How is Obama NOT a Socialist?

To me, a Socialist is a person who strives to implement Socialism.

That is what I see Obama doing. He may not be an extreme Socialist, but his agenda sure seems to be inspired by it. Specially given the amount of Socialism already existing within our country; adding more of it simply adds more fuel to the fire.

you can't implement socialism in America in one term, or two. You have to do it incrementally.

The libs have been doing it since the great society. One tax at a time.

We were ruining the country even before the great society. FDR had some programs that were called socialist. One of them was social security which most people like. The Great Society President LBJ's gift to us was Medicare, which most people like, liberal or conservative. You see a senior citizen tea partier in a motorized wheel chair ranting about the country going socialist, he/she most likely got that wheelchair courtesy of the taxpayers. So what's wrong with a little socialism for we the ordinary people?

don't forget LBJ's "War on Poverty".......15 TRILLION dollars later and the poverty rate is over 15%......obviously the bleeding heart liberal socialist program did not work....at least for the obvious intent.....:eusa_whistle:
 
waaaaah waaaaah waaaaaah!!!

someone take care of us! someone fulfill our every need!
 
None of those things are necessarily bad but like the rationalization you guys use for opposing "creeping socialism", perhaps there is a point where enough plutocracy is enough.

wealthy people in the USA are not scorned except by leftist liberal socialist scumbags....it's all part of your class envy and class warfare argument in order to disrupt America's free market capitalism....

Obamacare is a perfect example of "creeping socialism" that is creeping faster.....and it will negatively affect EVERYBODY....except those socialist ELITES (plutocrats) who exempt themselves....:mad:

Yeah I'm starting to wonder if it can ever get bad enough to where republicans stop crawling to them with tribute and considering them the rightful aristocracy to rule over us serfs.

you mean like Obama and GE.....? or Obama and Big Pharma.....? or Obama and Solyndra.....?
 
our stupid ruinous scam of a health system

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you can't implement socialism in America in one term, or two. You have to do it incrementally.

The libs have been doing it since the great society. One tax at a time.

We were ruining the country even before the great society. FDR had some programs that were called socialist. One of them was social security which most people like. The Great Society President LBJ's gift to us was Medicare, which most people like, liberal or conservative. You see a senior citizen tea partier in a motorized wheel chair ranting about the country going socialist, he/she most likely got that wheelchair courtesy of the taxpayers. So what's wrong with a little socialism for we the ordinary people?

There's nothing wrong with those programs.

In fact, I think some degree of socialism is healthy for the economy. But Obama is now trying to appeal to the lower classes by instilling in their minds that they deserve more from the greedy capitalists.

That's when I call him a flat out socialist.

People do deserve more from them since we are running the government for their benefit and extending them all kinds of favors to grease the skids of the economy. We have been promised all kinds of things if we just give them more and more, protect their monopolies, allow them to freely pollute, manipulate commodities, control our food energy and medicine, protect them from their mistakes and let them off the hook for their crimes. It's time they live up to the promises made by their lobbyists and pet politicians or we take back the gifts we have lavished on them.
 
you can't implement socialism in America in one term, or two. You have to do it incrementally.

The libs have been doing it since the great society. One tax at a time.

We were ruining the country even before the great society. FDR had some programs that were called socialist. One of them was social security which most people like. The Great Society President LBJ's gift to us was Medicare, which most people like, liberal or conservative. You see a senior citizen tea partier in a motorized wheel chair ranting about the country going socialist, he/she most likely got that wheelchair courtesy of the taxpayers. So what's wrong with a little socialism for we the ordinary people?

Bullshit. That senior PAID IN to his medicare all his life.

where it becomes socialism, is when the government opens the 'lock box' and spends it on solyndra, bailouts of the unions, and 1.03 trillion in food stamps, is when it becomes socialism.

That senior had no fucking choice in the matter.
The S word. Solyndra. I wish Fox news would change your marching orders/whining points.
Listen. It's still socialism. And when people start collecting, they are usually glad they paid into it all their lives. I wonder how many righteous republicans that hate socialism and collect soc. sec./medicare quit accepting benefits when they've started receiving more back than they paid in? That would be the right thing to do.
 
Can you explain how he is, by your def. So is bush, also care to link the bushes to the ties in middle eastern countries?

Then how do you explain the close relationship with Frank Marshall Davis from the age of eleven? Better there's the relationship between his mother and Davis. Then there's the Bill Ayers connection. Can you also deny those that "suuround" the president? You know, Anita Dunn, her husband, Van Jones and a large cast of self avowed Marxists that permeate the Obama administration. Are they all figments of our minds?
BTW the use of class warfare is as old as Marxism itself, just read Marx, Engels, and Lenin, That may be a little too much for you to absorb though. Oops, I almost forgot, remember when Obama said that we should judge him by those that surround him. Well, I did and I have found him to be just as accused.
The next thing you'll be calling us beside Fascists is Nazi's. Right?
 
We were ruining the country even before the great society. FDR had some programs that were called socialist. One of them was social security which most people like. The Great Society President LBJ's gift to us was Medicare, which most people like, liberal or conservative. You see a senior citizen tea partier in a motorized wheel chair ranting about the country going socialist, he/she most likely got that wheelchair courtesy of the taxpayers. So what's wrong with a little socialism for we the ordinary people?

There's nothing wrong with those programs.

In fact, I think some degree of socialism is healthy for the economy. But Obama is now trying to appeal to the lower classes by instilling in their minds that they deserve more from the greedy capitalists.

That's when I call him a flat out socialist.

People do deserve more from them since we are running the government for their benefit and extending them all kinds of favors to grease the skids of the economy. We have been promised all kinds of things if we just give them more and more, protect their monopolies, allow them to freely pollute, manipulate commodities, control our food energy and medicine, protect them from their mistakes and let them off the hook for their crimes. It's time they live up to the promises made by their lobbyists and pet politicians or we take back the gifts we have lavished on them.

Capitalists are good people by and large (and this includes MOST hardworking American business owners...including the guy who owns the local pizza joint)....
...you Socialists will say anything to slime them (AND America).......:eusa_hand:
 
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There's nothing wrong with those programs.

In fact, I think some degree of socialism is healthy for the economy. But Obama is now trying to appeal to the lower classes by instilling in their minds that they deserve more from the greedy capitalists.

That's when I call him a flat out socialist.

People do deserve more from them since we are running the government for their benefit and extending them all kinds of favors to grease the skids of the economy. We have been promised all kinds of things if we just give them more and more, protect their monopolies, allow them to freely pollute, manipulate commodities, control our food energy and medicine, protect them from their mistakes and let them off the hook for their crimes. It's time they live up to the promises made by their lobbyists and pet politicians or we take back the gifts we have lavished on them.

Capitalists are good people by and large (and this includes MOST hardworking American business owners...including the guy who owns the local pizza joint)....
...you Socialists will say anything to slime them (AND America).......:eusa_hand:

And apparently you will say anything to protect the megacorp/wall street mafia. These people are not the same as a pizza joint and do not play by the same rules if any, quit trying to equate my harsh criticism of the "captains of industry" as an attack on all business owners, they put more people out of business than the government ever could.
 
People do deserve more from them since we are running the government for their benefit and extending them all kinds of favors to grease the skids of the economy. We have been promised all kinds of things if we just give them more and more, protect their monopolies, allow them to freely pollute, manipulate commodities, control our food energy and medicine, protect them from their mistakes and let them off the hook for their crimes. It's time they live up to the promises made by their lobbyists and pet politicians or we take back the gifts we have lavished on them.

Capitalists are good people by and large (and this includes MOST hardworking American business owners...including the guy who owns the local pizza joint)....
...you Socialists will say anything to slime them (AND America).......:eusa_hand:

And apparently you will say anything to protect the megacorp/wall street mafia. These people are not the same as a pizza joint and do not play by the same rules if any, quit trying to equate my harsh criticism of the "captains of industry" as an attack on all business owners, they put more people out of business than the government ever could.

so a guy works hard and creates a pizza chain all over the world......he is now a "captain of industry".....why is he now someone you hate....?
 
All industrial nations econmies are a mixture of socialism and capitalism. China has recently added a little more capitalism. Can anyone name a nation with no socialism? For almost 100 years now conservatives have used the scare tactic of socialism leads to communism and it is still being used. How much socialism and much capitalism do we want in the mixture is our real choice.
 
All industrial nations econmies are a mixture of socialism and capitalism. China has recently added a little more capitalism. Can anyone name a nation with no socialism? For almost 100 years now conservatives have used the scare tactic of socialism leads to communism and it is still being used. How much socialism and much capitalism do we want in the mixture is our real choice.

socialism is just a series of steps on the way to pure communism....the ideal which never can seem to materialize....

i think Americans have had their fill of Obama's push for more socialism.....which is why Romney is going to win....
 
Capitalists are good people by and large (and this includes MOST hardworking American business owners...including the guy who owns the local pizza joint)....
...you Socialists will say anything to slime them (AND America).......:eusa_hand:

And apparently you will say anything to protect the megacorp/wall street mafia. These people are not the same as a pizza joint and do not play by the same rules if any, quit trying to equate my harsh criticism of the "captains of industry" as an attack on all business owners, they put more people out of business than the government ever could.

so a guy works hard and creates a pizza chain all over the world......he is now a "captain of industry".....why is he now someone you hate....?

As I told another one of you earlier in the thread, being deliberately obtuse is a lousy way to argue and just makes you look stupid.
 
We were ruining the country even before the great society. FDR had some programs that were called socialist. One of them was social security which most people like. The Great Society President LBJ's gift to us was Medicare, which most people like, liberal or conservative. You see a senior citizen tea partier in a motorized wheel chair ranting about the country going socialist, he/she most likely got that wheelchair courtesy of the taxpayers. So what's wrong with a little socialism for we the ordinary people?

Bullshit. That senior PAID IN to his medicare all his life.

where it becomes socialism, is when the government opens the 'lock box' and spends it on solyndra, bailouts of the unions, and 1.03 trillion in food stamps, is when it becomes socialism.

That senior had no fucking choice in the matter.
The S word. Solyndra. I wish Fox news would change your marching orders/whining points.
Listen. It's still socialism. And when people start collecting, they are usually glad they paid into it all their lives. I wonder how many righteous republicans that hate socialism and collect soc. sec./medicare quit accepting benefits when they've started receiving more back than they paid in? That would be the right thing to do.

you're an idiot.

They are forced to pay in... of course they take their bennies. doesn't make them socialists, nor does it mean they think it's great.

you're not really ignorant... you just happen to know so much that isn't so.

can you say 16 trillion? do you have kids? Tell them it's bush's fault.
 
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And apparently you will say anything to protect the megacorp/wall street mafia. These people are not the same as a pizza joint and do not play by the same rules if any, quit trying to equate my harsh criticism of the "captains of industry" as an attack on all business owners, they put more people out of business than the government ever could.

so a guy works hard and creates a pizza chain all over the world......he is now a "captain of industry".....why is he now someone you hate....?

As I told another one of you earlier in the thread, being deliberately obtuse is a lousy way to argue and just makes you look stupid.

i just broke it down to a relateable example so you could understand what a Capitalist is......but because you cannot argue logically you must namecall.....typical of a libtard.....:eusa_boohoo:
 
There's nothing wrong with those programs.

In fact, I think some degree of socialism is healthy for the economy. But Obama is now trying to appeal to the lower classes by instilling in their minds that they deserve more from the greedy capitalists.

That's when I call him a flat out socialist.

People do deserve more from them since we are running the government for their benefit and extending them all kinds of favors to grease the skids of the economy. We have been promised all kinds of things if we just give them more and more, protect their monopolies, allow them to freely pollute, manipulate commodities, control our food energy and medicine, protect them from their mistakes and let them off the hook for their crimes. It's time they live up to the promises made by their lobbyists and pet politicians or we take back the gifts we have lavished on them.

Capitalists are good people by and large (and this includes MOST hardworking American business owners...including the guy who owns the local pizza joint)....
...you Socialists will say anything to slime them (AND America).......:eusa_hand:

I don't know any capitalists to say they're good people, maybe they are. I did four years in the Navy. Volunteer or get drafted and maybe get shot at? No way. Forced volunteering I call it. Still, I involuntarily helped make the shipping lanes and commerce safe for capitalists like the oil companies. That was some nice socialist help corporate america got from people like me and the taxpayers. You'd think they'd at least give veterans a 10 or 15% discount at the pump? Hell no. You'd think they wouldn't want to hire politicians and lawyers and lobbyists to grease the skids for them so they wouldn't have to pay their fair share in taxes for the services they received courtesy of the armed forces and the taxpayers and people like me? Hell no.
 
And apparently you will say anything to protect the megacorp/wall street mafia. These people are not the same as a pizza joint and do not play by the same rules if any, quit trying to equate my harsh criticism of the "captains of industry" as an attack on all business owners, they put more people out of business than the government ever could.

so a guy works hard and creates a pizza chain all over the world......he is now a "captain of industry".....why is he now someone you hate....?

As I told another one of you earlier in the thread, being deliberately obtuse is a lousy way to argue and just makes you look stupid.
better take that advice screaming eagle...

he's got a lot of experience looking stupid....
 
so a guy works hard and creates a pizza chain all over the world......he is now a "captain of industry".....why is he now someone you hate....?

As I told another one of you earlier in the thread, being deliberately obtuse is a lousy way to argue and just makes you look stupid.

i just broke it down to a relateable example so you could understand what a Capitalist is......but because you cannot argue logically you must namecall.....typical of a libtard.....:eusa_boohoo:

You should probably make some sort of distinction between capitalism and free enterprise, if you cannot see the difference between a Wall Street corporate raider and someone who is an honest businessman then perhaps we should ease up on drug dealers and extortionists as they too accumulate wealth and are therefore capitalists.
 
I'm not even going to mention all the "conspiracies" linking him to Marxists in his early life or his solidarity with other Socialist dictators around the world.

But how is someone who preaches redistribution and wants to further Socialize our country not a Socialist?

Obviously, the hard-core Marxists don't welcome his as one of their own. But it's not as if he can do whatever he wants like it's all hunky-dory.

"Just because he sleeps wit other men doesn't mean he's gay." :cuckoo:

Check the US Constitution.

It's chock full of Socialism.

Maybe you should think of moving to a non-socialist state. Like Somalia.
 
People do deserve more from them since we are running the government for their benefit and extending them all kinds of favors to grease the skids of the economy. We have been promised all kinds of things if we just give them more and more, protect their monopolies, allow them to freely pollute, manipulate commodities, control our food energy and medicine, protect them from their mistakes and let them off the hook for their crimes. It's time they live up to the promises made by their lobbyists and pet politicians or we take back the gifts we have lavished on them.

Capitalists are good people by and large (and this includes MOST hardworking American business owners...including the guy who owns the local pizza joint)....
...you Socialists will say anything to slime them (AND America).......:eusa_hand:

I don't know any capitalists to say they're good people, maybe they are. I did four years in the Navy. Volunteer or get drafted and maybe get shot at? No way. Forced volunteering I call it. Still, I involuntarily helped make the shipping lanes and commerce safe for capitalists like the oil companies. That was some nice socialist help corporate america got from people like me and the taxpayers. You'd think they'd at least give veterans a 10 or 15% discount at the pump? Hell no. You'd think they wouldn't want to hire politicians and lawyers and lobbyists to grease the skids for them so they wouldn't have to pay their fair share in taxes for the services they received courtesy of the armed forces and the taxpayers and people like me? Hell no.
that's retarded. oil companies make less than 5% on a gallon of gas

whereas your benevolent socialist government takes 35%

tell me again who owes you what?
 

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