Hillary to Gun Owners: Take Back The Second Amendment From NRA Extremists

[Stephanie]

I do believe Shallow would be the first in line to get a brown shirt and jack boots if his Government was looking for recruitments.

now talk of banning abortion.

so much hysteria I don't know how they live their lives

 

[KGB]

Justice Berger can go to hell. The PEOPLE have the right to keep and bear arms, it doesn't get simpler than that.

as part of a well-regulated militia....

sorry, marty. justice berger was right... so was every other justice for the almost 200 years before him. scalia is an aberration and just because you like what he says, doesn't make him correct. it makes heller law.... but not good law.

The STATES have the right to form militas, the PEOPLE keep the right to retain arms.

People in the past would consider banning a law abiding citizen from owning a firearm as ludicrous, its a modern invention.

The Constitution doesn't have any clauses where private citizens have the right to own a gun for self defense.

2nd Amendment.

That..is a modern invention.

Nonsense.

Feel free.

Cite the clause in the Constitution that specifically grants citizens the right to a gun for personal protection.

Let's see what the guys who actually wrote the Constitution had to say about gun rights...

The Founding Fathers on the Second Amendment

This is pretty clear the Founding Fathers felt that the people had a right to arms for their personal protection.....

 

[KGB]

2nd Amendment.

Nonsense.

Feel free.

Cite the clause in the Constitution that specifically grants citizens the right to a gun for personal protection.

1) Nothing in the Constitution grants any rights--certain rights are recognized by their enumeration.
2) 2nd Amendment is what you're looking for.

There are plenty of rights granted by the Constitution.

And the 2nd Amendment sets up a structure for a militia.

however it is the right of the (people) to keep and bear arms

Who are required to be part of a militia and at the ready to defend the state and under the jurisdiction of Congress and the Commander in Chief.

Incorrect as the Supreme Court already stated a few years back. You are denying reality.

 

[KGB]

as part of a well-regulated militia....

sorry, marty. justice berger was right... so was every other justice for the almost 200 years before him. scalia is an aberration and just because you like what he says, doesn't make him correct. it makes heller law.... but not good law.

The STATES have the right to form militas, the PEOPLE keep the right to retain arms.

People in the past would consider banning a law abiding citizen from owning a firearm as ludicrous, its a modern invention.

The Constitution doesn't have any clauses where private citizens have the right to own a gun for self defense.

2nd Amendment.

That..is a modern invention.

Nonsense.

Feel free.

Cite the clause in the Constitution that specifically grants citizens the right to a gun for personal protection.

1) Nothing in the Constitution grants any rights--certain rights are recognized by their enumeration.
2) 2nd Amendment is what you're looking for.

Liberals never understand this. They think rights are divined from government, when in fact, they are enumerated from a higher power. They deny this for a simple reason, because to acknowledge these rights are external to government means there is something more powerful...I think I sufficiently hinted at what this might be....

 

[thanatos144]

Hillary is absolutely right - and as a gun owner and hunter - I support her 100%. The NRA was once a good outfit, and I was a member for many years until extremists hijacked it in 1977. The NRA is part of the problem - not the solution. As Joe Scarborough said: Extremism From "The Survivalist Wing" Of The NRA "Is The Greatest Danger To Gun Rights".

How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby

In gun lore it’s known as the Revolt at Cincinnati. On May 21, 1977, and into the morning of May 22, a rump caucus of gun rights radicals took over the annual meeting of the National Rifle Association.

The rebels wore orange-blaze hunting caps. They spoke on walkie-talkies as they worked the floor of the sweltering convention hall. They suspected that the NRA leaders had turned off the air-conditioning in hopes that the rabble-rousers would lose enthusiasm.

The Old Guard was caught by surprise. The NRA officers sat up front, on a dais, observing their demise. The organization, about a century old already, was thoroughly mainstream and bipartisan, focusing on hunting, conservation and marksmanship. It taught Boy Scouts how to shoot safely. But the world had changed, and everything was more political now. The rebels saw the NRA leaders as elites who lacked the heart and conviction to fight against gun-control legislation.

And these leaders were about to cut and run: They had plans to relocate the headquarters from Washington to Colorado.

More: How NRA’s true believers converted a marksmanship group into a mighty gun lobby

I call bullshit on you owning a gun.

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[jillian]

as part of a well-regulated militia....

sorry, marty. justice berger was right... so was every other justice for the almost 200 years before him. scalia is an aberration and just because you like what he says, doesn't make him correct. it makes heller law.... but not good law.

The STATES have the right to form militas, the PEOPLE keep the right to retain arms.

People in the past would consider banning a law abiding citizen from owning a firearm as ludicrous, its a modern invention.

The Constitution doesn't have any clauses where private citizens have the right to own a gun for self defense.

2nd Amendment.

That..is a modern invention.

Nonsense.

it was never intended to protect a private right of gun ownership.

It was always intended to protect a private right of gun ownership. ALWAYS.

The notion that it wasn't came only after racists and "progressives" were being inconvenienced by an armed citizenry.

justices laughed at the idea until scalia put in his two cents for the NRA gun dealers organization.

Nonsense.

your wanting it to be nonsense doesn't make it so.

but feel free to find a single supreme court case that found a private right of gun ownership prior to Heller. The dissent in that case specifically noted the change, stating: “today’s law-changing decision” that bestowed the right and created “a dramatic upheaval in the law,” See, http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

Heller is a sham. And if a liberal Court issued so baseless an opinion, the right would be shrieking about judges legislating from the bench and would be talking about a rogue court.

 

[jillian]

The STATES have the right to form militas, the PEOPLE keep the right to retain arms.

People in the past would consider banning a law abiding citizen from owning a firearm as ludicrous, its a modern invention.

The Constitution doesn't have any clauses where private citizens have the right to own a gun for self defense.

2nd Amendment.

That..is a modern invention.

Nonsense.

Feel free.

Cite the clause in the Constitution that specifically grants citizens the right to a gun for personal protection.

1) Nothing in the Constitution grants any rights--certain rights are recognized by their enumeration.
2) 2nd Amendment is what you're looking for.

Liberals never understand this. They think rights are divined from government, when in fact, they are enumerated from a higher power. They deny this for a simple reason, because to acknowledge these rights are external to government means there is something more powerful...I think I sufficiently hinted at what this might be....

^^^^^^

pretend constitutionalists really shouldn't try to guess what others "understand".

 

[KGB]

The Constitution doesn't have any clauses where private citizens have the right to own a gun for self defense.

2nd Amendment.

That..is a modern invention.

Nonsense.

Feel free.

Cite the clause in the Constitution that specifically grants citizens the right to a gun for personal protection.

1) Nothing in the Constitution grants any rights--certain rights are recognized by their enumeration.
2) 2nd Amendment is what you're looking for.

Liberals never understand this. They think rights are divined from government, when in fact, they are enumerated from a higher power. They deny this for a simple reason, because to acknowledge these rights are external to government means there is something more powerful...I think I sufficiently hinted at what this might be....

^^^^^^

pretend constitutionalists really shouldn't try to guess what others "understand".

The actions of the Left overwhelmingly state this.

 

[Sallow]

Feel free.

Cite the clause in the Constitution that specifically grants citizens the right to a gun for personal protection.

1) Nothing in the Constitution grants any rights--certain rights are recognized by their enumeration.
2) 2nd Amendment is what you're looking for.

There are plenty of rights granted by the Constitution.

And the 2nd Amendment sets up a structure for a militia.

however it is the right of the (people) to keep and bear arms

Who are required to be part of a militia and at the ready to defend the state and under the jurisdiction of Congress and the Commander in Chief.

Incorrect as the Supreme Court already stated a few years back. You are denying reality.

That was done by "literalist" Anton Scalia, who seems to fashion his own interpretation of the Constitution when it suits his agenda.

He's made a lot of unique and contradictory decisions over his career.

 

[M14 Shooter]

While discussing the NRA Clinton said, “I mean ideally what I would love to see is gun owners, responsible gun owners, hunters form a different organization and take back the Second Amendment from these extremists.”

Hillary to Gun Owners: Take Back The Second Amendment From NRA Extremists - Breitbart

Virtually all of these people understand that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home

Virtually all of these people understand that the right to keep and bear arms is among those fundamental rights necessary to our system of ordered liberty

Why would any of them listen to Hillary?

God bless Hillary.
The NRA has hijacked the idea of the NRA to promote gun sales.

This is, of course, a lie.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Justice Berger can go to hell. The PEOPLE have the right to keep and bear arms, it doesn't get simpler than that.

as part of a well-regulated militia....

sorry, marty. justice berger was right... so was every other justice for the almost 200 years before him. scalia is an aberration and just because you like what he says, doesn't make him correct. it makes heller law.... but not good law.

The STATES have the right to form militas, the PEOPLE keep the right to retain arms.

People in the past would consider banning a law abiding citizen from owning a firearm as ludicrous, its a modern invention.

The Constitution doesn't have any clauses where private citizens have the right to own a gun for self defense.

2nd Amendment.

That..is a modern invention.

Nonsense.

it was never intended to protect a private right of gun ownership.

A statement you know you cannot prove.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Feel free.
Cite the clause in the Constitution that specifically grants citizens the right to a gun for personal protection.

Silly you. believing that such a clause need exist for said right to exist.
Disagree?
Cite the clause in the constitution that grants the right to an abortion.

 

[M14 Shooter]

2nd Amendment.

Nonsense.

Feel free.

Cite the clause in the Constitution that specifically grants citizens the right to a gun for personal protection.

1) Nothing in the Constitution grants any rights--certain rights are recognized by their enumeration.
2) 2nd Amendment is what you're looking for.

There are plenty of rights granted by the Constitution.
And the 2nd Amendment sets up a structure for a militia.

however it is the right of the (people) to keep and bear arms

Who are required to be part of a militia and at the ready to defend the state and under the jurisdiction of Congress and the Commander in Chief.

Cite the part of the constitution that says this.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Don't understand what the problem is here. If anyone out there is for strong gun control laws all they need do is move to the south side of Chicago.

Or Canada.
Or North Korea.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The STATES have the right to form militas, the PEOPLE keep the right to retain arms.

People in the past would consider banning a law abiding citizen from owning a firearm as ludicrous, its a modern invention.

The Constitution doesn't have any clauses where private citizens have the right to own a gun for self defense.

2nd Amendment.

That..is a modern invention.

Nonsense.

it was never intended to protect a private right of gun ownership.

It was always intended to protect a private right of gun ownership. ALWAYS.

The notion that it wasn't came only after racists and "progressives" were being inconvenienced by an armed citizenry.

justices laughed at the idea until scalia put in his two cents for the NRA gun dealers organization.

Nonsense.

your wanting it to be nonsense doesn't make it so.
but feel free to find a single supreme court case that found a private right of gun ownership prior to Heller.

Cite a SCotUS decision that finds anything other than the private right of ownership.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The Constitution doesn't have any clauses where private citizens have the right to own a gun for self defense.

2nd Amendment.

That..is a modern invention.

Nonsense.

Feel free.

Cite the clause in the Constitution that specifically grants citizens the right to a gun for personal protection.

1) Nothing in the Constitution grants any rights--certain rights are recognized by their enumeration.
2) 2nd Amendment is what you're looking for.

Liberals never understand this. They think rights are divined from government, when in fact, they are enumerated from a higher power. They deny this for a simple reason, because to acknowledge these rights are external to government means there is something more powerful...I think I sufficiently hinted at what this might be....

pretend constitutionalists really shouldn't try to guess what others "understand".

Says the resident shoe-shine specialist.

 

[KGB]

1) Nothing in the Constitution grants any rights--certain rights are recognized by their enumeration.
2) 2nd Amendment is what you're looking for.

There are plenty of rights granted by the Constitution.

And the 2nd Amendment sets up a structure for a militia.

however it is the right of the (people) to keep and bear arms

Who are required to be part of a militia and at the ready to defend the state and under the jurisdiction of Congress and the Commander in Chief.

Incorrect as the Supreme Court already stated a few years back. You are denying reality.

That was done by "literalist" Anton Scalia, who seems to fashion his own interpretation of the Constitution when it suits his agenda.

He's made a lot of unique and contradictory decisions over his career.

It doesn't matter, it is the law of the land. That is how our system works. The Constitution says the right to keep & bear arms is an individual right because the Supreme Court affirmed it. If you want it changed, get an amendment change. This question is now settled.

 

[Sallow]

There are plenty of rights granted by the Constitution.

And the 2nd Amendment sets up a structure for a militia.

however it is the right of the (people) to keep and bear arms

Who are required to be part of a militia and at the ready to defend the state and under the jurisdiction of Congress and the Commander in Chief.

Incorrect as the Supreme Court already stated a few years back. You are denying reality.

That was done by "literalist" Anton Scalia, who seems to fashion his own interpretation of the Constitution when it suits his agenda.

He's made a lot of unique and contradictory decisions over his career.

It doesn't matter, it is the law of the land. That is how our system works. The Constitution says the right to keep & bear arms is an individual right because the Supreme Court affirmed it. If you want it changed, get an amendment change. This question is now settled.

No it most definitely is not.

Slavery and prohibition were over turned.

And as the body count sadly rises, Scalia's bloodthirsty decision will suffer the same fate.

Laws aren't meant to be national suicide.

 

[Dan Daly]

I hear that the NRA is an extremist organization rather often. Since I'm not a member, I think it might be presumed that I naturally know why.

The thing is, I don't.

I am sure someone here who believes that the NRA is an extremist organization could explain to me why that is so.

Thank you.

If you disagree with the beautiful people, you are an extremist.

 

[Dan Daly]

Hillary is absolutely right - and as a gun owner and hunter - I support her 100%. The NRA was once a good outfit, and I was a member for many years until extremists hijacked it in 1977.

Oh please. The NRA is a bunch of pussies who worry more about perpetuating their own existence by;

a. ensuring there is always a threat to our rights (which is easy, given people like you and other gun grabbers)

b. always compromising with gun grabbers without regard to the best interests of their members.

This story you tell is simply not based in fact. I've been a life member since before 1977...you are as full of crap as they can be.