How is Barak Obama "far left"?

[Modbert]

Oh bullshit. Nazism gained power because they CLAIMED to have right-wing ideals, but they didn't. Hitler's Nazis were just a bunch of thugs that said what they thought would catapault them to power the quickest.

Then they said "fuck you" killed off millions of people they didn't like, including a bunch of their own, and tried to take over the world.

So you just compared Obama to Hitler and the Holocaust. Congratulations for being a crazy loon.

 

[PeterS]

Oh bullshit. Nazism gained power because they CLAIMED to have right-wing ideals, but they didn't. Hitler's Nazis were just a bunch of thugs that said what they thought would catapault them to power the quickest.

Then they said "fuck you" killed off millions of people they didn't like, including a bunch of their own, and tried to take over the world.

Sorry, I forgot that conservatives have no warts. The point being that socialism is a pragmatic approach to governance historically utilized by both left and right wing ideologies. Conservatives today are crying 'socialism' with respect to health care all while the republican party is running ads claiming to be the 'real' protectors of Medicare. As for thugs, try tuning into Glen Beck or Limbaugh sometime and tell me there is no thuggery there...

 

[rdean]

Far left.

Obama wants to help middle class America.

Obama wants to rebuild America's infrastructure.

Oboma wants affordable health care for all Americans.

Obama honors the dead soldiers arriving at Dover.

Obama believes education helps America.

Obama believes in diplomacy over war.

All of these are "evidence" that Obama is far left.

I can't put reputed wants and beliefs in my fuel tank.

He walks like a socialist, quacks like a socialist, swims with a whole paddling of socialists...He's a socialist.

Someone who writes best sellers, makes millions and then gives none of it away. Oh wait, I suspect you could call that "capitalism". Socialism, capitalism, for the right they are "isms", which means they are all the same. Socialism, capitalism, Marxism, fascism, Judaism, jism. They are all "isms". To conservatives, that makes them interchangeable.

 

[Oddball]

That's right....An ounce of image = a pound of performance.

And a boatload of inconsequential fluff = inane deflection.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Oh bullshit. Nazism gained power because they CLAIMED to have right-wing ideals, but they didn't. Hitler's Nazis were just a bunch of thugs that said what they thought would catapault them to power the quickest.

Then they said "fuck you" killed off millions of people they didn't like, including a bunch of their own, and tried to take over the world.

Sorry, I forgot that conservatives have no warts. The point being that socialism is a pragmatic approach to governance historically utilized by both left and right wing ideologies. Conservatives today are crying 'socialism' with respect to health care all while the republican party is running ads claiming to be the 'real' protectors of Medicare. As for thugs, try tuning into Glen Beck or Limbaugh sometime and tell me there is no thuggery there...

http://www.usmessageboard.com/media/85916-beck-open-book-test.html?highlight=open+book+test

 

[alan1]

Far left.

Obama wants to help middle class America.

Obama wants to rebuild America's infrastructure.

Oboma wants affordable health care for all Americans.

Obama honors the dead soldiers arriving at Dover.

Obama believes education helps America.

Obama believes in diplomacy over war.

All of these are "evidence" that Obama is far left.

I can't put reputed wants and beliefs in my fuel tank.

He walks like a socialist, quacks like a socialist, swims with a whole paddling of socialists...He's a socialist.

Someone who writes best sellers, makes millions and then gives none of it away. Oh wait, I suspect you could call that "capitalism". Socialism, capitalism, for the right they are "isms", which means they are all the same. Socialism, capitalism, Marxism, fascism, Judaism, jism. They are all "isms". To conservatives, that makes them interchangeable.

You mean somebody that doesn't want to give his money away, yet does everything he can to give your money away? How is that capitalism? You seem to be confused.

 

[theHawk]

I've heard Obama being called "far left", "the most liberal senator in the senate", or any number of combinations and permutations of that phrase.

And yet, all I've seen from him is Bill Clinton-like moderation. President Obama is a middle of the road, moderate Democrat.

If you disagree with me, tell me why?

If you voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, you might be a far left liberal.

If your talking points mirror the Communist Party USA, you might be a far left liberal.

If you appoint communists to "Czars" within your government, you might be a far left liberal.

If you've been friends with a communist who bombed the Pentagon and called for the defeat of American troops, you might be a far left liberal.

 

[rdean]

I can't put reputed wants and beliefs in my fuel tank.

He walks like a socialist, quacks like a socialist, swims with a whole paddling of socialists...He's a socialist.

Someone who writes best sellers, makes millions and then gives none of it away. Oh wait, I suspect you could call that "capitalism". Socialism, capitalism, for the right they are "isms", which means they are all the same. Socialism, capitalism, Marxism, fascism, Judaism, jism. They are all "isms". To conservatives, that makes them interchangeable.

You mean somebody that doesn't want to give his money away, yet does everything he can to give your money away? How is that capitalism? You seem to be confused.

I can't figure out why Republicans continue to say that. The Republican tax cuts for the rich plus all the tax shelters and tax breaks led to the largest redistribution of wealth from the middle class to the top top 3% in the history of the world.

Why this war on the Middle class by Republicans? Go figure.

 

[theHawk]

This isn't a logic problem - there's no "proof" of anything involved. I can give evidence though.

We're still in Iraq.
Obama doesn't support same-sex marriage.
Obama doesn't support single-payer or nationalized healthcare.
Obama hasn't taken anyone's guns.

Also (I wouldn't consider these things to be "far left", but still the rhetoric comes)

Obama isn't trying to institute Sharia law.
Conservatives aren't being rounded up in FEMA camps.

There's plenty more evidence, if you'd like I could continue.

Now, do you have any evidence that he is "far left"?

Just because Obama hasn't "re-shaped" this country into the little Marxist-land he'd like it to be doesn't mean he is moderate. Thankfully, the Presidency of the US is not the same as a King and he has no power to have his hand and "make it so". Although he has a Democratic majority in Congress he is still held back by the power of conservatives. He, and the rest of the democrats are afraid to pull the trigger on their plethora of socialist programs because they all know it will be political suicide. They all know the conservatives make up a majority of the country and if they piss them off too much, they'll get kicked to the curb faster than a Hollywood Boulevard hooker. Every election these far left liberals have to pretend they're a "moderate", then when they are in office try to sneak as much socialist shit through Congress.

 

[theHawk]

I can't figure out why Republicans continue to say that. The Republican tax cuts for the rich plus all the tax shelters and tax breaks led to the largest redistribution of wealth from the middle class to the top top 3% in the history of the world.

Why this war on the Middle class by Republicans? Go figure.

How on the hell is it a redistribution of wealth from the middle class to the top 3%?

I am middle class, how are Republicans "at war" with me?

 

[alan1]

Someone who writes best sellers, makes millions and then gives none of it away. Oh wait, I suspect you could call that "capitalism". Socialism, capitalism, for the right they are "isms", which means they are all the same. Socialism, capitalism, Marxism, fascism, Judaism, jism. They are all "isms". To conservatives, that makes them interchangeable.

You mean somebody that doesn't want to give his money away, yet does everything he can to give your money away? How is that capitalism? You seem to be confused.

I can't figure out why Republicans continue to say that. The Republican tax cuts for the rich plus all the tax shelters and tax breaks led to the largest redistribution of wealth from the middle class to the top top 3% in the history of the world.

Why this war on the Middle class by Republicans? Go figure.

Do you live in opposite land?
How is letting somebody keep money they earned redistribution of wealth?
Redistribution of wealth is when you take money from one person and give it to somebody else.

 

[rightwinger]

I've heard Obama being called "far left", "the most liberal senator in the senate", or any number of combinations and permutations of that phrase.

And yet, all I've seen from him is Bill Clinton-like moderation. President Obama is a middle of the road, moderate Democrat.

If you disagree with me, tell me why?

The republicans called Bill Clinton a Liberal too

They also call RINOs Liberal

Anyone who disagrees with them gets called a Liberal or a Socialist

 

[chanel]

People are judged by the company they keep....

Nuff said?

 

[rightwinger]

People are judged by the company they keep....

Nuff said?

President Obama keeps company with the most powerful and influential people in the world.

 

[Zoom-boing]

People are judged by the company they keep....

Nuff said?

President Obama keeps company with the most powerful and influential people in the world.

Because he pulled them into his fold. Note my sig.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I've heard Obama being called "far left", "the most liberal senator in the senate", or any number of combinations and permutations of that phrase.

And yet, all I've seen from him is Bill Clinton-like moderation. President Obama is a middle of the road, moderate Democrat.

If you disagree with me, tell me why?

The following are indicia of left-wing mentality:

1. Cuddles up to dictators and tyrants, while ignoring or casting aspersions at allies and democracies

2. Does not believe in American exceptionalism:
"I believe in American exceptionalism," Obama said on one of his trips to Europe, "just as I suspect that Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism."

3. Wants to spread the wealth rather than celebrate success and entrepreneurship.
"The American Dream is not to make everyone level with everyone else, but to create the opportunity for all people to reach as high as their God-given potential allows. In this Nation, if you're born to be a mezzo soprano, or a master carpenter, or even an NFL quarterback, there ought not be anything standing in your way, not color, not creed, nor station in life."
ANNOUNCEMENT FOR THE PRESIDENCY OF THE UNITED STATES
BY CONGRESSMAN JACK KEMP
APRIL 6, 1987
4. Attempts to shut down critics by using the power of the presidency.
This, from Orwell’s ‘1984’: “The two aims of the Party are to conquer the whole surface of the earth, and to extinguish once and for all the possibility of independent thought...When people ‘disappear’ no one is allowed to mention it, no one is mourned, no one person is important, only the Party and Big Brother are important.”


5. Surrounds himself with ultra-left-wing and crack-pot advisors.(List is extensive)


6. Big government vs. small government.
a. Take-over of industry (-ies)

7. Belief in disarmament for our country rather than a robust defense.

8. Chooses as Supreme Court nominee, one who promised that her background will color her views of justice.
At the hearings of Justice Roberts, we see an interesting interplay that illuminates the differences between liberals and conservatives:
ROBERTS: I had someone ask me in this process -- I don’t remember who it was, but somebody asked me, you know, “Are you going to be on the side of the little guy?”

And you obviously want to give an immediate answer, but, as you reflect on it, if the Constitution says that the little guy should win, the little guy’s going to win in court before me. But if the Constitution says that the big guy should win, well, then the big guy’s going to win, because my obligation is to the Constitution. That’s the oath.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I've heard Obama being called "far left", "the most liberal senator in the senate", or any number of combinations and permutations of that phrase.

And yet, all I've seen from him is Bill Clinton-like moderation. President Obama is a middle of the road, moderate Democrat.

If you disagree with me, tell me why?

I couldn't disagree more!

The handball would kick his ass and take his lunch money!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Obama nationalized 2 car companies
Froze US Capital Markets
Wants to eliminate the Insurance Industry
Wants to cripple our ability to produce energy to even maintain, much less grow our economy
and wants control over your life and death.

That's so far Left, that's Fascism!

 

[chanel]

This isn't a logic problem - there's no "proof" of anything involved. I can give evidence though.

We're still in Iraq.
Obama doesn't support same-sex marriage.
Obama doesn't support single-payer or nationalized healthcare.
Obama hasn't taken anyone's guns.

Also (I wouldn't consider these things to be "far left", but still the rhetoric comes)

Obama isn't trying to institute Sharia law.
Conservatives aren't being rounded up in FEMA camps.

There's plenty more evidence, if you'd like I could continue.

Now, do you have any evidence that he is "far left"?

Just because Obama hasn't "re-shaped" this country into the little Marxist-land he'd like it to be doesn't mean he is moderate. Thankfully, the Presidency of the US is not the same as a King and he has no power to have his hand and "make it so". Although he has a Democratic majority in Congress he is still held back by the power of conservatives. He, and the rest of the democrats are afraid to pull the trigger on their plethora of socialist programs because they all know it will be political suicide. They all know the conservatives make up a majority of the country and if they piss them off too much, they'll get kicked to the curb faster than a Hollywood Boulevard hooker. Every election these far left liberals have to pretend they're a "moderate", then when they are in office try to sneak as much socialist shit through Congress.

Yep. He's planning his complete "radical" transformation for his second term. "Be patient comrades".

 

[Xenophon]

Wants to pass 'cap & trade' they will destroy entire industry based on the disputed science of man made global warming...

Wants to pass Barrycare that is basically a government takeover of the health insurance industry...

Both will cost millions of jobs during a recession, but he wants to do it 'for your own good'...

Flies about the world appologizing to enimies and insulting and ignoring friends...

Fully intends to raise taxes to crippling levels to support government control of almost 48% of US businesses...

How is he far left?

The better question is, how ISN'T he far left.