Anti-gun talking points ….

Bail is a stupid idea. You are innocent until proven guilty. Why lock people up for years when they've been accused because the courts are so backlogged, because they can't afford a bail?

Your hysterics aside, I live in Chicago, I've been downtown a bunch of times, and to hear you guys tell it, it's some dystopian nightmare. The reality is my wife and I had a very nice time, people were polite. The only thing I hate is the traffic because it's so congested, because all those other people didn't hear you when you told them it was a no-man's land.



You skipped over probation.. there are more criminals on probation than parole. The reality is, you'd have to lock up a lot of people to get anyone who you classify as a "Criminal" off the streets.

You know, instead of doing the sensible thing of just not letting them get guns and maybe try to correct the problems that drove them to crime to start with. You know, like the Europeans do!

It will come as a surprise to you but criminals in jail firearms for firearms offenses represent a minor percentage of the prison population. Yours is a failed tactic as a means to press the Dem / Socialist gun grabbing agenda.

Your claim to Chicago being a lovely place to wander around is fine as far as your unsupported opinions go. Crime statistics for that Dem / Socialist paradise tell a different story.


You skipped over people on probation as not being an impact on the prison population.
 
You mean they had... A war! Gasp!

wars are kind of awful.... just ask the Native Americans.

It wasn't from the war.....they were not combat caualties or collateral damage from combat action.

They were innocent civillians, rounded up by their governments, under socialist control, marched into woods, into death camps or simply in the public square....and murdered.

15-20 million in 6 years.

Gun murder in the U.S. over our entire 247 year history?

Around 2,470,000.........247 years....
 
It will come as a surprise to you but criminals in jail firearms for firearms offenses represent a minor percentage of the prison population. Yours is a failed tactic as a means to press the Dem / Socialist gun grabbing agenda.

Yes, that's what happens when you make so many things illegal that you can't possibly lock them all up. YOu have to make a decision: do you lock up the murderer or the punk who got caught with a gun when the police did a probably illegal search? So really, the best you can do is just take the gun.

Your claim to Chicago being a lovely place to wander around is fine as far as your unsupported opinions go. Crime statistics for that Dem / Socialist paradise tell a different story.

Except I live here and you don't.. You don't know what you are talking about.

It wasn't from the war.....they were not combat caualties or collateral damage from combat action.
Sure it did. It would have never happened if there hadn't been a war and human life hadn't become chief.
 
Yes, that's what happens when you make so many things illegal that you can't possibly lock them all up. YOu have to make a decision: do you lock up the murderer or the punk who got caught with a gun when the police did a probably illegal search? So really, the best you can do is just take the gun.



Except I live here and you don't.. You don't know what you are talking about.


Sure it did. It would have never happened if there hadn't been a war and human life hadn't become chief.

Yes. Making things illegal is a, umm, bummer, dude. The Dems / Socialists have addressed that by ignoring prosecution of entire classes of crimes. In some Dem / Socialist Hell holes it's no longer illegal to steal merchandise valued up to $900. Free stuff. What an inconvenience it was that so many things were illegal. What do you do as a store owner when stealing is legal? Well, you leave.


Except no one is under any obligation to accept your. "...because I say" nonsense as true. You do have a history of false claims so your "dinner down town" claims are suspect.
 
Yes. Making things illegal is a, umm, bummer, dude. The Dems / Socialists have addressed that by ignoring prosecution of entire classes of crimes.
as well they should. The prison industrial complex is stupid.

It costs $50,000 a year to lock someone up. For what, shoplifting $100.00 worth of stuff... that's just... dumb.

Except no one is under any obligation to accept your. "...because I say" nonsense as true. You do have a history of false claims so your "dinner down town" claims are suspect.
Except that you just pretend someting I say isn't true when you can't argue against it. For instance, you doubted my time in the military. I presented pictures of my self in uniform from 35 years ago. You didn't believe that, either.

So If I post a picture of myself with my wife downtown, will you promise to go away and not come back?
 
as well they should. The prison industrial complex is stupid.

It costs $50,000 a year to lock someone up. For what, shoplifting $100.00 worth of stuff... that's just... dumb.


Except that you just pretend someting I say isn't true when you can't argue against it. For instance, you doubted my time in the military. I presented pictures of my self in uniform from 35 years ago. You didn't believe that, either.

So If I post a picture of myself with my wife downtown, will you promise to go away and not come back?

Oh. The "Prison Industrial Complex''. Is that the slogan you scream in fist-shaking chants at your SJW rallies?

Gee. That insignificant $100,000 worth of stolen merchandise... I mean, it's hard to believe that any merchant should be concerned about theft. Don't all businesses operate on a negative profit margin?

Why is anyone expected to uncritically accept your specious claims? You make the most outrageous, bizarre and truly nonsensical claims on a daily basis. When you insist that businesses are under some obligation to accept thievery of their products as an entitlement for crooks because of policies promoted by Dem / Socialist losers, you shouldn't expect any measure of credibility.

So, if you copy and paste a photo you stole from the web and represent it to be something it's not, will that be just another instance of your dishonesty?
 
Gee. That insignificant $100,000 worth of stolen merchandise... I mean, it's hard to believe that any merchant should be concerned about theft. Don't all businesses operate on a negative profit margin?

Actually, most companies work an assumption they will have a certain level of inventory shrink.

Why is anyone expected to uncritically accept your specious claims? You make the most outrageous, bizarre and truly nonsensical claims on a daily basis.

I live in Chicago is a specious claim? Really?

So, if you copy and paste a photo you

I'll prove once again you have no integrity, we've already established that.

Oh. The "Prison Industrial Complex''. Is that the slogan you scream in fist-shaking chants at your SJW rallies?

No, it's an actual description... I could explain it to you, but you probably still wouldn't understand.

That when you make prison a profit business, you will throw people into prison for reasons that aren't good, and damage your society in the long run. We've gone from half a million people in prison in 1980 to 2 million today. It costs the taxpayers a fortune, and actually damages the workforce by saddling them with red flags in their histories.
 
Actually, most companies work an assumption they will have a certain level of inventory shrink.



I live in Chicago is a specious claim? Really?



I'll prove once again you have no integrity, we've already established that.



No, it's an actual description... I could explain it to you, but you probably still wouldn't understand.

That when you make prison a profit business, you will throw people into prison for reasons that aren't good, and damage your society in the long run. We've gone from half a million people in prison in 1980 to 2 million today. It costs the taxpayers a fortune, and actually damages the workforce by saddling them with red flags in their histories.

“Inventory shrink”? That’s quite a retreat from your earlier pontificating about theft being a part of business any company should expect.

As to whether you live in Chicago or not, it’s unimportant to me. You are making claims you can’t support and are irrelevant to anyone but you. So who, really, has no integrity?

While you want to insist that prisons are very damaging in that they hurt the feelings of those confined to prison, the Dem / Socialist / SJW tactic of making criminals their heroes has been a disaster for the cities they have destroyed.
 
“Inventory shrink”? That’s quite a retreat from your earlier pontificating about theft being a part of business any company should expect.

No, that's just the term most businesses use.

As to whether you live in Chicago or not, it’s unimportant to me. You are making claims you can’t support and are irrelevant to anyone but you. So who, really, has no integrity?
Nice retreat... I don't blame you, you always retreat when you get caught in your lies.

While you want to insist that prisons are very damaging in that they hurt the feelings of those confined to prison, the Dem / Socialist / SJW tactic of making criminals their heroes has been a disaster for the cities they have destroyed.

"Destroyed"? YOu see, this kind of hyperbole is kind of silly. I checked. Chicago hasn't been "Destroyed". It's still there. All the museums and office buildings and neighborhoods.

The problem with the Prison-Industrial Complex is that some people are getting rich, and the rest of us are damaged in terms of destroyed families and people who are permanently branded for a mistake made in youth.
 
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tl; dr; dc.

We have 30K gun deaths a year. No other advanced society has anywhere near as many.

Clearly they are doing something right and we are doing something wrong.

With no guns, clan 13, criminals and dope fiends could rape, pillage and kill without any fear. We would have hundreds of thousands of deaths if people could not defend themselves. America is a very violent place. And it will only get worse...before it gets even worse.

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Too bad the person in the house only shot the window and not the criminals. Can you imagine the terror for the unarmed rural family when a car full of thugs drives down their driveway at 3 in the morning...and the Sherriff is a 45-minute drive away?

Here is the score...

2020...Summer of Love / BLM / Antifa
2021...Screw revolvers...I need a Glock.
2022...Screw Glocks...I need an AR.
2023...Screw AR's...I need belt-fed.
2024...Screw belt-fed...I need an army.

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With no guns, clan 13, criminals and dope fiends could rape, pillage and kill without any fear. We would have hundreds of thousands of deaths if people could not defend themselves. America is a very violent place. And it will only get worse...before it gets even worse.

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Too bad the person in the house only shot the window and not the criminals. Can you imagine the terror for the unarmed rural family when a car full of thugs drives down their driveway at 3 in the morning...and the Sherriff is a 45-minute drive away?

Here is the score...

2020...Summer of Love / BLM / Antifa
2021...Screw revolvers...I need a Glock.
2022...Screw Glocks...I need an AR.
2023...Screw AR's...I need belt-fed.
2024...Screw belt-fed...I need an army.
Yet amazingly the criminals in other nations aren’t murdering 100,00+ a year. And they don’t have guns in their houses.
 
With no guns, clan 13, criminals and dope fiends could rape, pillage and kill without any fear. We would have hundreds of thousands of deaths if people could not defend themselves. America is a very violent place. And it will only get worse...before it gets even worse.
Except the Europeans and Japanese ban or limit gun ownership, and... they don't have hundreds of thousands of deaths.

In fact, their murder numbers are usually in the lower three digits. Ours are up there in the five-digit numbers.
 
No, that's just the term most businesses use.


Nice retreat... I don't blame you, you always retreat when you get caught in your lies.



"Destroyed"? YOu see, this kind of hyperbole is kind of silly. I checked. Chicago hasn't been "Destroyed". It's still there. All the museums and office buildings and neighborhoods.

The problem with the Prison-Industrial Complex is that some people are getting rich, and the rest of us are damaged in terms of destroyed families and people who are permanently branded for a mistake made in youth.
You will excuse me if I don't accept business advise from someone who is convinced that criminals have an entitlement to steal and business owners are under dome obligation to accept that.

I don't lie about photos I copy and paste from the web. I don't post personal photos. Simple. I'm also under no obligation to accept your specious claims that allged photos you post and represent as something impossible for me to verify are what you claim they are.


It seems the people actually living in the Dem / Socialist Hell hole of Portland have a view different than yours.

This might be a good time to post photos of your night out, dining in the City to show the lovely time you had.


Portland voters SLAM homelessness as 'out-of-control disaster' and back forced drug treatment and street tent bans, in stunning rebuke to city's officials

The problem with your silly Prison Industrial Complex slogan is that mere slogans from SJW's don't actually solve problems.
 
15+ Million Illegals & Visa Overstayers & Enemy Combatants swarm in under Xiden then they want to Disarm Law Abiding Americans 😆🤣😝
 
Hold on, man. For years before 10-9, you gun wankers have been showing us pictures of Israeli babes walking around with M-16's and wishing you could do that in this country.

Until the day the people they were carrying around guns to protect themselves from actually attacked, and you whine, "WHY DIDN"T THEY HAVE GUNS?"


You lying scumbag....the leftists in Israel took guns away from Israeli citizens.....that is a fact. Then they made it almost impossible for Israelis to even get a permit to own a gun.....

Your policies allowed those people to be slaughtered.
 
Except the Europeans and Japanese ban or limit gun ownership, and... they don't have hundreds of thousands of deaths.

In fact, their murder numbers are usually in the lower three digits. Ours are up there in the five-digit numbers.

The Europeans murdered 15-20 million citizens....in 6 years.

The Japanese murdered 3 million.........

Gun murder over the entire 247 year history of the U.S.....?

Around 2,470,000, and the vast majority of those murder victims were not innocent civilians rounded up and murdered in their millions, they were criminals murdered by other criminals...
 
You lying scumbag....the leftists in Israel took guns away from Israeli citizens.....that is a fact. Then they made it almost impossible for Israelis to even get a permit to own a gun.....

Your policies allowed those people to be slaughtered.
Yep Israel had draconian Firearms Restrictions that made California & New York look like 2A/ RTKBA Sanctuary States
 

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