Hey, the new democrat Assault weapon ban makes your semi auto pistol illegal......

[2aguy]

Yep.....they will make your semi auto pistol, your Glock, Sig, Beretta, Smith and Wesson pistol.....illegal........they have upped their game...and you thought they only wanted to ban all rifles....

Senate Democrats introduce new ban on 'assault weapons'

Moving past singling out specific firearms, it would also ban semi-auto handguns and rifles with a detachable magazine and only one “military characteristics” such as a pistol grip, telescoping or folding stock, or threaded barrel.

how is "assault weapon" defined?

no doubt guns.com is a reliable source.

The made up term of "assault weapon" is a military, select fire weapon. The AR-15 and other semi auto rifles are not select fire weapons. They are civilian rifles that are also used by the police.

which addresses how we keep weapons away from people who shouldn't have them, how?

Kill violent criminals. There's no reason to hoard trash.

Lock up the crazies when detected. That was the practice until about 30 years ago.

why should civilians have military weapons?

Why should law-abiding, rational citizens not? Employ logic, not perception or third-party opinion..

the death penalty is not an individual deterrant to crime.
the death penalty results in people who are not guilty being killed. (see Innocence Project stats)
and because there is no reason to have military weapons and it is not what the 2nd amendment guarantees... even the wingiest judge (scalia) said you are subject to reasonable regulation.

Actually, military weapons are exactly what the 2nd Amendment guarantees......and according to Heller...

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

We do not interpret constitutional rights that way. Just as the First Amendment protects modern forms of communications, e.g., Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U. S. 844, 849 (1997), and the Fourth Amendment applies to modern forms of search, e.g., Kyllo v. United States, 533 U. S. 27, 35–36 (2001), the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding.

 

[2aguy]

Yep.....they will make your semi auto pistol, your Glock, Sig, Beretta, Smith and Wesson pistol.....illegal........they have upped their game...and you thought they only wanted to ban all rifles....

Senate Democrats introduce new ban on 'assault weapons'

Moving past singling out specific firearms, it would also ban semi-auto handguns and rifles with a detachable magazine and only one “military characteristics” such as a pistol grip, telescoping or folding stock, or threaded barrel.

how is "assault weapon" defined?

no doubt guns.com is a reliable source.

The made up term of "assault weapon" is a military, select fire weapon. The AR-15 and other semi auto rifles are not select fire weapons. They are civilian rifles that are also used by the police.

which addresses how we keep weapons away from people who shouldn't have them, how?

Kill violent criminals. There's no reason to hoard trash.

Lock up the crazies when detected. That was the practice until about 30 years ago.

why should civilians have military weapons?

Why should law-abiding, rational citizens not? Employ logic, not perception or third-party opinion..

the death penalty is not an individual deterrant to crime.
the death penalty results in people who are not guilty being killed. (see Innocence Project stats)
and because there is no reason to have military weapons and it is not what the 2nd amendment guarantees... even the wingiest judge (scalia) said you are subject to reasonable regulation.

Yes....and he specifically mentioned felons not being able to have guns and the dangerously mentally ill...other than that he doesn't really care who carries them....

 

[2aguy]

OK so when I told you that the UK counts murders differently than the US you laugh about it now you think those differences matter.

Because they don't. One dead body. One murder.

The Brits have a lot less of those.

And their lower murder rate has nothing to do with their gun control laws...since their gun crime rate is up 42% in London alone after going up 89% 10 years after the ban........their criminals do not murder their victims as often as our social welfare cases over here....

 

[2aguy]

OK so when I told you that the UK counts murders differently than the US you laugh about it now you think those differences matter.

Because they don't. One dead body. One murder.

The Brits have a lot less of those.

They only count a murder as murder when there has been a conviction.

And yes I have given you the link to the document from the house of commons before.

But here it is again anyway

Since 1967, homicide figures for England and Wales have been adjusted to exclude any cases which do not result in conviction

I guess you haven't really been murdered until they convict the killer......that gives you more time to be with the family...

 

[2aguy]

British crime levels are worse....London is now more dangerous than New York, their gun crime keeps going up, and their violent crime is through the roof....you can lie all you want, but their police policies, their social welfare system and their immigration policies are creating violence they can no longer contain...

Correct me if I'm wrong -- because I'm guessing. But didn't the crime rate in the UK suddenly begin the rise to its current level at the same time as these violent Muslim bastards started pouring in?

What is even more disturbing than the crime rate, and it's obvious cause, is the fact that the British government, in spite of its wisely decided detachment from the EU, does absolutely nothing to effectively lay down the Law to these arrogant, belligerent, ignorant, uncivilized Muslim pricks who behave like they have a license to do as they please to whomever they please.

The fact that British leadership doesn't arm all its police with guns and batons and tell them to get out there and enforce the Law is major cause for concern. Why isn't that being done? There appears to be some sort of unspoken contract between high level European government officials and this invading army of young Muslim men. This has me very worried because the European nations are important allies. Not only can we not count on them as it is, it won't be long before their armed forces will consist substantially of Muslims.

The way things are shaping up it won't be long before we have hostile Muslims in front of us and behind us -- which I believe is exactly what is being planned at some very high levels. What I can't understand is why.

Notice the victim's name in this shooting in Britain...

Pictured: man shot dead while sitting in his car in 'execution'

 

[jon_berzerk]

Yep.....they will make your semi auto pistol, your Glock, Sig, Beretta, Smith and Wesson pistol.....illegal........they have upped their game...and you thought they only wanted to ban all rifles....

Senate Democrats introduce new ban on 'assault weapons'

Moving past singling out specific firearms, it would also ban semi-auto handguns and rifles with a detachable magazine and only one “military characteristics” such as a pistol grip, telescoping or folding stock, or threaded barrel.

how is "assault weapon" defined?

no doubt guns.com is a reliable source.

The made up term of "assault weapon" is a military, select fire weapon. The AR-15 and other semi auto rifles are not select fire weapons. They are civilian rifles that are also used by the police.

which addresses how we keep weapons away from people who shouldn't have them, how?

why should civilians have military weapons?

Generally speaking civilians don't have military weapons.....the most popular rifle in the united States is the AR-15 civilian rifle.....over 13 million in private hands, it is not a military weapon, and has never been used in a war.

Collectors tend to have the only fully automatic military weapons in the United States. Civilians should have military weapons because an armed society doesn't experience government mass murder, genocide or ethnic cleansing.......

Collectors tend to have the only fully automatic military weapons in the United States

yes and those in trusts

 

[JoeB131]

They only count a murder as murder when there has been a conviction.

Still bullshit.

 

[JoeB131]

And their lower murder rate has nothing to do with their gun control laws...since their gun crime rate is up 42% in London alone after going up 89% 10 years after the ban........their criminals do not murder their victims as often as our social welfare cases over here....

And look, Dick Tiny brought the racism again!

It's not the easy access to guns that is the problem, it's the darkies!!!

 

[Skull Pilot]

They only count a murder as murder when there has been a conviction.

Still bullshit.

Well you are an expert when it comes to bullshit being full of it and all

 

[BlackSand]

Hey.....remember when the anti gunners told us they didn't care if we had 10 round magazines.......?

Likewise, detachable magazines capable of holding 10 or more rounds would be prohibited.

If you hold it by the barrel, most firearms make a decent club ... So the anti-gunners agree you should be able to use an unloaded firearm for self defense.

.

 

[RealDave]

Whaaaa whaaaaaaa whaaaaaa

Yes...that is exactly the sound the Mexican citizens make as the drug cartels and their police and military allies are murdering their families and putting their bodies in incinerators...just south of our border...right now. Mexico has one gun store, run by the military and the only caliber gun a normal person, with huge connections to the government, can get, is a .22. Meanwhile, the drug cartel killers, with fully automatic military rifles from Europe and China are murdering those people in the 10s of thousands every year......thanks to people like you.....

So now I control guns in Mexico.

Good to know.

You assholes allow straw gun buyers to walk into a store in AZ & buy 40 - AR-15 rifles & tote them to the border.

So don't sit there & blame anyone else but your dear terrorist group, the NRA.

You assholes allow straw gun buyers to walk into a store in AZ & buy 40 - AR-15 rifles & tote them to the border.

nope sorry

that was your pal obama that did that

his fucked up plan is still killing people to this day

Yet another dumbass who thinks Obama sets the gun laws.

He appoints the judges dip shit......

So does the NRA.

Quit blaming Obama for passing gun laws.

Its been 25 years of listening to you assholes run screaming " OMG OMG They're taking our guns OMG OMG OMG." But it had never happened. We can't get reasonable legislation passed because of the NRA & their feeble minded dumbasses like you.

Instead children get slaughtered because you have to own scary looking guns for fun. Just go fuck yourself.

Blood is on your hands.

 

[RealDave]

Lying fuck. Obama did not control the gun laws. The NRA does.

If this were true would the 30-round magazine ban have been approved?

In 1

 

[RealDave]

ore readonable people

Whaaaa whaaaaaaa whaaaaaa

Yes...that is exactly the sound the Mexican citizens make as the drug cartels and their police and military allies are murdering their families and putting their bodies in incinerators...just south of our border...right now. Mexico has one gun store, run by the military and the only caliber gun a normal person, with huge connections to the government, can get, is a .22. Meanwhile, the drug cartel killers, with fully automatic military rifles from Europe and China are murdering those people in the 10s of thousands every year......thanks to people like you.....

So now I control guns in Mexico.

Good to know.

You assholes allow straw gun buyers to walk into a store in AZ & buy 40 - AR-15 rifles & tote them to the border.

So don't sit there & blame anyone else but your dear terrorist group, the NRA.

You assholes allow straw gun buyers to walk into a store in AZ & buy 40 - AR-15 rifles & tote them to the border.

nope sorry

that was your pal obama that did that

his fucked up plan is still killing people to this day

Yet another dumbass who thinks Obama sets the gun laws.

bullshit fuck head

it was obama and his admin that ran fast n furious

which handed over more then 2200 firearms to felons

which are still killing people today

I see you buttheads are still lying about Fast & Furious.

The plan was not devised or approved by Obama & was an effort by local ATF agents. It was a part of a program started in 2006.

I believe 1700 were not recovered.

It is common practice when investigation smuggling rings to allow some product to walk so ot can be traced. The plan was not executed well & hence many of the guns were lost.

The idea you claim that the Mexican cartels would not be armed without F & F is ridiculous.

The idea that you are sofa king stupid to equate this to Obama passing gun laws is just plain dumb.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Yes...that is exactly the sound the Mexican citizens make as the drug cartels and their police and military allies are murdering their families and putting their bodies in incinerators...just south of our border...right now. Mexico has one gun store, run by the military and the only caliber gun a normal person, with huge connections to the government, can get, is a .22. Meanwhile, the drug cartel killers, with fully automatic military rifles from Europe and China are murdering those people in the 10s of thousands every year......thanks to people like you.....

So now I control guns in Mexico.

Good to know.

You assholes allow straw gun buyers to walk into a store in AZ & buy 40 - AR-15 rifles & tote them to the border.

So don't sit there & blame anyone else but your dear terrorist group, the NRA.

You assholes allow straw gun buyers to walk into a store in AZ & buy 40 - AR-15 rifles & tote them to the border.

nope sorry

that was your pal obama that did that

his fucked up plan is still killing people to this day

Yet another dumbass who thinks Obama sets the gun laws.

He appoints the judges dip shit......

So does the NRA.

Quit blaming Obama for passing gun laws.

Its been 25 years of listening to you assholes run screaming " OMG OMG They're taking our guns OMG OMG OMG." But it had never happened. We can't get reasonable legislation passed because of the NRA & their feeble minded dumbasses like you.

Instead children get slaughtered because you have to own scary looking guns for fun. Just go fuck yourself.

Blood is on your hands.

So does the NRA.

liar the NRA does not write laws nor appoint judges

 

[jon_berzerk]

ore readonable people

Yes...that is exactly the sound the Mexican citizens make as the drug cartels and their police and military allies are murdering their families and putting their bodies in incinerators...just south of our border...right now. Mexico has one gun store, run by the military and the only caliber gun a normal person, with huge connections to the government, can get, is a .22. Meanwhile, the drug cartel killers, with fully automatic military rifles from Europe and China are murdering those people in the 10s of thousands every year......thanks to people like you.....

So now I control guns in Mexico.

Good to know.

You assholes allow straw gun buyers to walk into a store in AZ & buy 40 - AR-15 rifles & tote them to the border.

So don't sit there & blame anyone else but your dear terrorist group, the NRA.

You assholes allow straw gun buyers to walk into a store in AZ & buy 40 - AR-15 rifles & tote them to the border.

nope sorry

that was your pal obama that did that

his fucked up plan is still killing people to this day

Yet another dumbass who thinks Obama sets the gun laws.

bullshit fuck head

it was obama and his admin that ran fast n furious

which handed over more then 2200 firearms to felons

which are still killing people today

I see you buttheads are still lying about Fast & Furious.

The plan was not devised or approved by Obama & was an effort by local ATF agents. It was a part of a program started in 2006.

I believe 1700 were not recovered.

It is common practice when investigation smuggling rings to allow some product to walk so ot can be traced. The plan was not executed well & hence many of the guns were lost.

The idea you claim that the Mexican cartels would not be armed without F & F is ridiculous.

The idea that you are sofa king stupid to equate this to Obama passing gun laws is just plain dumb.

you are the liar

the bush admin tried the program and it proved to be a failure

obama admin knowing set up F n F which released over 2200 firearms to felons

which are still killing people today

at least try and be honest

Judge rules against Obama on 'Fast and Furious'

 

[jon_berzerk]

For anyone who, thanks to the Obama administration’s years of stonewalling, has forgotten about Fast and Furious, here’s the short version. In 2010, a U.S. Customs and Border Patrol Agent was killed while on patrol near the Mexican border. The only two firearms found at the scene were semi-automatic rifles the Obama-Holder Justice Department allowed to “walk” as part of Fast and Furious, a firearms trafficking operation. That operation allowed approximately 2,000 firearms to flow illegally into the hands of Mexican cartel associates.

Documents confirm Eric Holder's role in Fast and Furious cover-up

 

[MrShangles]

Little by little.

The ultimate objective is for you to keep only one single-shot, bolt-action, .22 rifle, chambered for Short, and to bear it only to federally supervised target ranges in a locked case with the bolt removed. You will be restricted to ammunition purchased at the range and all must be expended there or surrendered before leaving.

As repressive as all of that seems it does not violate the Second Amendment, which entitles us to keep and bear firearms. Each and every one of these bans and restrictions moves us closer to this rather comical but very real potential. Because there are many leftist politicians who would not hesitate to impose those very conditions on us. The likes of Charles Schumer is but one example. There are many more.

The ultimate objective is no guns therefore no gun deaths.

Have they figured out how to get the criminals guns yet, shouldn’t that be first step


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[Skull Pilot]

Yes...that is exactly the sound the Mexican citizens make as the drug cartels and their police and military allies are murdering their families and putting their bodies in incinerators...just south of our border...right now. Mexico has one gun store, run by the military and the only caliber gun a normal person, with huge connections to the government, can get, is a .22. Meanwhile, the drug cartel killers, with fully automatic military rifles from Europe and China are murdering those people in the 10s of thousands every year......thanks to people like you.....

So now I control guns in Mexico.

Good to know.

You assholes allow straw gun buyers to walk into a store in AZ & buy 40 - AR-15 rifles & tote them to the border.

So don't sit there & blame anyone else but your dear terrorist group, the NRA.

You assholes allow straw gun buyers to walk into a store in AZ & buy 40 - AR-15 rifles & tote them to the border.

nope sorry

that was your pal obama that did that

his fucked up plan is still killing people to this day

Yet another dumbass who thinks Obama sets the gun laws.

He appoints the judges dip shit......

So does the NRA.

Quit blaming Obama for passing gun laws.

Its been 25 years of listening to you assholes run screaming " OMG OMG They're taking our guns OMG OMG OMG." But it had never happened. We can't get reasonable legislation passed because of the NRA & their feeble minded dumbasses like you.

Instead children get slaughtered because you have to own scary looking guns for fun. Just go fuck yourself.

Blood is on your hands.

What judges have been appointed by the NRA?

And you still can't seem to understand the concept that the only hands with blood on them are the hands of the killer.

That's a concept any fifth grader can grasp , Corky

 

[RealDave]

So now I control guns in Mexico.

Good to know.

You assholes allow straw gun buyers to walk into a store in AZ & buy 40 - AR-15 rifles & tote them to the border.

So don't sit there & blame anyone else but your dear terrorist group, the NRA.

You assholes allow straw gun buyers to walk into a store in AZ & buy 40 - AR-15 rifles & tote them to the border.

nope sorry

that was your pal obama that did that

his fucked up plan is still killing people to this day

Yet another dumbass who thinks Obama sets the gun laws.

He appoints the judges dip shit......

So does the NRA.

Quit blaming Obama for passing gun laws.

Its been 25 years of listening to you assholes run screaming " OMG OMG They're taking our guns OMG OMG OMG." But it had never happened. We can't get reasonable legislation passed because of the NRA & their feeble minded dumbasses like you.

Instead children get slaughtered because you have to own scary looking guns for fun. Just go fuck yourself.

Blood is on your hands.

What judges have been appointed by the NRA?

And you still can't seem to understand the concept that the only hands with blood on them are the hands of the killer.

That's a concept any fifth grader can grasp , Corky

The judges appointed by the ones funded by the NRA.

Blood is on your hands. Childsren's blood. That killer had the opportunity to use a killing machine weapon thanks to the support you give to those who did not ban them.

 

[Skull Pilot]

You assholes allow straw gun buyers to walk into a store in AZ & buy 40 - AR-15 rifles & tote them to the border.

nope sorry

that was your pal obama that did that

his fucked up plan is still killing people to this day

Yet another dumbass who thinks Obama sets the gun laws.

He appoints the judges dip shit......

So does the NRA.

Quit blaming Obama for passing gun laws.

Its been 25 years of listening to you assholes run screaming " OMG OMG They're taking our guns OMG OMG OMG." But it had never happened. We can't get reasonable legislation passed because of the NRA & their feeble minded dumbasses like you.

Instead children get slaughtered because you have to own scary looking guns for fun. Just go fuck yourself.

Blood is on your hands.

What judges have been appointed by the NRA?

And you still can't seem to understand the concept that the only hands with blood on them are the hands of the killer.

That's a concept any fifth grader can grasp , Corky

The judges appointed by the ones funded by the NRA.

Blood is on your hands. Childsren's blood. That killer had the opportunity to use a killing machine weapon thanks to the support you give to those who did not ban them.

My hands are squeaky clean. And I've told you quite a few times already that I am not and never have been a member of the NRA. You really ought to get a CAT scan or something you might have a tumor that's giving you memory issues

Now tell me are you responsible for every rape committed by another man because you also happen to have a penis?