-core Marxists don't welcome his as one of their own. But it's not as if he can do whatever he wants like it's all hunky-dory.

"Just because he sleeps wit other men doesn't mean he's gay."

Specifically, what makes him a socialist. If it is "redistribution", we've been doing that from the early years of the 1900's.

That given the amount of things that are already socialized he still wants to add more.

That's where I begin to draw the line between Democrat and Socialist.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

The only kind of socialism that is responsible for growing poverty and instability is corporate socialism and hand-outs to the rich, funny how conservatives only see the kind that helps poor people as a bad thing.

conservatives don't support corporate welfare.

sorry if that doesn't fit your narrative

Sorry, in a non election year your party's positions on such things as corporate taxes, inheritance taxes, regulation, accountability and outsourcing makes you full of shit.

you really need to drop the liberal lies.....

reducing corporate taxes (to become competitive in the world and create JOBS) is a BAD thing?
cutting inheritance taxes and letting people pass on what they fucking earned is wrong?
cutting regulation that BO is strangling businesses with is a bad thing?
having accountability like a budget which BO never got around to doing is wrong?
outsourcing is not a Romney goal (even though Obama supports it...look at GE for example)

 

[occupied]

conservatives don't support corporate welfare.

sorry if that doesn't fit your narrative

Sorry, in a non election year your party's positions on such things as corporate taxes, inheritance taxes, regulation, accountability and outsourcing makes you full of shit.

This post exemplifies the futility of debating an idiot.

you don't know what party to which I am a member. I've never said anything positive about repukes. Do a search dumbass.

all I've done in this forum is expose the idiocy of collectivism. And you... in your happy stupor... have determined that my anti-collectivism stance automatically makes me a repuke.

Which proves you're a fool.

Now, if people like you want to put lipstick on your brand of collectivism and call it progressivism... that's cool... have at it. But when you get it in bed, it's still a PIG.

Squeal baby.... squeal.

Ah now I get it, you are happier when republicans are in office, probably vote for them and bash democrats and liberals all day long, but you are not a republican, that way you never have the defend the policies of the people you vote for. The libertarian/independent dodge is cowardly in the extreme.

 

[boedicca]

Obama is not a Socialist. He's a Statist who is willing to use whatever flavor of totalitarianism will enable him and his hench thugs to control the hoi poloi (for the the latter's own good, of course).

 

[occupied]

conservatives don't support corporate welfare.

sorry if that doesn't fit your narrative

Sorry, in a non election year your party's positions on such things as corporate taxes, inheritance taxes, regulation, accountability and outsourcing makes you full of shit.

you really need to drop the liberal lies.....

reducing corporate taxes (to become competitive in the world and create JOBS) is a BAD thing?
cutting inheritance taxes and letting people pass on what they fucking earned is wrong?
cutting regulation that BO is strangling businesses with is a bad thing?
having accountability like a budget which BO never got around to doing is wrong?
outsourcing is not a Romney goal (even though Obama supports it...look at GE for example)

None of those things are necessarily bad but like the rationalization you guys use for opposing "creeping socialism", perhaps there is a point where enough plutocracy is enough.

 

[mex]

Sorry, in a non election year your party's positions on such things as corporate taxes, inheritance taxes, regulation, accountability and outsourcing makes you full of shit.

This post exemplifies the futility of debating an idiot.

you don't know what party to which I am a member. I've never said anything positive about repukes. Do a search dumbass.

all I've done in this forum is expose the idiocy of collectivism. And you... in your happy stupor... have determined that my anti-collectivism stance automatically makes me a repuke.

Which proves you're a fool.

Now, if people like you want to put lipstick on your brand of collectivism and call it progressivism... that's cool... have at it. But when you get it in bed, it's still a PIG.

Squeal baby.... squeal.

Ah now I get it, you are happier when republicans are in office, probably vote for them and bash democrats and liberals all day long, but you are not a republican, that way you never have the defend the policies of the people you vote for. The libertarian/independent dodge is cowardly in the extreme.

cowardly is having to rely on cradle to grave nanny state


i'll do plenty of bashing when a repuke is fucking things up like the current imposter in chief

hopefully it will be soon

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Sorry, in a non election year your party's positions on such things as corporate taxes, inheritance taxes, regulation, accountability and outsourcing makes you full of shit.

you really need to drop the liberal lies.....

reducing corporate taxes (to become competitive in the world and create JOBS) is a BAD thing?
cutting inheritance taxes and letting people pass on what they fucking earned is wrong?
cutting regulation that BO is strangling businesses with is a bad thing?
having accountability like a budget which BO never got around to doing is wrong?
outsourcing is not a Romney goal (even though Obama supports it...look at GE for example)

None of those things are necessarily bad but like the rationalization you guys use for opposing "creeping socialism", perhaps there is a point where enough plutocracy is enough.

wealthy people in the USA are not scorned except by leftist liberal socialist scumbags....it's all part of your class envy and class warfare argument in order to disrupt America's free market capitalism....

Obamacare is a perfect example of "creeping socialism" that is creeping faster.....and it will negatively affect EVERYBODY....except those socialist ELITES (plutocrats) who exempt themselves....

 

[jasonnfree]

To me, a Socialist is a person who strives to implement Socialism.

That is what I see Obama doing. He may not be an extreme Socialist, but his agenda sure seems to be inspired by it. Specially given the amount of Socialism already existing within our country; adding more of it simply adds more fuel to the fire.

you can't implement socialism in America in one term, or two. You have to do it incrementally.

The libs have been doing it since the great society. One tax at a time.

We were ruining the country even before the great society. FDR had some programs that were called socialist. One of them was social security which most people like. The Great Society President LBJ's gift to us was Medicare, which most people like, liberal or conservative. You see a senior citizen tea partier in a motorized wheel chair ranting about the country going socialist, he/she most likely got that wheelchair courtesy of the taxpayers. So what's wrong with a little socialism for we the ordinary people?

 

[occupied]

you really need to drop the liberal lies.....

reducing corporate taxes (to become competitive in the world and create JOBS) is a BAD thing?
cutting inheritance taxes and letting people pass on what they fucking earned is wrong?
cutting regulation that BO is strangling businesses with is a bad thing?
having accountability like a budget which BO never got around to doing is wrong?
outsourcing is not a Romney goal (even though Obama supports it...look at GE for example)

None of those things are necessarily bad but like the rationalization you guys use for opposing "creeping socialism", perhaps there is a point where enough plutocracy is enough.

wealthy people in the USA are not scorned except by leftist liberal socialist scumbags....it's all part of your class envy and class warfare argument in order to disrupt America's free market capitalism....

Obamacare is a perfect example of "creeping socialism" that is creeping faster.....and it will negatively affect EVERYBODY....except those socialist ELITES (plutocrats) who exempt themselves....

Yeah I'm starting to wonder if it can ever get bad enough to where republicans stop crawling to them with tribute and considering them the rightful aristocracy to rule over us serfs.

 

[mex]

To me, a Socialist is a person who strives to implement Socialism.

That is what I see Obama doing. He may not be an extreme Socialist, but his agenda sure seems to be inspired by it. Specially given the amount of Socialism already existing within our country; adding more of it simply adds more fuel to the fire.

you can't implement socialism in America in one term, or two. You have to do it incrementally.

The libs have been doing it since the great society. One tax at a time.

We were ruining the country even before the great society. FDR had some programs that were called socialist. One of them was social security which most people like. The Great Society President LBJ's gift to us was Medicare, which most people like, liberal or conservative. You see a senior citizen tea partier in a motorized wheel chair ranting about the country going socialist, he/she most likely got that wheelchair courtesy of the taxpayers. So what's wrong with a little socialism for we the ordinary people?

Bullshit. That senior PAID IN to his medicare all his life.

where it becomes socialism, is when the government opens the 'lock box' and spends it on solyndra, bailouts of the unions, and 1.03 trillion in food stamps, is when it becomes socialism.

That senior had no fucking choice in the matter.

 

[francoHFW]

Passing a Pub plan to reform our stupid ruinous scam of a health system. or using our existing safety net to help the victims of the Pub depression doesn't make ANYONE a socialist, dupe of the greedy rich...

 

[tooAlive]

To me, a Socialist is a person who strives to implement Socialism.

That is what I see Obama doing. He may not be an extreme Socialist, but his agenda sure seems to be inspired by it. Specially given the amount of Socialism already existing within our country; adding more of it simply adds more fuel to the fire.

you can't implement socialism in America in one term, or two. You have to do it incrementally.

The libs have been doing it since the great society. One tax at a time.

We were ruining the country even before the great society. FDR had some programs that were called socialist. One of them was social security which most people like. The Great Society President LBJ's gift to us was Medicare, which most people like, liberal or conservative. You see a senior citizen tea partier in a motorized wheel chair ranting about the country going socialist, he/she most likely got that wheelchair courtesy of the taxpayers. So what's wrong with a little socialism for we the ordinary people?

There's nothing wrong with those programs.

In fact, I think some degree of socialism is healthy for the economy. But Obama is now trying to appeal to the lower classes by instilling in their minds that they deserve more from the greedy capitalists.

That's when I call him a flat out socialist.