How is Barak Obama "far left"?

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    I've heard Obama being called "far left", "the most liberal senator in the senate", or any number of combinations and permutations of that phrase.

    And yet, all I've seen from him is Bill Clinton-like moderation. President Obama is a middle of the road, moderate Democrat.

    If you disagree with me, tell me why?
     
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    This message is hidden because skookerasbil is on your ignore list.

    Anyone else? Anyone who can write in complete sentences, not MS Paint drawings?
     
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    The definition of "Moderate Democrat" is "Far left". To put that in context, the definition of "Moderate Republican" is "Left".
     
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    Rhetoric. Give me an example of what "far left" is, and show how Obama is that.
     
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    How about if you give me proof that he is a moderate democrat first, since that is the claim you made.
     
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    Proof?

    This isn't a logic problem - there's no "proof" of anything involved. I can give evidence though.

    We're still in Iraq.
    Obama doesn't support same-sex marriage.
    Obama doesn't support single-payer or nationalized healthcare.
    Obama hasn't taken anyone's guns.

    Also (I wouldn't consider these things to be "far left", but still the rhetoric comes)

    Obama isn't trying to institute Sharia law.
    Conservatives aren't being rounded up in FEMA camps.

    There's plenty more evidence, if you'd like I could continue.

    Now, do you have any evidence that he is "far left"?
     
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    I think he is trying so hard to appear moderate that he is losing focus. He is allowing his desire for GOP acceptance to overshadow his policy. Rather than fight for what he believes in, he sits on the sidelines and appears to be taking a moderate stance.

    I do think he is an extremely intelligent President who weighs his decisions well, perhaps even too well. It will come to the point when his supposed "moderate" stance will appear a weakness. Politics can be very cruel to the weak.
     
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    Did you read the article? Or did you just like the headline. There's nothing in that article that could be considered anything more than just the opinion of one man on the op-ed board of Pravda. There's no evidence of anything "far left", in fact the single "fact" in the entire article is that Obama chose not to develop the missle shield.
     
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