House to Discipline Wilson

[Political Junky]

Well, Wilson was censured. It's done.

 

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Well, Wilson was censured. It's done.

They did not censure him. That would have been more severe. There merely passed a resolution of disapproval.


Poor thing.

 

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GOP paved way for Wilson reprimand



By DANIEL LIBIT | 9/15/09 6:10 PM EDT






If Rep. Joe Wilson is finding parliamentary procedure to be a bit of a nuisance in the wake of his “you lie” attack on President Barack Obama, he has his Republican forbearers to thank.


More: GOP paved way for Wilson reprimand - Daniel Libit - POLITICO.com

 

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The prohibition on attacking the president’s integrity dates back to Thomas Jefferson’s Manual of Parliamentary Practice for the Use of the Senate of the United States, which he wrote in 1801. In 1909, the House made his proscriptions the explicit rules of decorum, and has put abridgements of his manual in a pamphlet titled, “Constitution, Jefferson's Manual, and Rules of the House of Representatives.”

It stipulates that: “Personal abuse, innuendo, or ridicule of the president, is not permitted. Under this standard it is not in order to call the president, or a presumptive major-party nominee for president, a ‘liar’ or accuse him of ‘lying.’ Indeed, any suggestion of mendacity is out of order.”

 

[Liability]

Well, Wilson was censured. It's done.

Wrong.

It was not a censure.

It was a "vote of disapproval" whatever the fuck that means.

Whereas on September 9, 2009, during the joint session of Congress convened pursuant to House Concurrent Resolution 179, the President of the United States, speaking at the invitation of the House and Senate, had his remarks interrupted by the Representative from South Carolina, Mr. Wilson;

And Whereas the conduct of the Representative from South Carolina was a breach of decorum and degraded the proceedings of the joint session, to the discredit of the House: Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That the House of Representatives disapproves of the behavior of the Representative from South Carolina, Mr. Wilson, during the joint session of Congress held on September 9, 2009.

Zzzz.

Big fucking hairy dopey pointless deal.

Partisan Democrats say "nanananabooboo."

 

[hjmick]

Well, now that they've handled the Wilson scandal I guess they'll be moving on to the Charles Rangel debacle. Right?

 

[txlonghorn]

I wonder if Al Gore still holds that same position he did when he made this speech. If you put it into perspective of today's current affairs, I wonder if he would still be so vocal about "preserving the Constitution as we know it...and protecting the America that we have lived in and loved for so long". I wonder if he is still concerned about the persecution of Americans who pose a threat to this nation. I would bet that there is a much longer list of targets being compiled for the current administration.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6bMDaX14PQ&feature=fvw]YouTube - AL GORE: Highlights from 1/06 Speech Blasting Bush Admin[/ame]

 

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Well, Wilson was censured. It's done.

Wrong.

It was not a censure.

It was a "vote of disapproval" whatever the fuck that means.

Whereas on September 9, 2009, during the joint session of Congress convened pursuant to House Concurrent Resolution 179, the President of the United States, speaking at the invitation of the House and Senate, had his remarks interrupted by the Representative from South Carolina, Mr. Wilson;

And Whereas the conduct of the Representative from South Carolina was a breach of decorum and degraded the proceedings of the joint session, to the discredit of the House: Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That the House of Representatives disapproves of the behavior of the Representative from South Carolina, Mr. Wilson, during the joint session of Congress held on September 9, 2009.

Zzzz.

Big fucking hairy dopey pointless deal.

Partisan Democrats say "nanananabooboo."

Poor baybees.

Live by the rebuke, die by the rebuke.

 

[Fatality]

Looks like it's a simple "resolution of disapproval," unlike when the pubs tried to Censure Pete Stark in 2007, for speaking against the president. That would be Bush.

"House Democratic leaders have decided to formally discipline Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C., on Tuesday for his jeer last week at President Obama during a joint session of Congress.


The punishment is expected take the form of a "resolution of disapproval," which is a milder version of other more traditional means of congressional discipline like a censure or fine. Wilson can avoid the rap on the wrists by apologizing to his colleagues on the House floor, but Wilson -- who already apologized directly to the White House -- has said that's not going to happen.



Wilson bellowed "You lie!" at Obama during his address. It's against House rules to call the president a "liar" or accuse him of "lying" when the House is in session.
"We're not the British parliament for a reason," said Kristie Greco, spokeswoman for House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn, D-S.C.,."Ignoring the issue sets a precedent for bad behavior."


Greco described the resolution as "direct" and "non-partisan."
"It goes directly to conduct on the House floor," Greco said.
Most Democrats in the House appear poised to sanction Wilson. But many Republicans argue that since the South Carolina Republican has already apologized, this step is unnecessary. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., opposed punishing Wilson until Clyburn and other Democratic leaders persuaded her to change her mind.
Critics say Democrats are only prolonging the issue and hurting themselves by pushing for further action against Wilson. Republicans may use the Wilson resolution to try to embarrass Democrats Tuesday, by bringing up the alleged ethical lapses of House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charlie Rangel, D-N.Y., or Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., or others.



The resolution is "privileged," meaning whenever it is introduced the measure goes to the front of the legislative line. It is unclear who will call up the measure.
A "resolution of disapproval" is not one of the four forms of discipline typically meted out in the House. The most commonly used means of punishment are expulsion, censure, reprimand or fine.


For instance, in 1997, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich was both reprimanded and fined for his book deal. Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., was reprimanded in 1990 for ethical breaches tied to a male prostitute. Republicans tried to censure Rep. Pete Stark, D-Calif., in 2007 for comments he made on the House floor about President Bush. But Democrats voted to set aside that effort.



A simple majority vote is needed to approve the resolution against Wilson."


House to Discipline Wilson for 'You Lie!' Outburst - Political News - FOXNews.com

yep so its all meaningless bullshit and wilson should just tell em to get bent

If he has any guts, he'll say it right on the House floor.

Go for it Joe Bob!

Dare ya.

he should, that would be perfect to watch as the demos are sitting there rubbing their hands together, salivating and drooling waiting for the big apology then Wilson stand up to the mic and says FUCK YOU!!! flips em the bird and walks off like "do something about it bitch!" i would buy that on ppv

 

[WillowTree]

Hot Diggity Dwag Rep. Gohmert (R) Texas just pretty much called the TOTUS a liar.. is that racist?

 

[paperview]

yep so its all meaningless bullshit and wilson should just tell em to get bent

If he has any guts, he'll say it right on the House floor.

Go for it Joe Bob!

Dare ya.

he should, that would be perfect to watch as the demos are sitting there rubbing their hands together, salivating and drooling waiting for the big apology then Wilson stand up to the mic and says FUCK YOU!!! flips em the bird and walks off like "do something about it bitch!" i would buy that on ppv

Too late sucka.

Already done - and he dinn't.

No balls.

 

[Dr.House]

Who the fuck cares....

 

[Liability]

If he has any guts, he'll say it right on the House floor.

Go for it Joe Bob!

Dare ya.

he should, that would be perfect to watch as the demos are sitting there rubbing their hands together, salivating and drooling waiting for the big apology then Wilson stand up to the mic and says FUCK YOU!!! flips em the bird and walks off like "do something about it bitch!" i would buy that on ppv

Too late sucka.

Already done - and he dinn't.

No balls.

The libtarded Democratics need to spend time voting on a fucking Resolution to assert the simple sentiment: We disapprove!

Oh. They don't like it that the Congressman violated a rule of decorum and politeness. Ok. I don't think he did the right thing in saying what he said in THAT VENUE at that time, either. And?

On the other hand, at least Wilson told the truth. President Obama DID lie. All the liberal Democrat deflections don't change that.

And a Resolution of Disapproval passed on an almost (not quite, but almost) purely partisan political party-line basis means SO much!

 

[PixieStix]

This is what congress does with our time, and our money?! They make me sick! If this administration AKA as ACORN has something on any of the representatives in the house or the senate, then they all need to be voted out. It seems we need a new slate. I do not care any longer what their excuses are, as to why they think or deem this a necessary action. They are scum.

 

[PixieStix]

Who the fuck cares....

WHO does

 

[Fatality]

This is what congress does with our time, and our money?! They make me sick! If this administration AKA as ACORN has something on any of the representatives in the house or the senate, then they all need to be voted out. It seems we need a new slate. I do not care any longer what their excuses are, as to why they think or deem this a necessary action. They are scum.

well we all know we cant expect substance from these lowlifes they just dont have it in em

 

[Fatality]

If he has any guts, he'll say it right on the House floor.

Go for it Joe Bob!

Dare ya.

he should, that would be perfect to watch as the demos are sitting there rubbing their hands together, salivating and drooling waiting for the big apology then Wilson stand up to the mic and says FUCK YOU!!! flips em the bird and walks off like "do something about it bitch!" i would buy that on ppv

Too late sucka.

Already done - and he dinn't.

No balls.

sux, he coulda been a star, wish it had been me

 

[Wicked Jester]

OOOOOOOOOOOOH!
They disaproved him!
OOOOOOOOOOOOH!
Those dem's are bad asses alright!
OOOOOOOOOOOOH!
NOBODY GIVES A SHIT!

 

[RetiredGySgt]

What if a Democrat Congressman in attendance at the State of the Union (when Bush lied. Remember yellow cake?) had yelled out "You lie!"?
Imagine the outrage: Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, O'Reilly, the Fox News anchors and right wing radio clamoring, "Traitor!", "un-American!" and demanding the Democratic member be tarred and feathered.
It's well past time for civility to be part of the public debate.

They booed and made cat calls, same thing or probably worse actually since it was not a single comment and further they NEVER apologized. Go figure. And what did the Republicans do? Why nothing at all. And the one dem that did get an attempt to punish for comments about Bush the Dems voted against it, go figure.

 

[Wicked Jester]

Nancy Pelosi must have been fingering that mangina of hers with a frenzy as the vote came down.
Henry Waxman must have been scratchin' real hard at that "liberal male feminine itch!"
Wilson must have been laughin' his ass off at home, while the campaign contributions continue to pour in!
Fuckin' libs are idiots!